Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

[dr. d]

Hi Innova peeps!

My uncle is on the hunt for a Innova with 400k budget. I searched on olx and ang pasok lang sa budget nya is a gas fed Innova, pero siguro he can extend a bit more for a d4d variant.

My questions are as follows.

1. What would be the average fuel consumption of the 2.0 vvti Innova?

2. Will it be "economical" extending the budget to get a d4d variant? How's the performance of the first gen d4d? By economical, I mean if he decides to extend his budget say to 460k, baka hinde maging wise buy, because of the problems that might occur on the first gen d4d like hard starting and choking etc (which is somewhat common on crdi engine). Unlike, if he buys a gas variant eh, wala masyado known problems besides the regular tune up (afaik). Kasi pag sinagad niya yung budget niya, he might not have extra money to spend on repair/s needed.

Your thoughts are highly appreciated. Thank you.

get the diesel. any variant. hindi ka mag-sisisi.
of course there are "problems that might occur"... it's a used car! but don't bet on it at baka matalo ka.
i haven't yet met a disgruntled d4d owner.

[homhomnova]

Hi Innova peeps!

My uncle is on the hunt for a Innova with 400k budget. I searched on olx and ang pasok lang sa budget nya is a gas fed Innova, pero siguro he can extend a bit more for a d4d variant.

My questions are as follows.

1. What would be the average fuel consumption of the 2.0 vvti Innova?

2. Will it be "economical" extending the budget to get a d4d variant? How's the performance of the first gen d4d? By economical, I mean if he decides to extend his budget say to 460k, baka hinde maging wise buy, because of the problems that might occur on the first gen d4d like hard starting and choking etc (which is somewhat common on crdi engine). Unlike, if he buys a gas variant eh, wala masyado known problems besides the regular tune up (afaik). Kasi pag sinagad niya yung budget niya, he might not have extra money to spend on repair/s needed.

Your thoughts are highly appreciated. Thank you.

For what purpose ba yung sasakyan? for business o family use?

kung for business at malayo lagi ang tatakbuhin at madalas kargado.. i would suggest you go for d4d pero kung pang pang pamilya.. I would suggest you go for vvti..

kung d4d, be ready sa mga sumusunod

1. SCV problem
2. Injectors - napakamahal nito pag ito nasira - dirty diesel can also cause fuel injectors to fail
3. EGR problems due to dirty diesel - dirty diesel is common dito sa atin.. except Euro 4 (Uni Oil and Sea Oil only)
4. Mas maingay at malakas ang vibration ng makina compared sa vvti pero mas matipid naman

Kung vvti, be ready sa mga sumusunod

1. Fuel Tank warping - (2005-2008? model)
2. Fuel Consumption - average is ~ 5-7 km/l


btw.. mine is 2013 vvti at.. so far i get ~6.7-7 km/l moderate to heavy traffic.. and very satisfied sa performance..

[cast_no_shadow]

Ano ba A/C compressor ng innova?

Madami ba klase and brands?

Anyone already changed theirs?




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[vvti2.0]

Our Innova is 2008 E model, it is VVTI, arounf 6-7 km/l pure city drive, 800 meters x 4 per day, peros a highway can give you 14km/h.

Nakuha namin for PhP 270k + 30k sa mga ahente, first owned, with casa records nasa 50k km nung nabili namin.

[vvti2.0]

Our Innova is 2008 E model, it is VVTI, arounf 6-7 km/l pure city drive, 800 meters x 4 per day, peros a highway can give you 14km/h.

Nakuha namin for PhP 270k + 30k sa mga ahente, first owned, with casa records nasa 50k km nung nabili namin.

[bugoys]

Thank you for all the inputs guys!

*homhomnova- That's exactly ang usual nasisira nga on crdi engine, thus nag dadalawang isip ako i suggest sa kanya na mag diesel. It would cost him a fortune if ever na masira yun sa kanya on its first year of ownership, moreover pag wala pang 1 yr. Lagot talaga. While pag gasoline naman is, the usual lang. I have yet to read that warping gas tank of the vvti Innnova.

Usage would be pang family lang. I think hinde naman gagamitin for business kasi wala nmang business. What I don't know is, if he'll use it going to work. I think from Bulacan to Manila ang everyday route nya.

*vvti 2.0- Wow! Thats cheap even with the added 30k comm to the agent. Care to share yung pinagkuhanan nyo? Hihihih. Thank you.

[shibby75]

If your getting 2nd hand, better get the vvti. Baka mamulubi ka pag nasira ang diesel. Too many things to go wrong.

Mabilis din naman vvti, wala lamg yung malakas na torque ng diesel.

Its not as weak as the 1.8fx, 2.0 vannete,1.6 lite ace, ano pa ba mga van na mahirap timplahin?

A vvti can tops at 180kph. Usual fc is 7-8. My best hiway is 12kml and i dont drive below 100kph.

[homhomnova]

If your getting 2nd hand, better get the vvti. Baka mamulubi ka pag nasira ang diesel. Too many things to go wrong.

Mabilis din naman vvti, wala lamg yung malakas na torque ng diesel.

Its not as weak as the 1.8fx, 2.0 vannete,1.6 lite ace, ano pa ba mga van na mahirap timplahin?

A vvti can tops at 180kph. Usual fc is 7-8. My best hiway is 12kml and i dont drive below 100kph.

Naalala ko sir may nag post sa kabilang thread 200kph ang top speed nya sa innova vvti.. with matching pix ng speedometer..

[fiber_optic]

After so long I've posted here, maybe it's time to share my thoughts here. I own an Innova Sport Runner Diesel A/t. My first complain before was it is terribly slow. Now i put a race chip and it really improved its performance both for the HP and Torque. It' s a 2010 model and so far, it didn't failed me. No major problem whatsoever. With its 57,000+km mileage, it's still working like new. I just dont let it below half tank so as not to build molds in the tank which is common with diesel tanks that may cause car stalling. I also regularly change oils and filters. No need to bring it to casa. Just religiously follow preventive maintenance and repairs. As for the shocks, I installed O Sulee rubbers, protection for my springs and shocks and as well to improve somewhat the ride.
Although we are a lot in the roads, I can say our Innovas are as reliable as it can be.


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[2rm]

ano po stock battery ng 2012 Innova G Diesel A/T? Size and Brand ? Thanks.

[crosswind]

ano po stock battery ng 2012 Innova G Diesel A/T? Size and Brand ? Thanks.

it is 2sm yung brand nakalimutan ko na
why naubos agad karga ng battery ng innova mo??

[shibby75]

I dont know why 200 yon, maybe larger tires.

personally 180 max ko, kahit sino mag post dito, 180 max ng vvti.

[cast_no_shadow]

^tried it before yup hanggang 180 lang ayaw na lumampas hehe vvti A/T user here.


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[fiber_optic]

ano po stock battery ng 2012 Innova G Diesel A/T? Size and Brand ? Thanks.

I think the brand is Outlast. I changed my battery just this year. Mine is a 2010 model. Napansin ko lang medyo hard starting na sya around April this year so I ought to replace it in advance. Ayoko tumirik A/T pa naman unit ko. Motolite Enduro pinalit ko. Ung isang unit ko before Enduro tumagal ng 5 years.


fiber_optic

[crosswind]

I dont know why 200 yon, maybe larger tires.

personally 180 max ko, kahit sino mag post dito, 180 max ng vvti.

It's in my owner's manual maxspeed ng 2kblah
d4-d engine is 180kph

[crosswind]

I think the brand is Outlast. I changed my battery just this year. Mine is a 2010 model. Napansin ko lang medyo hard starting na sya around April this year so I ought to replace it in advance. Ayoko tumirik A/T pa naman unit ko. Motolite Enduro pinalit ko. Ung isang unit ko before Enduro tumagal ng 5 years.


fiber_optic

Sir anong motolite 3sm or 2sm??
Saakin 3sm gamit ko sa innova pang 2yrs lang mas advisable daw
yan para di hard starting sa morning

[kanofortune]

Hello everyone!! I'm new to this forum, and as you may have guessed, I am not from the Philippines. I do, however, live in the Philippines and own a 2009 Toyota Innova.

I like the van a lot, and it has given me few problems.

My issue is this: My rear aircon fan is not coming on. I use the switch to turn it on, but get nothing. It worked fine until a couple of days ago. The front aircon unit is fine. I don't have a clue about this van's equipment as it is VERY different from anything I have owned before.

NOTE: I have had the front aircon unit serviced as it had stopped working. Now, the back is not working.

My questions:
1. Does this van have two airconditioning units, or simply two fans?
2. Where is the second fan located?
3. Is there also a second filter?

I appreciate any and all help you can give me on this, as the dealer is VERY expensive just to look at the aircon.

Thank you!

[dr. d]

Hello everyone!! I'm new to this forum, and as you may have guessed, I am not from the Philippines. I do, however, live in the Philippines and own a 2009 Toyota Innova.

I like the van a lot, and it has given me few problems.

My issue is this: My rear aircon fan is not coming on. I use the switch to turn it on, but get nothing. It worked fine until a couple of days ago. The front aircon unit is fine. I don't have a clue about this van's equipment as it is VERY different from anything I have owned before.

NOTE: I have had the front aircon unit serviced as it had stopped working. Now, the back is not working.

My questions:
1. Does this van have two airconditioning units, or simply two fans?
2. Where is the second fan located?
3. Is there also a second filter?

I appreciate any and all help you can give me on this, as the dealer is VERY expensive just to look at the aircon.

Thank you!

a 2009 innova is definitely out of warranty by now. that means, you can have it serviced anywhere..
you can try the aircon shops at banawe st. in quezon city. it's the aftermarket auto mecca. prices there are significantly lower than dealer prices by up to 50%, maybe more.
to answer your questions:
1. the van has only one aircon, i.e., one compressor, one heat exchanger (in front of the engine), one filter and drier. but it has two fans.
2. the first fan is under the dashboard. the second fan is behind the right rearmost panel. it can be accessed by removing said panel. alas, you also have to remove the folding right rearmost seat to do so. it's not a complicated affair, but takes a fair amount of muscle. the bolts to remove are visible and accessible.
3. someone here said a while back, that there isn't a filter for the rear fan, but a little ingenuity can remedy that.

before ripping into 'er, please check the fuses first. your problem might simply be a case of busted fuse. a good auto electrician can help you with this, with only minimal fee, as all it takes is a few minutes and very little elbow grease.
good luck.

[fiber_optic]

Sir anong motolite 3sm or 2sm??
Saakin 3sm gamit ko sa innova pang 2yrs lang mas advisable daw
yan para di hard starting sa morning

Enduro sir ung puti 2sm lng gamit ko. Mas ok ung enduro kesa sa gold based on my experience.



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[ptk675]

hey guys, i have a 2012 D4D G AT. before when I fill up, the trip computer gives an average distance of around 415-430km range, actual fuel consumption is around 10-11km/L.

Now it only returns 370-385kms. actual fuel consumption based on manual computation is around 8.8-9km/L. any tips to improve mileage again?