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    #3621
    whats the difference between a preowned & secondhand car?

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    #3622
    Quote Originally Posted by Capsaul View Post
    whats the difference between a preowned & secondhand car?
    pre-owned cars are second hand cars that were inspected ( at least 100 point quality assurace inspection checks ) and certified by casa. normally may kasama na extended warranty. parang meron ako nakita toyota bicutan na pre-owned vehicles.

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    #3623
    Quote Originally Posted by Capsaul View Post
    whats the difference between a preowned & secondhand car?
    from a pessimist:
    in truth, it's the same banana. pre-owned cars and secondhand cars are just a play of words that mean the same thing: USED CARS.
    whatever else is implied by the label, is something that may or may not be true or realistic. read and understand the conditions stated in the warranty. let us remember that the main objective of the car seller is to sell the car at a profit.
    caveat emptor, regardless of sartorial elegance...
    my 86 centavos' worth..
    Last edited by dr. d; June 25th, 2012 at 07:35 PM.

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    #3624
    Quote Originally Posted by GLD View Post
    Mga ka innova, mayroon bang may alam kung saan nakakapag-update ng maps sa GPS?

    Thanks..

    GLD

    Hi GLD! Kung gusto mo ng updated map... mag member ka sa Roadguide.Ph and try to contribute data... monthly ang update ng map doon... I'm a member since 2009 and is continuously enjoying the monthly map update.

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    #3625
    Quote Originally Posted by SEALANDER View Post
    Juat had my 1k km PMS sa toyota pasong tamo. Total bill P1745. I asked the SA kung pwede yung factory TVSS alarm pag arm/disarm tutunog din yung busina. Ngayon kasi nag flash lang ang signal light. Hindi daw pwede yun. For models 2005-2009 lang daw yun. Pero sa manual may instruction how to do it. Sa revo ko kasi pag arm/disarm may busina. At pag start pa lang lock na agad. I suppose pareho naman ang alarm nila. Any of you tried activating the answerback feature ng alarm?
    just got our innova a month ago. 2012 Innova E D4D AT. ask ko lang po kung anu pong mga gnagawa nla kpg ngPMS at 1k km. and is it a good choice if i go to Toyota Alabang?

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    #3626
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    from a pessimist:
    in truth, it's the same banana. pre-owned cars and secondhand cars are just a play of words that mean the same thing: USED CARS.
    whatever else is implied by the label, is something that may or may not be true or realistic. read and understand the conditions stated in the warranty. let us remember that the main objective of the car seller is to sell the car at a profit.
    caveat emptor, regardless of sartorial elegance...
    my 86 centavos' worth..
    I could not have said it better, bro...

    Quote Originally Posted by engelpunto View Post
    just got our innova a month ago. 2012 Innova E D4D AT. ask ko lang po kung anu pong mga gnagawa nla kpg ngPMS at 1k km. and is it a good choice if i go to Toyota Alabang?
    Good luck, bro...

    16.0K:dude:

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    #3627
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Good luck, bro...

    16.0K:dude:
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    Why naman? Di ba home of the "Virgin Cars" nga sila? Bitchy service naman ba? haha :D

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    #3628
    I am from LPC, bro.

    But, frankly, I'd rather take my chances in Pasig. Maybe it is just me...

    16.0K:dude:

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    #3629
    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    Why naman? Di ba home of the "Virgin Cars" nga sila? Bitchy service naman ba? haha :D
    are we talking about cars untouched by sira-nikos, or mechanics without experience? heh heh..

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    #3630
    Quote Originally Posted by happymeal View Post
    Normal lang ba na kumakalog left to right ang M/T shifter kung dumadaan sa rough roads? Tapos sa smooth roads ay may slight wiggle sya? Sa Transmission factory kasi ng Mitsubishi dati nag work ang tatay ko at sabi nya ang isang no-no sa kanila ay ang vibrating transmission shifter. Dapat daw ay di ito kumakalog. Sa mga kotse ok naman pero sa innova ang lakas lalo na sa lubak.
    Eto po ang pagkakaiba.

    Innova - Shifter ay directly linked to the transmission, transmission is directly bolted on the engine. Pag pumalag ang engine, papalag din ang shifter.

    Front wheel drive cars - Shifter is cable attached - engine and transmission vibration is eliminated when it goes to the cable.

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    #3631
    Hi Mile2, do you have experience cleaning the MAF? required po ba ito for cleaning? Ano po ang nangyayari pag madumi itong MAF? is it possible na marumi ito without the engine lights ON?

    how much din po ang gastos pag nasa 100,000 kms? Replace V-belts, timing belts and tensioner bearing?

    TY

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    #3632
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Eto po ang pagkakaiba.

    Innova - Shifter ay directly linked to the transmission, transmission is directly bolted on the engine. Pag pumalag ang engine, papalag din ang shifter.

    Front wheel drive cars - Shifter is cable attached - engine and transmission vibration is eliminated when it goes to the cable.
    Thanks Mile2. Excellent explanation.

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    #3633
    Hi, magkano po b bayad s 10k km PMS mineral / fully synthetic oil? And saan po magandang service? Thank u po...

    Saka nga po pala matagal ako umabot ng 5k km kasi ndi ko po masyado gngamet innova..almost 7 months yata from 5km to 10km..

    2010 innova E M/T GAS

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    #3634
    Quote Originally Posted by kristine123 View Post
    Hi Mile2, do you have experience cleaning the MAF? required po ba ito for cleaning? Ano po ang nangyayari pag madumi itong MAF? is it possible na marumi ito without the engine lights ON?

    how much din po ang gastos pag nasa 100,000 kms? Replace V-belts, timing belts and tensioner bearing?

    TY
    If you want to clean the MAF sensor, just spray it with Electronic Contact Cleaner and don't touch it, as it is very fragile the reason why it is enclosed very far from the air hole opening. Just spray a little then let it sit for few minutes then spray a 2nd one to drip the dirt then screw it back on the air intake. Cleaning MAF sensor is not much nescessary as long as you keep good maintenance of your air filter. Usually MAF cleaning is done together with throttle assembly cleaning and with same procedure of just spraying contact cleaner solution.

    Note: Engine malfunction light indicator is not always due to MAF sensor malfunction. You will need an OBD scanner to decode engine malfunction lighted.

    Timing belt - For VVTi there's no timing belt, it has timing chain that would last till your engine drop dead. No timing chain replacement maintenance for VVTi.

    if you're having 100K Kms PMS it would be wise to replace the serpentine belt that drives your fan/alternator/aircon/power steering.
    Last edited by Mile2; June 27th, 2012 at 10:02 AM.

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    #3635
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    If you want to clean the MAF sensor, just spray it with Electronic Contact Cleaner and don't touch it, as it is very fragile the reason why it is enclosed very far from the air hole opening. Just spray a little then let it sit for few minutes then spray a 2nd one to drip the dirt then screw it back on the air intake. Cleaning MAF sensor is not much nescessary as long as you keep good maintenance of your air filter. Usually MAF cleaning is done together with throttle assembly cleaning and with same procedure of just spraying contact cleaner solution.

    Note: Engine malfunction light indicator is not always due to MAF sensor malfunction. You will need an OBD scanner to decode engine malfunction lighted.

    Timing belt - For VVTi there's no timing belt, it has timing chain that would last till your engine drop dead. No timing chain replacement maintenance for VVTi.

    if you're having 100K Kms PMS it would be wise to replace the serpentine belt that drives your fan/alternator/aircon/power steering.
    Well Explained.... thanks very much Sir Mile2.

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    #3636
    Quote Originally Posted by happymeal View Post
    Try mo sa waypoints.ph kung Garmin etc.

    Kung may Nokia phone ka na may GPS like the N8, download mo ang whole philippine roadmap for free (50MB yata) at recommended ko yong female UK voice guidance. Solved ka na. Para ka nang may white and blonde girlfriend na katabi na nagsasabi sa iyo ng
    "at the roundabout, take the second exit"
    "after 300 meters turn right"
    "you have rached your destination"
    Best of all, once installed, no need data connection to navigate, Full offline. Zero charge sa 3G or HSPA data mo.
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    Thanks for the reply bro!

    GLD

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    #3637
    Mga ka-innova, di ba yung upuan sa 3rd row, may parang belt na naka-attach yung hook para masabit natin in case we need the space. Yung sakin kasi, napatid doon sa part ng upuan, di ko tuloy masabit yung upuan.

    May alam ba kayo na gumagawa nito?

    Maraming Salamat!

    GLD

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    #3638
    Quote Originally Posted by Ginnova View Post
    pre-owned cars are second hand cars that were inspected ( at least 100 point quality assurace inspection checks ) and certified by casa. normally may kasama na extended warranty. parang meron ako nakita toyota bicutan na pre-owned vehicles.

    It is somewhat similar to refurbishment in electronics.

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    #3639
    Quote Originally Posted by GLD View Post
    Mga ka-innova, di ba yung upuan sa 3rd row, may parang belt na naka-attach yung hook para masabit natin in case we need the space. Yung sakin kasi, napatid doon sa part ng upuan, di ko tuloy masabit yung upuan.

    May alam ba kayo na gumagawa nito?

    Maraming Salamat!

    GLD
    Any uphostery shop can fix that problem but if your unit is still under warranty its better to bring it to your dealer

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    #3640
    Guys, timing belt ba or chain drive sa mga D4D engines for toyota?

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