Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [continued 3]

[dr. d]

mine died within 2 years after i acquired her from new in 2005. at that time, since the model was still relatively new in the market, no off-casa replacements were available. i don't remember if i was billed 13K or 33K for the casa replacement.
i was made to believe then, that the bearing gave way, and that they couldn't repair it. hence, the replacement. but now, logic suggests it should be repairable, although i never pursued the matter.

[crazy_boy]

^ano symptom before nasira alternator?

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[number001]

My alternator just died on me!

Thankfully nauwi ko pa ng bahay pero on my way home ramdam ko na something is unusual. I called motolite delivery dahil pasok pa sa warranty yung battery ko, they checked it alternator problem nga.

Meron na senyo nagpalit?
How much?

Due to ageing ba yan?
wear and tear?

Problema ko naman paano gagawin ko? Nauwi ko nga hindi ko naman mailabas.

'06 model sakin by the way.


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I suggest having it checked first and get a second opinion from a competent electrican or reputable shop.

In my experience battery shops (esp. when they know you are about to claim warranty) will always put the blame on a "faulty alternator" without even considering that the battery may defective.

[number001]

^ano symptom before nasira alternator?

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It will not charge the battery when the engine is running. Normal voltage reading of a healthy battery of an overnight parked car is 12.4v to 12.6v. It goes up to 13.4V or so when you start the vehicle. A vehicle with a non functioning/defective alternator will give a lower reading vs. not started reading bec the alt is not charging the batt.

[Wizkhialifa]

Hi mga Sir.mtanong ko lang po kahapon po kasi na deads na yung battery ng Innova ko bale kanina lang napalitan ng bagong battery tapos kanina napansin ko hindi na gumagana yung sa power window switch ko. Parang nagkabaliktad, sa Pag Auto yung in-up ko umaangat naman yung window pero hindi na sya automatic tas pag yung normal na up lang sa switch hindi gumagana.

[MrQ5]

Nangyari na din saken yan, ang naging problema saken sa hindi ko pagbubukas ng window, pinto kasi gamit ko kung may kailangan kausapin o abutin, naging madumi siguro terminals ng switch, naging solusyon gamitin switch mga 10x up and down continuously while the car is off.

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[dr. d]

^ano symptom before nasira alternator?

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in my case, the vehicle wouldn't start. the engine wouldn't even crank. and i did not even notice the alternator warning light even lighting up before that..

[cast_no_shadow]

^ano symptom before nasira alternator?

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Ako on my way home last night, una ko napansin humin buga ng AC, nag dim yung gauge, ilaw nung radio basta yung mga illuminated nag dim, Humina yung busina, humina headlight.

I turned off my radio and AC since kakaiba na talaga, nagdadasal na ako na sana maiuwi ko lang sa bahay.

Pag uwi ko after switching the engine ayaw na mag start even crank wala.

Ayun deads.


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[cast_no_shadow]

It will not charge the battery when the engine is running. Normal voltage reading of a healthy battery of an overnight parked car is 12.4v to 12.6v. It goes up to 13.4V or so when you start the vehicle. A vehicle with a non functioning/defective alternator will give a lower reading vs. not started reading bec the alt is not charging the batt.

At first akala ko battery issues lang, pasok pa sa warranty batt ko dumating si motolite check muna yung water level nung batt ko normal lahat. Nadiskarga nga lang.

He tried putting on the new battery, bagsak pa din yun reading hindi umaabot ng 13V parang naghihingalo yung makina.


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[kristine123]

After how many years Sir Cast ang alternator mo?

Mine napalitan ko na years ago.

Humihina na lahat pati radio namamatay na. Tumirik ang Innova sa busy street buti na lang nasa harap lang ng shell station tumirik . Damaged ako sa bagong alternator 20+k at timing na hindi ako ang nag drive .

[vvti2.0]

mine died within 2 years after i acquired her from new in 2005. at that time, since the model was still relatively new in the market, no off-casa replacements were available. i don't remember if i was billed 13K or 33K for the casa replacement.
i was made to believe then, that the bearing gave way, and that they couldn't repair it. hence, the replacement. but now, logic suggests it should be repairable, although i never pursued the matter.

Kahit ba paps D4D alternator dependent rin pag tumatakbo? Akala ko pag diesel hindi sya alternator dependent kapag tumatakbo na hehehe...

[CVT]

Ako on my way home last night, una ko napansin humin buga ng AC, nag dim yung gauge, ilaw nung radio basta yung mga illuminated nag dim, Humina yung busina, humina headlight.

I turned off my radio and AC since kakaiba na talaga, nagdadasal na ako na sana maiuwi ko lang sa bahay.

Pag uwi ko after switching the engine ayaw na mag start even crank wala.

Ayun deads.

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Inubos na ng iyong electricals (engine - sparks) and karga ng iyong baterya bro,- dahil lahat diyan na nanggagaling dahil nga sira na si alternator...

Sana hindi kumapal ng todo ang plates para mai-recover ang baterya,- at ang problema lang ay ang alternator....

Kung pati si baterya tinamaan,- doble ang sakit ng ulo....

A mini-voltmeter,- plugged to your cigarette lighter interface should give you an early warning if there are latent issues with your alternator... Kita mo siya sa instantaneous voltage measurement, (as displayed )....





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[cast_no_shadow]

After how many years Sir Cast ang alternator mo?

Mine napalitan ko na years ago.

Humihina na lahat pati radio namamatay na. Tumirik ang Innova sa busy street buti na lang nasa harap lang ng shell station tumirik . Damaged ako sa bagong alternator 20+k at timing na hindi ako ang nag drive .

Novemer '06 yung sakin.

Ako naman todo todo dasal na makauwi hehe ang hirap kahit mainit anlamig ng pawis ko.


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[cast_no_shadow]

Now im confused, i need your opinion.

1.I called a mechanic told me he can go to my house, may dala siya spare battery then itakbo namin oto ko sa shop niya. Kalasin alternator to check ano sira and try to repair it. As for the mechanic referred lang sakin yun. If for replacement na yung alternator ko papahanap ako sa capalangan ng pre-owned na piyesa.

2. Call a towing, dalhin na sa casa at ipapalit na lang alternator?

My concerns:
- dapat ba for 2006 din na alternator mahanap ko? Or lahat ng alternator kahit new models compatible sa innova ko?

- pricey si casa pero as usual mas may peace of mind daw.

Tingin niyo ano mas maganda gawin?




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[shibby75]

Old school diesel mechanical lahat, kahit wala battery tatakbo. Ang d4d electronic diesel na, from pumps, ecu to the injectors. Titirik din pag wala na kuryente.

[number001]

*cast

It all depends on your budget.

If its at Toyota Casa, they will have the entire assembly changed. It would be quite remote that the CASA would try to repair your old one. Very pricey in the end but this should give you peace of mind.

[shibby75]

Depende sa sira ng alternator mo, kung brushes at bearing lang, pde palitan yan. Kung internal regulator ang sira, bka me replacement IC type sa auto supply.

Meron din marunong mag convert to external type regulator. I dont know kung magagawa pa yon on modern engines.

Pero kung ako eh ill look for good pre owned alternator..

[cast_no_shadow]

*cast

It all depends on your budget.

If its at Toyota Casa, they will have the entire assembly changed. It would be quite remote that the CASA would try to repair your old one. Very pricey in the end but this should give you peace of mind.

Yes i know casa don't do repairs, replacement agad. I consulted my dad he insisted baka nga may component lang na sira sayang to replace the whole assembly.

What i don't want to happen is mechanic dismantling my car, removing the alternator fixing it putting it back then after using it magka problem ulit which is highly probable ba? As for that mechanic hindi ko pa alam tumrabaho yun.

Kaya napapaisip ako na dalhin na lang sa casa to have it replaced totally kaso. Pero what ifs haunt me, like what if minor lang pala sira sayang naman to have it replaced.

Ang gulo ko no? Sensya na kayo.


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[number001]

Yes i know casa don't do repairs, replacement agad. I consulted my dad he insisted baka nga may component lang na sira sayang to replace the whole assembly.

What i don't want to happen is mechanic dismantling my car, removing the alternator fixing it putting it back then after using it magka problem ulit which is highly probable ba? As for that mechanic hindi ko pa alam tumrabaho yun.

Kaya napapaisip ako na dalhin na lang sa casa to have it replaced totally kaso. Pero what ifs haunt me, like what if minor lang pala sira sayang naman to have it replaced.

Ang gulo ko no? Sensya na kayo.


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You can go the Casa route for peace of mind.

And have your old one assessed first. If its repairable, then have it repaired. After that you can keep it as back up or sell it.

[vvti2.0]

It is repairable and it can even be rebuilt, bihira masira ang alternator, unless otherwise ikaw yung sanay na mag pa engine wash, sigurado iikli ang buhay ng alternator mo. Kahit ano pang cover mo sa alternator, palagi yan mababasa during engine wash.

Yung electrical system sa loob nyan, typical diode lang naman yan na high current.. And yung regulator naman nyan, may nabibili rin sa market na replacement regulator nyan.

Yung regulator is for the circuits and modules that needs regulated 12V to run.

Hanap ka lang paps na magaling na rewinding shop, alam na nila gagawin dyan.