List of Toyota D4D Probems (Choking, Hard Starting, etc.)

[Terrence]

Ask ko lang po if any one of you who uses fully synthetic oil on their D4D and how often do you change the oil every 10,000km ba? while the oil filter evry 5,000km. I feel hesitant kasi baka makasama sa engine yung ganun. I learned kasi sa gas pwede evry 10,000 ang interval sa change oil, sa D4D pwede din kaya. thanks

[dandang]

Ask ko lang po if any one of you who uses fully synthetic oil on their D4D and how often do you change the oil every 10,000km ba? while the oil filter evry 5,000km. I feel hesitant kasi baka makasama sa engine yung ganun. I learned kasi sa gas pwede evry 10,000 ang interval sa change oil, sa D4D pwede din kaya. thanks

My brother just bought an Innova G last week. I should have told him about this thread if only I saw this thread earlier. Anyway I just hope this Crdi thing with toyota does not happen to him. I drove his Innova and compared it to my Grand starex Crdi VGT and guess what? With the same engine displacement the Starex can easily beat the Innova in power and acceleration with its 170hp (not sure what the hp rating of the innova). The Innova lags in power compared to the GS considering the innova has a smaller body.

By the way the sales rep of Toyota Pasong tamo told him not to use fully synthetic for the engine sabi nakakasira daw. Not really sure whats the logic.

[Horsepower]

Innova G is 102hp. Bakit naman daw makakasira ang Synthetic? loko loko na sales rep yun ah.

[CVT]

I thought that the issue with Toyota's D4D is already water under the bridge?

Last January, our family and my sister's family went up to Baguio. From full tanks, and going up to Baguio fully loaded (and together on the road all the time), our Starex TCI A/T had only 2/8 (or 1/4) fuel, while my sister's Innova D4D M/T still has 5/8 fuel left. Just goes to show the efficiency of the D4D engine. And they never encountered any choking issue with their ride....

7606:mobile1:

[xscape]

Innova G is 102hp. Bakit naman daw makakasira ang Synthetic? loko loko na sales rep yun ah.

hehe lakas nang tama nang sales rep na yun ha..

[number001]

Innova G is 102hp. Bakit naman daw makakasira ang Synthetic? loko loko na sales rep yun ah.

Isn't that 102 PS instead? And not HP?

[auto_fanatic]

I thought that the issue with Toyota's D4D is already water under the bridge?

Last January, our family and my sister's family went up to Baguio. From full tanks, and going up to Baguio fully loaded (and together on the road all the time), our Starex TCI A/T had only 2/8 (or 1/4) fuel, while my sister's Innova D4D M/T still has 5/8 fuel left. Just goes to show the efficiency of the D4D engine. And they never encountered any choking issue with their ride....

7606:mobile1:

Hi, is the D4D Choking Problem, Hard Starting, and/or Black Smoke Emission limited only to the 2.5 engine? Does the 3.0 D4D engine encounter the same problems like choking, hard starting, and/or black smoke emission.

[number001]

Hi, is the D4D Choking Problem, Hard Starting, and/or Black Smoke Emission limited only to the 2.5 engine? Does the 3.0 D4D engine encounter the same problems like choking, hard starting, and/or black smoke emission.

There has been reports in other forums and threads about the 3.0 1KD-FTV being affected also. But that was back in 2006-2007. So far there are new reports, AFAIK.

[odie vti]

hi guys lately lang ako naging member ng tsikot.com and ive been reading this thread cuz i own a 2006 Hiace Commuter 2.5 D4D CRDi (2KD-FTV engine).... share ko lang that as early as 2007 with around 12,000kms nagkaproblema sa hard starting... after turning the key, mamamatay engine kaagad.... pero if you depress accelerator pedal after starting (para saluhin makina) and release after 5-10 seconds, mag normalize na siya at idles okay. brought it to the casa (toyota commonwealth) for diagnosis... its not the fuel pump or injectors or filter.... problem source was the ECU. It would not supply enough fuel to the engine when starting, and this is not a fuel pump problem but ECU function thats problematic. I waited 3 weeks for an ECU replacement... ok na siya afterwards. As per service advisor, its the 5th Hiace they've done with the same problem... and this was way back in 2007. BTW, ECU was replaced free under warranty but as per invoice,it costs 40k... now that my warranty is over... im worried with the Hiace... so far so good pa naman...

i chose the Hiace over a Starex kasi toyota nga... supposedly reliable and troublefree... saka the Hiace is CBU Japan pa naman.... tsktsk...

have had other warranty claims na rin (not engine related) with the front and rear suspension... but that's another story... nakaka worth 200k in warranty claims na ako....

hope nakatulong post ko...if your D4D engine has hard time starting, it could be the ECU.

[rexyboi]

Isn't that 102 PS instead? And not HP?

sir its almost the same

1 hp = 1.01 ps

[crayz]

only 3.0 D4d has a catalytic converter installed, wala sa 2.5 D4d as per my Sales Rep.

[Mile2]

only 3.0 D4d has a catalytic converter installed, wala sa 2.5 D4d as per my Sales Rep.

Go back to your sales representative and tell him/her that it was a misinformation.

Read this thread HELP!!! My innova D4D Black smoke- pls Help!!! on how they tried to solve the problem by replacing also the catalytic converter on Innova 2.5 D4d.

[C24]

the engine supports of my d4d a/t were replaced because every time the engine is started, there's a clunk/thud coming from them. it seems they're too soft such that there's metal-to-metal contact. but after a day or two, the sound came back. sent it back to toyota ortigas but the diagnosis was "talagang ganya po and design". i checked a friend's innova and hilux but they start without a thud, have you experienced this in your innova?

over the past month, there's a squeek coming from the turbo area. this appears after driving a few kilometers. but strangely when the engine is switched off and started again it disappears. hopefully there's nothing wrong with the turbocharger. the sound doesn't come from the serpentine belt nor the a/c compressor. has anyone exprerienced this?

my mileage is 29,600km, 2 yrs old.

tia

[lord]

Has anyone tried to avail of the services of calibrating shops/companies to address D4D-related problems or to avail tune-up services for D4D engines? I've confirmed from my SA that casa/Toyota do not offer calibrating services.

I've read in this forum some famous ones such us:
- Betan in Makati
- Central Diesel in QC

I've also researched in the internet and came across the website of Philippines Auto Components: http://www.denso.com.ph. PAC is DENSO Philippine subsidiary based on the site. From this site, I found the numerous service network that I have to verify them from my SA. He confirmed that Crown Common Rail Diesel Center, Inc. is one of the accredited shops by Denso and that Toyota branches like Marikina, Cubao etc. do not offer calibrating services.Hanggang re-programming at modular replacement lang ata ang casa.

Please share your comments.

[Dons23]

hello to all. Am new here. Just want to share that my dad's innova of 3 years J D4d variant has experienced hard starting problems. Prior to this...compressor problem. Casa replaced the compressor free of charged considering warranty has already lapsed. Having gone thru this forum..I saw the problem of my dad's innova on the hard-starting issue...will insist casa to replace the fuel supply and the whole CRDI system. Problem now is how to convinced to get them free after warranty has already expired just 3 weeks ago. Thank you and keep on posting.

[Trebuchet]

hello to all. Am new here. Just want to share that my dad's innova of 3 years J D4d variant has experienced hard starting problems. Prior to this...compressor problem. Casa replaced the compressor free of charged considering warranty has already lapsed. Having gone thru this forum..I saw the problem of my dad's innova on the hard-starting issue...will insist casa to replace the fuel supply and the whole CRDI system. Problem now is how to convinced to get them free after warranty has already expired just 3 weeks ago. Thank you and keep on posting.

I think you could still avail of that warranty even if the warranty had already expired... [SIZE=5]IF[/SIZE] you reported the hard starting issue to casa before and that they have it on file. Pwede mo kasi i-haggle na may history na siya before na ganyan.

That's just MHO sir.

[t@n0d]

I think you could still avail of that warranty even if the warranty had already expired... [SIZE=5]IF[/SIZE] you reported the hard starting issue to casa before and that they have it on file. Pwede mo kasi i-haggle na may history na siya before na ganyan.

That's just MHO sir.

I agree with Trebuchet. If you have a record with any Toyota Casa, you can ask and haggle for warranty. If none, that's the problem. It might be difficult to convince them of warranty claims. I asked this before from 1 SA from Makati. Mabigat talaga ang cost if outside warranty. Butas ang bulsa mo for repairs...

[Dons23]

Thank you very much guys. I will post as soon as I get any feedback from my dad. AS for my new Innova, everytime I go for PMS, I will include those troubles one at a time even wala pang trouble para lang may history..haha.

[altec]

guys, the d4d engine has a very high cranking demand from the battery.
Thus you cant use just any brand of n50 battery. When I had mine replaced, had so much problems, replaced with Outlast, at first using their 15 month warranty battery, then replaced it with their 20 month warranty. Both CCA (cold cranking ampere) came up short. Its Oriental and Motolite, or even the Korean brand Rocket, which have compact battery with high CCA, amp/hours levels. As expected, more expensive than the other batteries in the market.

[Dons23]

Hi. update ko lang un Innov J Diesel ng dad ko. So far the casa have not replied on the warranty. However, the Innova seemed to be ok. It havnt had any hard starting issues anymore. iT seemed that evrything was back to normal. But I advise my dad when the casa's customer service calls, have it repaired so as not to have future problems with it. On my Innova naman..I missed the 1000 PMS. Im now at around 3400 na, I am planning to bring it in sa 5000. anybody has this experience..please share. thanks