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    #9961
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    IMO, that's not exactly the reason for the higher ground clearance...it is because Innova has the independent rigid ladder frame chassis as compared to Carens and GL that has chassis built-in within the body.

    Nakapatong ang body ng Innova sa ladder frame chassis kaya mataas ang clearance. Same construction with pickup trucks and our local jeepneys.

    Old school cars (Isuzu Gemini, Ford Cortina, Camaro, etc.) has rear wheel differential gears like Innova and yet they are lowered simply because of the built-in chassis body.
    I stand corrected. Just realized that the Carens and GL have sedan-like chassis frame construction.

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    #9962
    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    I stand corrected. Just realized that the Carens and GL have sedan-like chassis frame construction.
    Pumasok pala yung una. Nahihirapan akong magaccess dito sa site.

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    #9963
    Quote Originally Posted by Robenson View Post
    But this week I decided to use petron xcs and I really feel the difference. It's easier to move in traffic and I can get 60 km/hr easy without reving to 2k rpm. I think I can get 10 kpl with xcs judging on my few days of testing.

    I realized that our 2.0 is a little bit under powered hence using high octane fuel can help the engine cope with accelaration and improve fuel consumption, in my opinion.
    Do you think sir, shifting to high-octane gas is really helpfull to our engine...But how come they advised (toyota SA) to use only unleaded gasoline.. tsk.tsk.tsk... I just really want the best for my ride. Appreciate comments from the all INNOVA lovers out there..

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    #9964
    all gasoline variants here are unleaded, regardless of the octane rating.

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    #9965
    Here's my take about gasoline octane. The higher the value of octane like 93, the better for the engine to avoid knocking_an untimely detonation of the gasoline inside the cylinder. Knocking is bad for the engine.

    Unleaded gasoline has a lower octane rating than premium but in no way it has less power or less advantages than the premium.

    Unleaded is good enough for the Innova vvt-i.

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    #9966
    Since year 2000, Gasoline sold locally are all unleaded even the premium, it only has additional more additives like combustion cleaner and octane booster. You pay extra engine protection and enhancer on premium unleaded, the cleaner your fuel system and combustion system the better your engine performs and it translate to fuel savings and maintenance cost savings.

    If you look at our engine VVTi, there's a label on the front that says UNLEADED without the octane rating. It means it can use any unleaded type/rating.

    Even the unleaded E10 can be use, but my take on E10...madaling maubos kaya yung savings on the price reduction is nil when you compute Peso/Kms.

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    #9967
    Quote Originally Posted by willvill View Post
    Here's my take about gasoline octane. The higher the value of octane like 93, the better for the engine to avoid knocking_an untimely detonation of the gasoline inside the cylinder. Knocking is bad for the engine.

    Unleaded gasoline has a lower octane rating than premium but in no way it has less power or less advantages than the premium.

    Unleaded is good enough for the Innova vvt-i.
    AFAIK, most regular unleaded (xtra unleaded, shell unleaded, etc..) here are rated at 93 RON, which is more than the minimum required by the vvt-i (91 RON is minimum,if i remember correctly). In some places in the US, they even have 89 RON and etc....

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    #9968
    To Innova owners, meron ba kayong naeexperience na masangsang na amoy galing sa aircon usually pag bagong bukas lang? Parang basang medyas yung amoy niya eh.

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    #9969
    Quote Originally Posted by noobskie View Post
    To Innova owners, meron ba kayong naeexperience na masangsang na amoy galing sa aircon usually pag bagong bukas lang? Parang basang medyas yung amoy niya eh.
    probably may molds sa evaporator mo kaya ganun ang amoy, try switching the thermostat all the way to the left (off) to turn off the compressor, run the blower only for a few minutes to dry off the system. usually this will clear all the unpleasant odors. If not, another step would be to clean your cabin air filter (i think for 07 models above yata meron nito, 05 to 06 models doesn't have a cabin air filter), its located behind the glove compartment.

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    #9970
    Thanks for the comments sirs...

    BTW, I saw already a topic (if i'm not mistaken) on how to handle minor scratches. I can't remember the thread number dami ksi, hwehehe... So, I'll just have to raise another inquiry and hopefully hear from all of you the soonest, nakaka-inis ksi pag nkikita ko. I'm just hoping na mkuha sa level1 (rubbing compound), nevertheless need to seek assistance to someone else. Bka meron kyong alam na scratch remover na as a personal experience, maganda and usefull tlga...TYIA

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    #9971
    [quote=smuiv;1254810]power locks and alarm - 4.5-5.5k sa banawe sa casa 7k ata
    good rims ang tires - trade in mo yung sa J plus 12k+14k
    leather seatcover - 3.5k to 7k
    quote]

    hi, is it 12k-14k total cost for 4 tires? Can u pls share where specifically, name of shop? thanks!

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    #9972
    [quote=ronidux;1256677]
    Quote Originally Posted by smuiv View Post
    power locks and alarm - 4.5-5.5k sa banawe sa casa 7k ata
    good rims ang tires - trade in mo yung sa J plus 12k+14k
    leather seatcover - 3.5k to 7k
    quote]

    hi, is it 12k-14k total cost for 4 tires? Can u pls share where specifically, name of shop? thanks!
    meron sa may west avenue o sa banawe tanong lang dun, alam ko 4 tires my friend got a new rim and tires from a rav 4 (mga iba kasi pag bumili ng bagong car palit agad ng rims and tires trade in nila) , for ony 14k plus yung tires and rims nya.

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    #9973
    1. where can i buy cover-all plastic floor mat?

    2. recommend a bang for the buck spare tire lock? where to buy? (planning to put my spare inside for the meantime)

    3. where to buy nice rims? any recommended size? recommended tires?

    4. cheapest leatherette seatcovers?

    5. side mirror anti-theft, does this really work? where can i get these? etching effective?

    6. recommend a maintenance free battery? worth it?

    7. foglamps cover to resist flood and rain and water spill? how? where to get? wheel well cover?

    8. can i add 2 more speakers for the innova J? is there a provision or there's some still cutting work to do with the doors?

    appreciate it if you could give me areas near alabang and marikina. thanks!

    and

    hey guys wanna have your say with this, will be getting an innova J gas manual, with alarm and fog lamps as freebies, plus the common tint, seatcover, floormat, discount card, and free pms..

    do i still need to haggle more??

    currently haggling on the luggage tray though
    ...

    any inputs fellow innova tsikoteers??

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    #9974
    "Unleaded gasoline has a lower octane rating than premium but in no way it has less power or less advantages than the premium."

    93 octane is in no way has less power than 95 octane?

    yea, right. I bet F1 cars are using 93 octane (or even less) cause it is in "no way" has less power that higher octane gas.

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    #9975
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    #9976
    Quote Originally Posted by Robenson View Post
    "Unleaded gasoline has a lower octane rating than premium but in no way it has less power or less advantages than the premium."

    93 octane is in no way has less power than 95 octane?

    yea, right. I bet F1 cars are using 93 octane (or even less) cause it is in "no way" has less power that higher octane gas.

    Right. 93 octane has same power properties with 95 octane.

    If you mean F1 cars are using 95 octane and not 93 the reason is not about power. The reason is more on the heat generated by the engine due to constant high revving. 95 octane would take longer to ignite than 93.

    If, for the sake of discussion, F1 cars would use 88 octane, most probably there would be untimely detonation or igniting inside the cylinder which would have unsatisfactory result. Untimely detonation refers to the igniting of the fuel within the cylinder even though there's no spark yet from the spark plug.

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    #9977
    Just wanted to share on my take regarding octane rating in gasoline fuel. Normally we use what the dealer recommends since "different cars different strokes" But on Asian cars we dont really care as long as its cost is bearable to our pockets. In my case, I have a corolla 1.3 that I fill up with unleaded fuel, obvioulsy bec of the price and of course..it being UNLEADED. However, once in a while I use a higher octane rating fuel. This in turn will help clean the engine. I learn about this from a relative when I was in the US and its widely used there. I drove an Acura Integra. I fill up between 83 to 88 octane and once every two months 95 to 98 octane. And I continue to use it here. I consider it a good habit duh.

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    #9978
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Since year 2000, Gasoline sold locally are all unleaded even the premium, it only has additional more additives like combustion cleaner and octane booster. You pay extra engine protection and enhancer on premium unleaded, the cleaner your fuel system and combustion system the better your engine performs and it translate to fuel savings and maintenance cost savings.

    If you look at our engine VVTi, there's a label on the front that says UNLEADED without the octane rating. It means it can use any unleaded type/rating.

    Even the unleaded E10 can be use, but my take on E10...madaling maubos kaya yung savings on the price reduction is nil when you compute Peso/Kms.

    Dons*

    As miles points out the premium gasoline which is also unleaded has additional additives as compared to the "unleaded" variety. So your practice of using premium gas from time to time makes sense IMHO

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    #9979
    Quote Originally Posted by Dons23 View Post
    Just wanted to share on my take regarding octane rating in gasoline fuel. Normally we use what the dealer recommends since "different cars different strokes" But on Asian cars we dont really care as long as its cost is bearable to our pockets. In my case, I have a corolla 1.3 that I fill up with unleaded fuel, obvioulsy bec of the price and of course..it being UNLEADED. However, once in a while I use a higher octane rating fuel. This in turn will help clean the engine. I learn about this from a relative when I was in the US and its widely used there. I drove an Acura Integra. I fill up between 83 to 88 octane and once every two months 95 to 98 octane. And I continue to use it here. I consider it a good habit duh.
    Just want to comment on this. I don't think there is a relationship between a fuel's octane rating and ability to clean the engine. A higher octane rating will help prevent detonation (premature combustion) which is not good for an engine. I would love to use higher octane rated fuels (V-power, Blaze) but it is hard on the budget. To help clean my engine, I follow or exceed the PMS requirement, specially on oil changes. Once in while, I drive to the provinces with revs of up to 4000 RPM, which may help in loosening those carbon deposits. More appropriately, the supposed cleaning additives in the fuels may help clean the engine combustion chamber, valves, etc.

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    #9980
    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Just want to comment on this. I don't think there is a relationship between a fuel's octane rating and ability to clean the engine. A higher octane rating will help prevent detonation (premature combustion) which is not good for an engine. I would love to use higher octane rated fuels (V-power, Blaze) but it is hard on the budget. To help clean my engine, I follow or exceed the PMS requirement, specially on oil changes. Once in while, I drive to the provinces with revs of up to 4000 RPM, which may help in loosening those carbon deposits. More appropriately, the supposed cleaning additives in the fuels may help clean the engine combustion chamber, valves, etc.
    Yes, you are right that there's no relationship between octane ratings and cleaning ability. But how Oil Companies positioned their products will make us choose whether we want cheaper or above normal cost of fuels. If you want more fuel enhancer/cleaner you'll find them on premium oil products and you'll have to pay more. It's all about product positioning.

    It is not just about combustion chamber carbon cleanup that would dictate your cars performance. What about your fuel system? can regular unleaded clean your fuel system? I won't hurt a lot if you use premium unleaded like Caltex with Techron once in a while. Just an advice

    Generally, it was E10 we should be worried about since Gasoline stations right now are selling unleaded without the E10 tag, but what they pump in to your tank was E10.

    Toyota Philippines has not yet released any public documents on the E10 compliant vehicles that they have released in the Philippines....sucks really slow even on warranties (I have a warranty claim running 2 months now)

    Honda Philippines website has list of Honda cars that are not E10 compliant, http://www.hondamakati.com.ph/Ver2/N...ubmit=Features

    What's wrong with Toyota Philippines...sleeping on broad daylight!!!
    Last edited by Mile2; June 10th, 2009 at 09:58 AM.

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