TOYOTA PRIUS [merged threads]

[jpdm]

on second thought, i will junk both the prius and the hummer because...........

.............I have no money to buy them.........They are very expensive to acquire and to maintain.....

.............norkis na lang.....

[chuaed]

Comments about the Toyota Prius by Jeremy Clarkson

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOvp69lnZbA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOvp69lnZbA[/ame]

[chuaed]

Jeremy Clarkson comment on Toyota Prius take 2

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdBVwwRgThU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdBVwwRgThU[/ame]

[ghosthunter]

Hydrogen Turbo Charged Prius test drive:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nL4iuE2Fqo"]YouTube - Test Driving a Hydrogen-Powered Turbo Prius[/ame]

[ogpro]

http://business.inquirer.net/money/b...ticle_id=90756

Toyota to sell hybrids in RP

Inquirer
Last updated 06:46am (Mla time) 09/26/2007
TUGUEGARAO CITY--Environment-friendly vehicles will soon be traveling on Philippine roads.
Yukio Nishikawa, managing officer of Toyota Motor Corp. based in Japan, said two Prius electric-gas hybrid cars were recently brought to the Philippines for testing in local road and traffic conditions prior to their being sold in the country.
He said Toyota has been mass producing Prius electric-gas hybrid cars and developing fuel cell vehicles for the past years but these are not yet commercially available in the Philippines.
Nishikawa was in Cagayan recently to launch the company's 170-million yen reforestation project in Peñablanca town.
Aside from being fuel efficient, hybrid cars are built with advanced technology, he said.
Company records showed Prius sold 54,000 units in 2004 and 108,000 units in 2005 worldwide, mostly in Japan.
Villamor Visaya Jr., Inquirer Northern Luzon

[leopaul]

Here's the first look of the new Prius that will soon be displayed at this year's Detroit Motor Show in January 11.




Is it a facelift, or a new generation? Or possibly be followed up by another hybrid car which is the Lexus HS?

[mogmog]

Very Nice!

[ghosthunter]

In the time of cheap gas prices, would an obviously expensive hybrid car have a fraction of the success as it's previous model. This is compared to other "normal" gas fueled cars on the market of the same size & capacity.

[uls]

Hybrid car sales plummeted in November
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/200...9381230922441/

DETROIT, Jan. 2 (UPI) -- U.S. hybrid car sales plummeted in November, falling faster than sales of conventional, gasoline-powered cars, an industry research group said.

Just as automakers were scrambling to turn their production over to smaller cars after gasoline prices spiked in the summer, the falling price of gasoline threatens to dampen new initiatives.

Autodata said hybrid gas and electric car sales fell 53 percent in November from a year ago, compared with a 37 decline in vehicle sales overall, the Financial Times reported Friday.

[Burai]

nako di pa nga nabebenta dito, nalulugi na agad sa ibang bansa

[meledson]

^^^ napaka mahal kasi.

[uls]

and mura na ang gas

less reason to buy a hybrid

truck sales are doing better in the States than fuel efficient cars

[ghosthunter]

This is one example of "Going Green takes a lot of Green as well".

[Burai]

truck sales are doing better in the States than fuel efficient cars

people there seems to never learn. balikan nanaman sa mga gas guzzlers..
"history repeats itself because people never learn"

[empy]

people there seems to never learn. balikan nanaman sa mga gas guzzlers..
"history repeats itself because people never learn"

the situation is not as simple as his statement implies.

trucks are used for personal, commercial and industrial purposes. the market is necessarily bigger than that of hybrids.

and a near $30k hybrid makes terribly little sense when you can buy cars like the Honda Fit for $13k that get 35 mpg.

[ghosthunter]

the situation is not as simple as his statement implies.

trucks are used for personal, commercial and industrial purposes. the market is necessarily bigger than that of hybrids.

and a near $30k hybrid makes terribly little sense when you can buy cars like the Honda Fit for $13k that get 35 mpg.

Not hybrids vs small cars... americans usually prefer cars with huge engines, not just trucks and pickups. And all they do with such vehicles is just drop off the kids at school and go grocery shopping. I don't think a FORD XP is needed to do such, right?

[G-daddy]

Cheap oil prices lull the car buying public into a state of complacency. Without high gas prices to compel buyers to get hybrids and manufacturers to make them, we will forever be subject to the petrodictators of the middle east.

It's like an addict who somehow manages to stop buying drugs because it's an expensive habit. But then the price of drugs go down, so he falls off the wagon and starts being addicted again.

While ghosthunter very accurately said "going green takes a lot of green," it really takes a conscious (sometimes expensive) effort to wean ourselves off oil dependency. It's growing pains, but ultimately we have to do it to finally reduce greenhouse gases that cause global warming.

[ghosthunter]

Cheap oil prices lull the car buying public into a state of complacency. Without high gas prices to compel buyers to get hybrids and manufacturers to make them, we will forever be subject to the petrodictators of the middle east.

It's like an addict who somehow manages to stop buying drugs because it's an expensive habit. But then the price of drugs go down, so he falls off the wagon and starts being addicted again.

While ghosthunter very accurately said "going green takes a lot of green," it really takes a conscious (sometimes expensive) effort to wean ourselves off oil dependency. It's growing pains, but ultimately we have to do it to finally reduce greenhouse gases that cause global warming.

The analogy of drugs and oil isn't really accurate because drugs you can live without while we always need fuel to power transport and industry. That is unless you want us to going back living with the horse & buggy and bicycles as transport of choice.

Using "alternative" sources of power/fuel isn't as simple as most people will think. There are so much compromises and the cost is much much higher than using current fossil fuels like oil & coal.

Going nuclear is actually the greenest & cost effective BUT it is controversial because of safety issues & long term storage/disposal of waste nuclear fuel.

Going hydrogen as "fuel" isn't really solving anything because producing hydrogen requires power that has to come from somewhere. Solar isn't powerful enough. Hydro-power alters & destroys eco-systems permanently. Wind isn't dependable and massive wind farms can be an eye-sore and also kill birds. Fuel cells are still expensive to manufacture as well. Standard internal combustion systems modified to use hydrogen doesn't provide the same range as compared to gasoline due to lower volumetric energy density of hydrogen vs gasoline.

Going ethanol and bio-diesel on a limited scale is fine but scaling up also creates its own set of problems like using land to grow fuel crops instead of food crops. This leads to food prices going up. And the resulting fuel is still MORE expensive than petroleum based fuels. Not to mention a question if bio-fuels actually require more fuel to produce...

Going green does require a lot of green... for sure because it's not a sustainable "alternative" without government grants and funding. Otherwise, we would already have gone "alternative" on our own because it would be have economically viable.

In the end, what we really need is something that is economically viable to go green.

[Burai]

people here better check out and watch the movie The day the earth stood still i think it has a connection regarding this matter overall :D

[ghosthunter]

Global warming is the alien's fault?