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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonub View Post
    Baligtad bro new tires dapat sa rear.
    it depends on the age of the literature that you read.
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonub View Post
    Baligtad bro new tires dapat sa rear.
    it depends on the age of the literature that you read.
    heh heh.

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    Fyi michelin NA suggests you put the 2 new tyres sa rear.

    Ang harap macocontrol mo pa rin kahit papano pero pag nag skid ang likod.. well you do get the idea.

    Ideally 4 na bago, then rotate daw ng pa ekis front-rear left-right para pantay. Kung uni or bi directional ang tyres mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Don't forget that the new tires should be used at the front sir. [emoji4] sa shocks po if you like try to search the no.of chuan lam. It's located sa bagac st. Tondo parallel lang po sa j.abad santos. They are the distributor of KYB shocks here.
    Okay sir. Will do. Malapit nadin ako mag PMS so I'll have it double check nalang din sa SA ng Casa.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonub View Post
    Baligtad bro new tires dapat sa rear.
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it depends on the age of the literature that you read.
    heh heh.

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    it depends on the age of the literature that you read.
    heh heh.
    Quote Originally Posted by unmarked View Post
    Fyi michelin NA suggests you put the 2 new tyres sa rear.

    Ang harap macocontrol mo pa rin kahit papano pero pag nag skid ang likod.. well you do get the idea.

    Ideally 4 na bago, then rotate daw ng pa ekis front-rear left-right para pantay. Kung uni or bi directional ang tyres mo.
    Sa harap ko siya pinalagay for now. I'll buy two more in a week or two para lahat palit na. Do you guys also include yun spare tire sa rotation since same lang naman sila ng stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Don't forget that the new tires should be used at the front sir. [emoji4] sa shocks po if you like try to search the no.of chuan lam. It's located sa bagac st. Tondo parallel lang po sa j.abad santos. They are the distributor of KYB shocks here.
    Okay sir. Will do. Malapit nadin ako mag PMS so I'll have it double check nalang din sa SA ng Casa.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonub View Post
    Baligtad bro new tires dapat sa rear.
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it depends on the age of the literature that you read.
    heh heh.

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    it depends on the age of the literature that you read.
    heh heh.
    Quote Originally Posted by unmarked View Post
    Fyi michelin NA suggests you put the 2 new tyres sa rear.

    Ang harap macocontrol mo pa rin kahit papano pero pag nag skid ang likod.. well you do get the idea.

    Ideally 4 na bago, then rotate daw ng pa ekis front-rear left-right para pantay. Kung uni or bi directional ang tyres mo.
    Sa harap ko siya pinalagay for now. I'll buy two more in a week or two para lahat palit na. Do you guys also include yun spare tire sa rotation since same lang naman sila ng stock?

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    #2544
    Quote Originally Posted by jasonub View Post
    Baligtad bro new tires dapat sa rear.
    Ako po sa front sir. Put your best foot forward. Pag nag fail po yun tire sa front mas delikado lalo na during high speed runs kesa yun rear tire ang sumabog sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiamoyman View Post
    Okay sir. Will do. Malapit nadin ako mag PMS so I'll have it double check nalang din sa SA ng Casa.







    Sa harap ko siya pinalagay for now. I'll buy two more in a week or two para lahat palit na. Do you guys also include yun spare tire sa rotation since same lang naman sila ng stock?

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    Okay sir. Will do. Malapit nadin ako mag PMS so I'll have it double check nalang din sa SA ng Casa.







    Sa harap ko siya pinalagay for now. I'll buy two more in a week or two para lahat palit na. Do you guys also include yun spare tire sa rotation since same lang naman sila ng stock?
    Yes sir i include the spare in rotating my tires every 10k if possible or at the least sa 20k. Sayang kasi kung mag expire na lang yun spare nang halos hindi nagamit.

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    #2546
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Ako po sa front sir. Put your best foot forward. Pag nag fail po yun tire sa front mas delikado lalo na during high speed runs kesa yun rear tire ang sumabog sir.
    Eto din logic na sinabi sa akin ng tatay ko.
    Anung logic jasonub bakit sa rear dapat?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dos2 View Post
    Eto din logic na sinabi sa akin ng tatay ko.
    Anung logic jasonub bakit sa rear dapat?
    Thanks
    ang sabi nila, pag sumabog daw o nawalan ng grip ang rear tire, mas mahirap i control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dos2 View Post
    Eto din logic na sinabi sa akin ng tatay ko.
    Anung logic jasonub bakit sa rear dapat?
    Thanks
    ang sabi nila, pag sumabog daw o nawalan ng grip ang rear tire, mas mahirap i control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Ako po sa front sir. Put your best foot forward. Pag nag fail po yun tire sa front mas delikado lalo na during high speed runs kesa yun rear tire ang sumabog sir.
    rear tires act like the feathers in darts or the fins of bombs and missiles. they keep the projectile (the car) pointed toward the direction of movement. this gives the driver some semblance of control.
    the tendency of drivers attempting to control their cars, is to put on the brakes. and if the front tires have good tread and the rear tires are bald, putting on the brakes may result in the rear skidding to the side and will then try to outrun the front end.
    remember that old adage...? "to regain control of the car, point the front tires in the direction of the skid." well, the assumption of that statement, is that the rear end will remain in the rear, and will not try to outrun the front.

    once the rear wheels start skidding (to the side), it is difficult to regain control of the car.

    remember also, that in today's cars, more of the car weight is on the front tires and less on the rear.. this makes the rear more likely to skid..

    i actually experienced this..
    driving down an underpass one rainy night, there was this stalled vehicle at the bottom. wala siya EWD.. when i saw it, i panic-braked. i got lucky, as my car stopped a yard before i hit it. (wala pa ABS noon..) but i noticed, after i had stopped, that my rear end was already about a foot or two, to the right of my long axis.. and all my tires were in good condition.. what if..

    bottomline... have all your tires in good condition.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 15th, 2015 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    rear tires act like the feathers in darts or the fins of bombs and missiles. they keep the projectile (the car) pointed toward the direction of movement. this gives the driver some semblance of control.
    the tendency of drivers attempting to control their cars, is to put on the brakes. and if the front tires have good tread and the rear tires are bald, putting on the brakes may result in the rear skidding to the side and will then try to outrun the front end.
    remember that old adage...? "to regain control of the car, point the front tires in the direction of the skid." well, the assumption of that statement, is that the rear end will remain in the rear, and will not try to outrun the front.

    once the rear wheels start skidding (to the side), it is difficult to regain control of the car.

    remember also, that in today's cars, more of the car weight is on the front tires and less on the rear.. this makes the rear more likely to skid..

    i actually experienced this..
    driving down an underpass one rainy night, there was this stalled vehicle at the bottom. wala siya EWD.. when i saw it, i panic-braked. i got lucky, as my car stopped a yard before i hit it. (wala pa ABS noon..) but i noticed, after i had stopped, that my rear end was already about a foot or two, to the right of my long axis.. and all my tires were in good condition.. what if..

    bottomline... have all your tires in good condition.
    This true sir. Generally all 4 tires should be road worthy but that is not always the case in real life situations. Most owners will buy 2 tires at a time when that happens you have 2 of your tires new and the other 2 old. Question here is where should you best put your 2 new tires? To the front or at the rear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    This true sir. Generally all 4 tires should be road worthy but that is not always the case in real life situations. Most owners will buy 2 tires at a time when that happens you have 2 of your tires new and the other 2 old. Question here is where should you best put your 2 new tires? To the front or at the rear?
    For me rear, follow the experts nalang lalo na rainy season. This advice covers all kinds of vehicles, whether front, rear, awd or 4x4 capable.

    Most likely scenarios:
    Front wheels are turned pero dumi direcho kasi madulas. Understeer.

    Rear wheels lumiliko kahit gusto dumirecho Oversteer. Sa sobrang liko pwede ka umikot.

    Mas madali i control ang understeer all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unmarked View Post
    For me rear, follow the experts nalang lalo na rainy season. This advice covers all kinds of vehicles, whether front, rear, awd or 4x4 capable.

    Most likely scenarios:
    Front wheels are turned pero dumi direcho kasi madulas. Understeer.

    Rear wheels lumiliko kahit gusto dumirecho Oversteer. Sa sobrang liko pwede ka umikot.

    Mas madali i control ang understeer all day.
    Maybe sir but in my experience as i had a accident long ago. My right rear tire took off from my car. D naayos nun nag vulcanize yun pagkabit and i was running like 80kms i did not spin coz i had control of my steering but only swerved until i stopped. And once also my front left tire blew out on me and boy the steering was heavy and hard to control the car lucky that i was only going about 50kms that time. So with that experience in hand. It's better to blow a rear tire than a front tire sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Maybe sir but in my experience as i had a accident long ago. My right rear tire took off from my car. D naayos nun nag vulcanize yun pagkabit and i was running like 80kms i did not spin coz i had control of my steering but only swerved until i stopped. And once also my front left tire blew out on me and boy the steering was heavy and hard to control the car lucky that i was only going about 50kms that time. So with that experience in hand. It's better to blow a rear tire than a front tire sir.
    Nako sir ung blowouts e mejo unpredictable talaga yan. Lucky you.

    Pero what im saying on the other side is exactly like your 2nd accident. You still have control somewhat kasi na i-i steer ang front e. Pag nag skid yung rear fishtailing na yun. Mas ala kang control dun.

    Havent tried it personally though. Ayaw ko kasi ng pabalik balik so ipon then palit 4 na gulong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unmarked View Post
    Nako sir ung blowouts e mejo unpredictable talaga yan. Lucky you.

    Pero what im saying on the other side is exactly like your 2nd accident. You still have control somewhat kasi na i-i steer ang front e. Pag nag skid yung rear fishtailing na yun. Mas ala kang control dun.

    Havent tried it personally though. Ayaw ko kasi ng pabalik balik so ipon then palit 4 na gulong.
    How can you control sir kung ang may problema is yun steering po? Mas mahirap po control kung front kesa rear. Yan po na experience ko sir. While the rear only follow thru sa direction nang front unless may skid effect because of slippery roads. Unless po kasi ma experience nyo sir d nyo malalaman yun difference between a front blow out at rear blow out po. Sa front po kasi heavy steering na while a likod you won't even feel you lost a wheel agad like sa front ramdam nyo agad iba na takbo nang kotse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    How can you control sir kung ang may problema is yun steering po? Mas mahirap po control kung front kesa rear. Yan po na experience ko sir. While the rear only follow thru sa direction nang front unless may skid effect because of slippery roads. Unless po kasi ma experience nyo sir d nyo malalaman yun difference between a front blow out at rear blow out po. Sa front po kasi heavy steering na while a likod you won't even feel you lost a wheel agad like sa front ramdam nyo agad iba na takbo nang kotse.
    Sir diko naman kayo pini pilit. Nagtanong po kayo, nagbigay ako ng expert opinion (from michelin) a few posts back that I agree with, and that is rear daw. You can watch youtube din.. napanuod ko na kasi. I mentioned skidding, and I also mentioned rainy season earlier. Ayaw ko ma experience yung na experience nyo, so susundin ko ang opinion ni tire maker. I guess we can agree to disagree and move on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unmarked View Post
    Sir diko naman kayo pini pilit. Nagtanong po kayo, nagbigay ako ng expert opinion (from michelin) a few posts back that I agree with, and that is rear daw. You can watch youtube din.. napanuod ko na kasi. I mentioned skidding, and I also mentioned rainy season earlier. Ayaw ko ma experience yung na experience nyo, so susundin ko ang opinion ni tire maker. I guess we can agree to disagree and move on...
    Yes sir i'm just explaining my experience to you sir and not implying that you have that experience too. I understand your position. Hope there's no harm done sir. Thank you!

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    Sirs, pansin ko na medyo matigas na yung clutch pedal ko. Nangangawit tuloy left leg ko kapag babad sa traffic. Paano po ba ma adjust o maayos yung clutch pedal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocoy_g View Post
    Sirs, pansin ko na medyo matigas na yung clutch pedal ko. Nangangawit tuloy left leg ko kapag babad sa traffic. Paano po ba ma adjust o maayos yung clutch pedal?
    wear and tear po.
    replacing "worn components" inside the transmission housing, will probably revert the lightness and smoothness of the pedal to as brand new.
    but it won't be cheap. labor alone, to open 'er up, is already expensive.

    but try to see if the pedal needs lubrication first, before thinking of the trans. it might do enough to soften up the pedal.

    if the car uses a clutch cable, replacing it with a new one may soften the pedal.
    but if the car uses hydraulics for the clutch, as i suspect toyota does, pedal lubrication and transmission components replacement lang ang choices, po.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 20th, 2015 at 09:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocoy_g View Post
    Sirs, pansin ko na medyo matigas na yung clutch pedal ko. Nangangawit tuloy left leg ko kapag babad sa traffic. Paano po ba ma adjust o maayos yung clutch pedal?
    Most likely you have to replace your clutch set. If its still original. Worn out pressure plate,clutch disc and release bearing. But first try to bleed your system before going to the transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocoy_g View Post
    Sirs, pansin ko na medyo matigas na yung clutch pedal ko. Nangangawit tuloy left leg ko kapag babad sa traffic. Paano po ba ma adjust o maayos yung clutch pedal?
    Usually that's the issue with Toyota Corollas and the Vios. In our case, we replaced the clutch to aftermarket AISIN (which is an OEM supplier for Jap brands), and the clutch would be much lighter than the original clutch.

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