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    #7981
    Quote Originally Posted by trucker111 View Post
    yung headlight, may tig isang relay na rin ba yung stock?
    Wala paps relay ang headlight.


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    #7982
    so, kung may relay na ang horn for toyota innova 2013, it is safe to install bosch europa silver sa innova ko na parang plug and play lang mga sir (no additional relay ) ?

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    #7983
    Quote Originally Posted by prince_jeoure View Post
    so, kung may relay na ang horn for toyota innova 2013, it is safe to install bosch europa silver sa innova ko na parang plug and play lang mga sir (no additional relay ) ?
    to be sure, look up the relay's capacity, if it can handle the horn's requirements.

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    #7984
    hope this will help. just change the fog light with horn.. i also use gauge 14 wires kasi sabi nila baka daw masunog yung stock or minsan daw paos yung busina pag stock.


    What i did is disconnect the wire from the stock horn.. tapos yung stock wire connect to relay no. 85. then the rest wire gauge 14 na gamit ko. Yung wire going to + terminal may 20 amp fuse din ako nilagay to make sure.. yung relay binalutan ko nlang ng electrical tape and hide it somewhere na hindi mababasa. hope this help.
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    #7985
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    to be sure, look up the relay's capacity, if it can handle the horn's requirements.
    Sa fuse dapat paps tumingin, typical mataas ang switching capacity ng relay. Kasi bago bumigal ang switch ng relay sa loob, bibigay muna ang fuse.

    Heto yung non-Vietnamese na schematic diagram ng hron ng innova.


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    #7986
    Quote Originally Posted by prince_jeoure View Post
    so, kung may relay na ang horn for toyota innova 2013, it is safe to install bosch europa silver sa innova ko na parang plug and play lang mga sir (no additional relay ) ?
    Ang problema mo dyan ay paano mo pagkakasyahin yung europa silver sa grill ng innova.

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    #7987
    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Ang problema mo dyan ay paano mo pagkakasyahin yung europa silver sa grill ng innova.
    sir kasya naman po yung europa sa grill. ang sabi sakin. Ok lang daw po na parang plug and play nalang daw po yung horn sa mga bagong labas na innova daw po. so simple wire plug in nalang po ginawa ko. pano po ba magpost ng pic dito? para po mapost ko po yung ginawa ko. thanks sa lahat ng mga sumagot sa tanong ko.

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    #7988
    Installed my europa silver on the bottom cross bar of the chassis. Meron 2 butas don, sakto sa turnilyo. No need to drill holes.

    Pero i installed a separate relay, mura lang naman and it preserves the orig end connector. Para pag me warranty claim ako, pedd ko tanggalin kagad europa and reconnect the orig horns.

    How sure are we that the orig relay will handle the amp rating of the new horn?

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    #7989
    Don't worry about the relay, worry about the fuse.

    Kung pumutok ang fuse, ibig sabihin mataas ang ampere rating ng horn, check the schematic, pang Innova ang mga yan.

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    #7990
    U need to intall a separate harness if u upgrade to a louder horn. Yung stock horn wiring is too thin. Stock fuse will also not be able the higher current.

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    #7991
    tanong ko lang sir, if ever na bumigay ang fuse or relay, kailan ba yun nangyayari? pag babaran ang busina? or unang pindot palang ng busina bigla nalang mawawala horn sound?

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    #7992
    Once I fully depress mo yung switch sa steering putok agad fuse nyan. Never replace the fuse with a higher rating. I made a harness using gauge 12 wire for my mitsuba horn.

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    #7993
    Ganito yan, sa rating ng fuse na yan, hindi masisira ang switch ng relay unless otherwise hindi bumigay ang fuse at excessive na masyado ang current na dumaan sa switch ng relay. Btw, iba ang switch gn relay sa coil ng relay, yung coil ng relay mo, yun ang nilalagyan ng current ng switch ng manibela mo para pumalo ang switch ng relay.

    Same rin yan sa wire, bago masunog ang wire mo, bibigay muna ang fuse mo, kasi kung ang fuse ng stock is designed for 10A, expect na mas mataas yung kayang i-handle ng wire, pero for sure iinit yan kahit ano pang ilagay mo na wire dyan.

    Case in point: 10A horn current draw, 12V, will create 120 Watts, run that for 1 minute and it will create 3.79 deg Celsius

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    #7994
    Kung bosch fanfaren or yung ec6 ilalagay mo, ok lang wag ka maglagay ng separate relay.

    Pero kung sa tingin mo malaki yung ilalagay mo, di pa ako nakakakita ng europa na bosch ng malapitan, pwede ka maglagay ng separate relay, madali lang naman i-wire yan.

    Yung FX namin, ang nilagay ko PIAA Slim horn, sabi dun sa manual, kahit wag na lagyan relay, pero nilagyan ko kasi wala stock relay ang FX, kapag wala stock na relay, yung switch ng horn sa manibela, madali masira.

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    #7995
    hello toyota innova owners. my family is keen in getting the latest innova G AT. may mga questions lang po at sana matulungan nyo ko:

    1. we live in QC, so ano po ang casa na may magandang reputations pagdating sa aftermarket support at honest pag dating sa maintenance ng auto? basically, halos pare parehas lang ang promotions ng quezon ave, commonwealth, north edsa at balintawak. so ang deciding factor namin eh yung mapagkakatiwalaan na casa.
    2. namimilit ang aking mga kids at pati na si misis to upgrade agad the entertainment unit ng soon to be innova. i am thinking of headunit na may GPS and the kids wants the screens at the back rest. meron po ba kayong ma-su-suggest na shop, brand and a good installer? alam ko po na void ang warranty, pero electrical warranty po ba? paano po kung yung makina ang problema?
    3. may suggestion po ba kayong shop para sa rear top spoiler at good quality na leather seats?

    sana po may time kayo sumagot. thanks.
    mabuhay at happy new year po sa lahat.

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    #7996
    sir kahapon kasi natest ko na yung sa horn namin (bosch europa) parang plug and play lang ang ginawa kong kabit as in naglagay lang ako additional wire to connect sa stock wiring to horn. and ilang beses naman ako nakapagbusina 2-4sec na tuloy tuloy. Wala naman nangyari. Does it mean na kaya ng innova namin yung bagong horn? or may oras na bibigay din ang fuse/ relay/ wiring? sorry daming tanong.

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    #7997
    Hi sirs, okay lang ba yung binigay sa akin na quote ni TBP for the 40k PMS?



    Tatanggalin ko nga pala diyan yung engine wash and diesel additive since i think hindi naman siya kailangan. Ineexpect ko pa naman na aabutin ng P20,+++ yung cost dahil major PMS. Nagtataka rin ako since nabasa ko sa owner's manual na sa 40k PMS pinapalinis yung aircon. sabi nung SA di pa daw kailangan since 1 1/2 palang naman daw yung auto.

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    #7998
    ^

    Okay na ung price sir nasa ganyan range pag 40k pms na.


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    #7999
    Quote Originally Posted by crave View Post
    Hi sirs, okay lang ba yung binigay sa akin na quote ni TBP for the 40k PMS?



    Tatanggalin ko nga pala diyan yung engine wash and diesel additive since i think hindi naman siya kailangan. Ineexpect ko pa naman na aabutin ng P20,+++ yung cost dahil major PMS. Nagtataka rin ako since nabasa ko sa owner's manual na sa 40k PMS pinapalinis yung aircon. sabi nung SA di pa daw kailangan since 1 1/2 palang naman daw yung auto.
    IMO, since malapit na yang mag 2 years - end of warranty. I will have it done sa Gasoline Station, di yan aabot sa P8-9K using mineral oils and around 10-11K using synthetic oils.

    Had the same situation years ago, I decided to have it at Caltex Station, palit lahat ng fluids (engine oil, transmission oil, differential gear oil, raditor fluid, brake fluid, power steering oil, brakes pad cleaning and all filters binili ko sa casa.

    But then again, its your choice siyempre - Casa or not

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    #8000
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    IMO, since malapit na yang mag 2 years - end of warranty. I will have it done sa Gasoline Station, di yan aabot sa P8-9K using mineral oils and around 10-11K using synthetic oils.

    Had the same situation years ago, I decided to have it at Caltex Station, palit lahat ng fluids (engine oil, transmission oil, differential gear oil, raditor fluid, brake fluid, power steering oil, brakes pad cleaning and all filters binili ko sa casa.

    But then again, its your choice siyempre - Casa or not
    Sir mile kailan ka nagpalinis ng aircon? Additional 10k daw for general cleaning with cabin filter tapos iiwan for 2-3 days. Hindi ko na muna pinalinis kasi wala akong gagamitin sa pamasok sa trabaho at saka hindi pa naman hilaw yung lamig.

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