TOYOTA PRIUS [merged threads]

[tidus1203]

Yeah at a million is might become a hit kasi Corolla territory na yun pero that's wishful thinking unless the government totally eliminates taxes which I doubt!

[scharnhorst]

Pshh.... 2 million pesos?

I would rather buy an suv + a car that to buy a prius

I doubt it if they could lower it up to a million.....but if they can......then good for us, who's just a middle-class person.

Sa Manila Bulletin, it's 2.25 million.

sheesh. I'd rather get a focus TDCi and spend the rest on diesel

[ghosthunter]

Sa Manila Bulletin, it's 2.25 million.

You can buy TWO corollas and have them both converted to Auto-LPG. And you will still have money left over to buy fuel.

OR

You can buy ONE Corolla (heck! Even buy an entry level CAMRY) and use the remaining money to buy gasoline for YEARS!

[Burai]

step aside yung issue ng cost ng prius, if they maintain to do d4ds edi wala namang improvement sa technology, diba?

pero langya sa price niyan baka nagka 3 revai na ko ahahaha lagpas 5 pa mapapaupo (exclude safety and stuffs) :bwahaha:

kopyahin na lang yung kaha ng prius tapos ilagay sa mga naka diesel na kotse para kunyari you're driving a green one too o diba? :evil:

di ko nabasa yung 2m na pricetag, 1m lang nabasa ko sa post ni number001, ano ba talaga tamang estimate na price?

[beereo]

Sa Manila Bulletin, it's 2.25 million.

if i have 2m right now, i'll just add some more cash and then buy a nissan patrol or a 3-series BMW.

it's futile if the introductory price is very exorbitant. those who can afford to buy high-end cars can also afford to buy enough gasoline amid the soaring prices of fuel. the Prius would be a good buy if the price will be lowered to 1m so that those belonging to the middle-class segment of our society will be able to acquire one.

[wsa 400]

The price in the Philippines is outrageous!!! How can the government promote more green and fuel efficient cars

[scharnhorst]

from yesterday's article:

Toyota Motor Philippines Corp. first vice-president for vehicle sales Raymond Rodriguez said a total of 25 units of 1.8 liter third generation Prius will be made available initially on June 19 at P2.250 (million) per unit.

“Definitely prices can be lowered with incentives,” Rodriguez said noting that the proposed incentives for environment-friendly and hybrid vehicles are still being deliberated in Congress.

Aside from import duty, imported completely built-up vehicles are slapped with 30 percent import duty, excise tax based on the value of the unit, value added tax and VAT.

hmmm. Apparently it's the third generation.

if they remove that 30%... it boils down to about 1.5 million. Not bad if it's the only one that gets the tax exemption.

dadating kaya insight dito?

[roberto_minosa]

The price in the Philippines is outrageous!!! How can the government promote more green and fuel efficient cars

Wow, WTH. Wala pang $30,000 (PhP1.5M) ang Prius sa US ah. Yoko na dito sa 'Pinas. Crappy PhDM, lahat ng kotse dito mahal.

[renzo_d10]

At 2.250 million you could buy yourself an accord!

And save the remaining 250k for your gas.

If the prius will be priced at 1.3m, then there's a probability that it would be seen on streets more often. But priced at 2.250? The heck? It's like looking for a toyota lc200 and a benz 7-series.

[ianmitsulancer]

ang mahal naman....

--OT--
hmmm... i heard that Toyota Thailand recently introduced the Camry Hybrid in Bangkok! may it could be cheaper if we get the Hybrid model there since we have AFTA perks...

[niky]

As far as I remember, the number being batted around was 1.8m... 1.5 for tax exemption... but that was three years ago.

A 30% discount for 2.25m is 1.575m.

For that much money, you can get a top-of-the-line 2 liter compact, and buy enough gasoline to run it for over 100,000 kilometers. (typically 5 years of use)

Or... buy a Ford Focus TDCi and have enough gas to run it for over 170,000 kilometers. (typically 8 years of use)

OR... buy that top-of-the-line compact, buy an LPG kit for 30,000 pesos and buy enough LPG to run it for about 150,000 - 170,000 kilometers.

OR... buy a Honda City, and buy enough gasoline to run it... forever... (250,000+++ or nearly 500,000 kms on LPG)...

*(disclaimer... this is all considering mileage is in moderate mixed city/highway traffic... of course, you'll have to consider that every 100,000 kilometers, the Prius will still use about 200,000 pesos worth of gasoline... it's not an electric car, y'know...)

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Of course, for the government to give a tax break to a CBU vehicle that contributes nothing to local industry and doesn't decrease our dependence on foreign oil significantly (since only relatively wealthy people can afford it) is kind of silly. So add back that 700,000 or so pesos, and you'll have enough money to drive your "gas-guzzling" Civic till it falls apart...

[JJCarEnthusiast]

somebody going to ford?

[ghosthunter]

if i have 2m right now, i'll just add some more cash and then buy a nissan patrol or a 3-series BMW.

it's futile if the introductory price is very exorbitant. those who can afford to buy high-end cars can also afford to buy enough gasoline amid the soaring prices of fuel. the Prius would be a good buy if the price will be lowered to 1m so that those belonging to the middle-class segment of our society will be able to acquire one.

It's not the point. The supposed selling point of the Prius is to save fuel and to save money. But since the car costs so much, it would more economical to buy a regular Corolla.

Even the rich prefer to save on the cost of fuel, hence some high end luxury sedans have been converted to use Auto-LPG.

[ghosthunter]

somebody going to ford?

Niky and the guys at bigbigcars.com did a back-to-back comparo with the Focus diesel vs the Prius in terms of fuel costs. They drove both cars in Metro Manila traffic for a day and calculated the fuel burned.

[niky]

Niky and the guys at bigbigcars.com did a back-to-back comparo with the Focus diesel vs the Prius in terms of fuel costs. They drove both cars in Metro Manila traffic for a day and calculated the fuel burned.

Back then, we assumed the cost of the Prius at 1.8. The difference in price back then would buy nearly 500,000 kilometers worth of diesel.

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The rich would like to save fuel, too... and the Prius is probably a good choice versus a bare-bones 3-series or a Mercedes C-Class... it's not as solid as either car, but the space is all right, it's soft-riding, very quiet and unobjectionable as a commuting car.

But... the middle class? If you really want to save fuel, you have so many options available... small diesels, minicars... LPG... dealership-installed LPG... motorcycles... the Prius is more a luxury than anything else... the luxury of not having to go to the gas station as often... but for those buying luxury cars, it is hamstrung by the fact that it wears a "Toyota" badge and not a "Lexus" badge.

Coincidentally... there will be a Lexus version of the Prius. Don't know how much it'll cost when it gets here, though.

[Burai]

sana naman (kahit wala) may "utak" at "puso" government natin para suportahan move ng toyota to introduce green cars at bawasan ng napagkalaki ang tax para sa mga hybrids.
sell it at 700k+ then dadami na makakatulong sa nature natin






calling sir JJ, kopyahin na natin kaha then ilipat sa usapang replica cars ahahaha joke :lol:

[renzo_d10]

sana naman (kahit wala) may "utak" at "puso" government natin para suportahan move ng toyota to introduce green cars at bawasan ng napagkalaki ang tax para sa mga hybrids.
sell it at 700k+ then dadami na makakatulong sa nature natin






calling sir JJ, kopyahin na natin kaha then ilipat sa usapang replica cars ahahaha joke :lol:

700k? It wont happen. Promise.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

sana naman (kahit wala) may "utak" at "puso" government natin para suportahan move ng toyota to introduce green cars at bawasan ng napagkalaki ang tax para sa mga hybrids.
sell it at 700k+ then dadami na makakatulong sa nature natin






calling sir JJ, kopyahin na natin kaha then ilipat sa usapang replica cars ahahaha joke :lol:

fiberglass ftw!! lightweight = light fuel consumption (well if you don't step heavily on the gas)

[Horsepower]

Burai, actually, whether Prius is environment friendly or not is highly debatable.

[tidus1203]

Well if you look at the BIG PICTURE it might not be as environmentally friendly as the automakers want you to believe. I mean how many CO2 do they release just to build a hybrid vehicle with 2 engines versus a regular single internal combustion engine car?