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    #7221
    ^

    hindi ba pag automatic or cvt ang tranny yan ang efficient at proper time sa pag shift automatically?

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    #7222
    Nope, RPM based lang naman ang shifting ng mga AT.

    Di naman ganun ka complex ang system nyan para kunin lahat ng valid inputs para malaman nya when to shift or not.

    Say for example, computed nya ang current physical paylod ng sasakyan, yung resisting force para mag move forward yung sasakyan (kasama na dyan wind drag, gravity pull, tire friction etc..) and I bet walang sasakyan na may matinong PID controller.

    Wala pa rin tatalo sa senses ng driver compared sa ECU ng mga sasakyan.

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    #7223
    Been using Synthetic oil since 2009. Oil change every 10K and top up every 5K.

    Is it advisable to change to mineral-based oil? If yes, what can you recommend?

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    #7224
    What's the use of top up every 5k? And gaano karami ang top up every 5k?

    You can change to mineral oil, pero sabi nila you need to change muna from fully synthetic to semi synthetic before ka mag mineral oil.

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    #7225
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    kasi palit ng filter every 5k kaya top up.

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    #7226
    [QUOTE= yes, but.... kinda defeats the purpose of why you thought you got the AT in the first place... "popcar-driving", 'di ba? (others call it "bumpcar driving", but i think that's a little too radical ..)

    by its very design, in everyday use, AT almost always will give worse fuel efficiency than the MT equivalent.. "sliippage"...[/QUOTE]

    Not actually defeating the purpose dr. d. I am not eliminating the comfort of driving an AT, I am just suggesting how to improve fuel efficiency.

    When I was still studying in Baguio I was using a bnew Mazda Familia 1.6 AT. My full tank would last only for 4 days in a daily drive of not more than 15Kms albeit mostly uphill. Then drove Isuzu Bighorn, Ford Everest, and now Innova all AT and learned the technique by tinkering on the OD button and releasing the gas pedal and it worked well in increasing fuel efficiency. Driving behavior also counts a lot.

    You may not agree with me but what I was doing on an AT since 1994 works for me. Although I'm heavy built, I always have a light foot on the pedal.

    This link that I've read a long time might help. Myths About Manuel Transmissions Compared To Automatic | AAMCO Colorado

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    By the way, I am not biased with AT, I also drive MT. My 2 cars that I sold this month are both MTs. A Toyota Cressida and a Mitsubishi Lancer. The Cressida has a very comfortable drive and handling but a gas guzzler as well.

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    #7228
    Thanks to all who gave their inputs. Malakas talga sa gas a/t innova, kahit halos napaka light lang ng apak sa gas. Pano pala gamitin yung plus/minus dun?

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    #7229
    Di pa ako paps nakapagdrive ng A/T.

    Palitan nyo sir spark plugs nyo ng iridium, it will help in improving your combustion, therefore mas ramdam nyo yung change sa hatak and mas mabilis ma-reach yung rpm requirement mo.

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    #7230
    Quote Originally Posted by hops View Post
    Thanks to all who gave their inputs. Malakas talga sa gas a/t innova, kahit halos napaka light lang ng apak sa gas. Pano pala gamitin yung plus/minus dun?
    what do you mean by plus/minus sir?

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    #7231
    Another Minor Model Change for the Innova?



    More pictures here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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    #7232
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    facelift na naman. more aggressive looking front grill.

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    #7233
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
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    facelift na naman. more aggressive looking front grill.
    Mukha nga. At sa loob ng 3 years pa. Dahil 2015 (as MY2016) pa ang all new Innova.

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    #7234
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
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    facelift na naman. more aggressive looking front grill.
    Mukha nga. At sa loob ng 3 years pa. Dahil 2015 (as MY2016) pa ang all new Innova.

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    #7235
    At least di pa tayo old model. . .

    Wag lang naka 2.5 d4d VNT yan, o kaya 2.7 dual vvti, madami ma tempt mag upgrade. :-)

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    #7236
    Bakit, nabibitin pa ba kayo sa takbo ng Innova?

    5th gear, at 2,000 RPM tumatakbo na yan at 80km/h, at around 3,000 RPM, nasa 100+ km/h na ano pa hahanapin mo hehehe... VVT-i yan.

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    #7237
    ^

    sa Fort magkakaroon kasi ng up-spec sir.

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    #7238
    Underpowered kasi ang fortuner, san ka ba naman nakakita naganyang kaha eh lagyan ng makina na 2.5 D4D n sakto lang sa innova. At pang palubag loob ay ang wala namang use na hood scoop.

    Isa lang masasabi ko, wala binatbat ang takbo ng fortuner at ng hilux sa montero at strada wahehehe..

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    #7239
    Better power to weight ratio equals better fc

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    #7240
    Quote Originally Posted by shibby75 View Post
    At least di pa tayo old model. . .

    Wag lang naka 2.5 d4d VNT yan, o kaya 2.7 dual vvti, madami ma tempt mag upgrade. :-)
    hindi pa naman tayu old model , peru sana i upgrade ng vnt , bilis siguro ng innova kasi sa aerodynamic at gaan ng kaha kapag naka vnt na


    Quote Originally Posted by siopaonatoasted View Post
    Underpowered kasi ang fortuner, san ka ba naman nakakita naganyang kaha eh lagyan ng makina na 2.5 D4D n sakto lang sa innova. At pang palubag loob ay ang wala namang use na hood scoop.

    Isa lang masasabi ko, wala binatbat ang takbo ng fortuner at ng hilux sa montero at strada wahehehe..
    hindi underpowered 102hp na d4d ,sadyang malalakas lang talaga ang ibang diesel engine kaya feel natin underpowered ang d4d lalo kapag a/t , eh sa palagay ko po kaya makipag sabyan ang vnt d4d sa mga vgt 4d56 did ,

    M/T fortuner ng tropa ko yung nasa picture , kahit nasa 160kph na hindi ganun ma turbo lag para i-achieve ang 200kph, 4500rpm*200kph ,:sweat:


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