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    #14141
    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    My ride is an Innove Gas a/t 2008, does it have timing belt or chain? When does it need replacement? Its odo reads 136,000km
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    the innova gas engine (1TR) has a timing belt just like the diesel engine (2kd)
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    the 2TR-FE engine uses a timing chain. normally timing chains last the life of the vehicle. i'm not sure about its tensioner though. something to look into if the engine is noisy.
    refer ka na lang sa manual... same lang yata sila sa fortuner mo... [emoji1787][emoji3577]


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    #14142
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Goodshot View Post
    For V, G, and Touring Sport variant owners out there, have you tried installing 2 additional rear parking sensors without changing the module? Like, just adding 2 sensors on the existing parking sensor module. I want to install 2 more sensors and place them on the corners of the rear bumper just so the whole bumper is within the reverse sensor coverage.

    I called the dealer and they said it isn't possible, and that I must change the whole module including the existing sensors if I want to make it 4-eyes for a hefty price of 10K PhP. Then I asked if they are also body-colored since the OEM sensors are colored the same as the body color, and I was surprised by their answer that what they only have are black colored ones. This lead me to think that what they're selling as "genuine" parking sensors are just the same as the ones you can get from local car accessories shops. I don't like that, and it also made me doubt what they said about adding 2 more sensors to the existing 2-eye module is not possible.

    Hope anyone with these variants or knowledge of this circumstance can pitch in some info. Thanks!

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    Having these accessories are good. But I do not always rely on them. I always apply the basics. I use side mirror, rear view mirror, or if I'm not yet boarded the vehicle, check the perimeter of the car including under it.
    It will be difficult to go back to basic if we get used to these gadgets. What if it fails while you're already inside the car? And you're no longer have that instinct or no longer doing the basic checks. It will be a safety concern. Been driving for more than 20 years and never use a backup camera. For me, camera is just for recording purposes. But it can be useful for others. As for the sensor, if you want it cover the sides of the rear, the sensitivity can be adjusted. Again, if you have them, no problem. They can be your assistant. But don't always rely on them. Always do the basics so you won't forget it. Driving is a skill that requires instinct. I hope these gadgets will not destroy our instinct. Just a safety tip.

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    #14143
    ^ I have been driving 30+ years and let me tell you that life before parking sensors and rear cameras was hell.... relatively speaking.

    I have rear parking sensors and a reverse camera. Combine those with your mirrors and some neck-turning, and there’s practically no reason for you to get out of your vehicle before backing up into a slot.

    Bottom line is, when in doubt, double-check. That said, having these driver aids on its own reduces the chances of fender benders quite significantly.

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    #14144
    ^^^I observed nowadays that most drivers who have these aids, when they are reversing, they just looked at the screen monitor and no longer looking at the left and right side mirrors anymore. 'Coz the aid of the screen monitor is catching more attention than the latter. Try to observe it.

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    #14145
    Quote Originally Posted by first_light View Post
    ^^^I observed nowadays that most drivers who have these aids, when they are reversing, they just looked at the screen monitor and no longer looking at the left and right side mirrors anymore. 'Coz the aid of the screen monitor is catching more attention than the latter. Try to observe it.
    It’s a judgment call. There could be a number of reasons why they do that. Top of mind is, they may have already taken a good look at the space they plan to back into upon approach.

    The next time you see someone do that, ask them why.

    But unless there’s data that suggests that the use of driving aids, specifically sensors and rear cameras, causes more harm than good, there is absolutely no reason not to have or use them.

    Parking sensors and cameras can see obstacles most drivers might miss. Low bollards and parking lines/thresholds, walls, etc. These aids helps you park your vehicle with precision.
    Last edited by oj88; December 15th, 2019 at 09:02 AM.

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    #14146
    Quote Originally Posted by first_light View Post
    ^^^I observed nowadays that most drivers who have these aids, when they are reversing, they just looked at the screen monitor and no longer looking at the left and right side mirrors anymore. 'Coz the aid of the screen monitor is catching more attention than the latter. Try to observe it.
    if the aid is there, i'd use it. but i'd still look at the mirrors out of habit...
    in some countries, in driving exams, if one did not turn one's head to look, even with all these doodads... bagsak ka nah!

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    #14147
    I only have 2 eyes of sensors installed at the back. Gamit pa rin ang side mirrors for additional safety check.

    One time when I was parked in a mall, the car in front of my slot was parking in reverse. Yung side mirror nya sumabit sa poste at nagfold pabaliktad. Di ko na nahabol senyasan na sasabit na sya. Di ko lang alam kung power-folding yun o manual lang. Sabi ko na lang sa sarili ko, hindi ba sya tumitingin sa side mirror nya?

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    #14148
    Quote Originally Posted by yubby24 View Post
    I only have 2 eyes of sensors installed at the back. Gamit pa rin ang side mirrors for additional safety check.

    One time when I was parked in a mall, the car in front of my slot was parking in reverse. Yung side mirror nya sumabit sa poste at nagfold pabaliktad. Di ko na nahabol senyasan na sasabit na sya. Di ko lang alam kung power-folding yun o manual lang. Sabi ko na lang sa sarili ko, hindi ba sya tumitingin sa side mirror nya?
    from then on, i am sure, tumitingin na siya.

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    #14149
    How much ba yung usual discount if magdownpayment ng 300k? What are the freebies na usual ibigay?

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    #14150
    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    How much ba yung usual discount if magdownpayment ng 300k? What are the freebies na usual ibigay?
    i don't know.
    i pay cash, because i do not know how to make my money work for me.
    heh heh.

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    #14151
    I have always been a proponent of using OEM fluids for components as important (and expensive) as the A/T, but humor me for a moment on this....


    Has anyone tried the Zic ATF III (or Zic ATF 3) on the Innova D4D 1st Gen?

    Or can you share what non-Toyota ATF you've used for the D4D variant (A340E A/T transmission)?

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    #14152
    guys, it's been a while since i last posted here in the forums. happy new year muna bago mahuli. [emoji38]

    anyways, here's my situation right now, the in-laws are migrating to the US in a couple months. they have a '17 innova 2.8 E AT currently at 83K kms, essentially 31 months old. ginawang grab ni erpats kasi.

    question now, is it wise to assume paying the remaining 29 months? (around 500k), or have them sell it to somebody else. di kasi inalagaan ni erpats, after the 10K PMS, void na kaagad warranty. body dents all around. he blew the high pressure ac hose in the engine bay, not sure how. we already replaced the alternator bearing. front shocks are on the way. pati all 4 tires nga are of different brands, same sizes though.

    but since you guys have the same car for sometime now, you might say this thing is tough and can take a beating. i might as well take it instead of buying new for my small family of 4 (5 and 1yr old kids). currently driving a gen 1 vios and with 2 carseats, medyo masikip na talaga.

    sorry for the long story. mas ok na yong kumpleto detalyi. lol. Thanks!

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    2005 member

    how was the engine oil maintenance? tranamissions fluid? the engine is heavy duty but if the fluids werent changed on time then it might have some issues in the future.

    ive riden some fortuners na grab.. they had so much vibrations and suspensions were awful.

    suspension and brake parts are normal wear and tear items. plenty of parts.. fake parts thats for sure lol.

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    #14154
    ^^ shhh baka mahalata edad. [emoji28]

    regular naman oil change outside casa. Re ATF, haven't been changed yet. i opened the manual just now and it says to replace at 80K with the condition it's being subjected to.

    agree on suspension parts as normal wear items. the body dents i don't worry too much, i know a body shop that can get it done for less.

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    #14155
    take it bro. more upsides than downsides. after 5 years you can sell it at 500k -600k hahaha

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    #14156
    Quote Originally Posted by blank check View Post
    guys, it's been a while since i last posted here in the forums. happy new year muna bago mahuli. [emoji38]

    anyways, here's my situation right now, the in-laws are migrating to the US in a couple months. they have a '17 innova 2.8 E AT currently at 83K kms, essentially 31 months old. ginawang grab ni erpats kasi.

    question now, is it wise to assume paying the remaining 29 months? (around 500k), or have them sell it to somebody else. di kasi inalagaan ni erpats, after the 10K PMS, void na kaagad warranty. body dents all around. he blew the high pressure ac hose in the engine bay, not sure how. we already replaced the alternator bearing. front shocks are on the way. pati all 4 tires nga are of different brands, same sizes though.

    but since you guys have the same car for sometime now, you might say this thing is tough and can take a beating. i might as well take it instead of buying new for my small family of 4 (5 and 1yr old kids). currently driving a gen 1 vios and with 2 carseats, medyo masikip na talaga.

    sorry for the long story. mas ok na yong kumpleto detalyi. lol. Thanks!

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    that 500K may lasso you an older generation innova diesel AT that has less issues and headaches than your in-laws'.
    however... if would you like to go into the grab business..?

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    #14157
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    that 500K may lasso you an older generation innova diesel AT that has less issues and headaches than your in-laws'.
    however... if would you like to go into the grab business..?
    older gens will probably have more kilometers on them than this unit. the 2.8 is toyotas extra heavy duty workhorse. 500k is a bargain. palit lahat ng wear and tear items. upgrade the head unit and hes got a Tbadge ready for 2020-2030

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    #14158
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    older gens will probably have more kilometers on them than this unit. the 2.8 is toyotas extra heavy duty workhorse. 500k is a bargain. palit lahat ng wear and tear items. upgrade the head unit and hes got a Tbadge ready for 2020-2030
    are you saying, you will buy it, if post-er says he's passing it up?

    the post-er kasi... he does not need to buy it, either.

    btw,
    we always fail to put a price on our hardship.. headache.. time spent..
    Last edited by dr. d; December 29th, 2019 at 07:33 PM.

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    #14159
    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    I have always been a proponent of using OEM fluids for components as important (and expensive) as the A/T, but humor me for a moment on this....


    Has anyone tried the Zic ATF III (or Zic ATF 3) on the Innova D4D 1st Gen?

    Or can you share what non-Toyota ATF you've used for the D4D variant (A340E A/T transmission)?
    Just use toyota T-IV. Its just 1300 per gallon at toyota.

    Same price lang halos ng 1 gallon ng zic. Sure ka oa

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    #14160
    Quote Originally Posted by blank check View Post
    guys, it's been a while since i last posted here in the forums. happy new year muna bago mahuli. [emoji38]

    anyways, here's my situation right now, the in-laws are migrating to the US in a couple months. they have a '17 innova 2.8 E AT currently at 83K kms, essentially 31 months old. ginawang grab ni erpats kasi.

    question now, is it wise to assume paying the remaining 29 months? (around 500k), or have them sell it to somebody else. di kasi inalagaan ni erpats, after the 10K PMS, void na kaagad warranty. body dents all around. he blew the high pressure ac hose in the engine bay, not sure how. we already replaced the alternator bearing. front shocks are on the way. pati all 4 tires nga are of different brands, same sizes though.

    but since you guys have the same car for sometime now, you might say this thing is tough and can take a beating. i might as well take it instead of buying new for my small family of 4 (5 and 1yr old kids). currently driving a gen 1 vios and with 2 carseats, medyo masikip na talaga.

    sorry for the long story. mas ok na yong kumpleto detalyi. lol. Thanks!

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    Go get the innova. Its cheap. Madali lang naman ayusin mga issues mo.

    On the aircon hose, not surprised there. My new innova had faulty hoses and was replaced under warranty while car was 3 months old

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