Usapang Boxing Thread

[chua_riwap]

^^ Talagang ganyan. First loss lang naman nya yan at 19 yo lang siya.
Dapat ata, magpalit siya ng trainers nya.

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Great article from The Ring website.
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1700/panc...filipino_icon/

Pancho Villa: The original Filipino icon

There have been three great Filipino prizefighters in the modern history of boxing.

One, Manny Pacquiao, will face Joshua Clottey next week in an attempt to add to his already-burgeoning legend and legacy. He is likely to succeed.

Another is Gabriel “Flash” Elorde, who fought the world’s better junior lightweights in the 1960s and was world champion for seven years. Dead for a quarter century, he remains a national icon in the Philippines, where heroes are not readily forgotten.

The third is Francisco Guilledo, the first Filipino world champion, who the Asian world and the fight game’s old heads remember as Pancho Villa, and without whom the other two might not be known at all.

That Villa died at the age of 23 and at the apparent apex of his powers as the flyweight world champion puts him in the same sad league as Salvador Sanchez, Harry Greb and Stanley Ketchel, other ring greats whose lives and careers were not permitted the luxury of winding down painfully and slowly, as do so many others. You wonder who has it better.

At any rate, Guilledo, who in 1994 was inducted later than he should have been into the International Boxing Hall of Fame, was born in Ilog, Negros Occidental on Aug. 1, 1901.

As a kid Guilledo was good with his fists and enjoyed using them. Kids like that never stay a secret for very long and soon he had acquired the attention of a pair of older boxing figures in Frank Churchill and Pacquito Villa. Together they managed his fortunes.

History is unclear as to which of the men convinced him to fight under the name Pancho Villa, but by any name he did such good work in the Philippines that by 1922 he was invited by Tex Rickard – the Don King of the 1920s, if you like – to fight in the United States.

Villa, whose career record is 76-5-5 (23 knockouts) with 23 no-decisions, accepted the invitation and fought frequently – nine fights in -‘22 alone – and with mixed results: no-decisions against Abe Goldstein and Frankie Genaro, wins over Battling Murray and Johnny Hepburn, another loss to Genaro. But his relentless, all-action style made him enormously popular.

In a preview of his 11-round knockout of Johnny Buff for the American flyweight title, the New York Times reported: “Villa enjoys wide popularity among local boxing enthusiasts. In his local bouts the Philippine boxer has demonstrated remarkable ability, and his cleverness, speed and hitting prowess have gained him many local admirers.”

A report of the fight the next day was equally complimentary and also spoke to Villa’s style.

“The new champion impressed the large crowd with his victory. Popular in the extreme prior to the battle, Villa added many new admirers to his legion of friends through the workmanlike manner in which he attained the title.

“The oriental champion was the master throughout,” reported The Times. “Villa was like a beast of the jungle suddenly unleashed on his prey … the little Filipino flyweight was on Buff in a jiffy, battering the defending champion around the ring and gradually wearing Buff down to a state of utter helplessness.”

The win over Buff got Villa a shot at the legendary flyweight champion Jimmy Wilde, who most historians recognize as the greatest flyweight ever, as well as the best fighter Great Britian has ever produced.

But before meeting Wilde, Villa lost again to Genaro. He got the title shot anyway, due primarily to the nature of the loss. The decision was so controversial it moved editor Nat Fleischer to pen a column in the April 1923 issue of THE RING entitled “Time to Eliminate Judges.”

The title fight with Wilde, which was scheduled for June 16 at New York’s Polo Grounds, represented a comeback of sorts for the champion. He’d been inactive for two years, and, at age 31, was past his peak.

Nevertheless, the bout did brisk business: Paid attendance was more than 40,000, and even that was a disappointment to the promoters, who had expected a sellout.

Fans of Wilde saw their hope for victory crushed early. Writing for THE RING, R.B. Cozens reported, “A punch, landed on Wilde at the end of the second round after the bell had sounded, dropped Jimmy and it was the turning point of the battle. … The blow ended whatever chances Wilde had against his aggressive opponent. Jimmy had to be pushed out for the third round, and from then to the finish he took a severe beating.”

Villa thrashed Wilde until referee Patsy Haley stopped it in the seventh round. At just 21 years old, Villa was world champion.

“It was just as I expected, but I don’t want to crow over the victory,” Villa said afterward. “Jimmy Wilde was the gamest little fighter I ever met, and I’ve fought quite a few. Not one fighter in a hundred would have come back after that sixth round, and I was surprised to see him try it. But it proved he was one of the best and I have nothing but admiration for him.”

The Times gushed. “The rise of Pancho Villa, the new flyweight champion of the world, has been little short of meteoric.”

Such was the severity of the beating that some months later Wilde revealed, “I do not recall being knocked out, nor a single thing that happened until, one day three weeks afterwards, I found myself in a little seaside bungalow some distance from New York.”

Villa defended the title four times over the next two years, mixing in a number of non-title fights. While preparing for a July 1925 non-title fight against future Hall of Famer Jimmy McClarnin, he had a dentist remove one of his wisdom teeth. The abscess became swollen and he was advised not to fight. He went against McLarnin anyway, and lost a 10-round decision.

“It was a tough fight,” McLarnin told writer Peter Heller in 1970. “On the inside he kept hitting me on the ears. He was a great infighter. I wound up with two black ears. I heard of people winding up with black eyes, but I wound up with two black ears. He was a great little fighter.”

Following the fight Villa had three more teeth extracted and was found to have a serious infection at the site of the original extraction. Over the following week the infection worsened.

His trainer, Whitey Ekwert, found him in such a state that he took him to a local hospital, where Dr. C.E. Hoffman scheduled surgery to relieve swelling in Villa’s throat that was caused by the infection.

The operation never took place. Villa “suffocated under the anesthetic” while being prepared for surgery, Dr. Hoffman told the press. Attempts to revive him failed. He was dead at 24.

Villa, whom in 2002 THE RING called one of the 80 best fighters of the last 80 years, was eulogized by The National Sports Alliance, a short-lived, New York-based body formed purportedly to protect and enhance boxing and wrestling.

“The champion died fighting a man’s fight,” said James J. Johnston, the group’s spokesman. “Villa was a credit to boxing, and the game cannot afford to lose such men.”

Manny Pacquiao, like Flash Elorde before him, is in very good company.

I remember growing up and my grandmother and parents mentioning Pancho Villa along with Flash Elorde when great Pinoy boxers were discussed. Just imagine Pancho Villa had over 100 fights by the time of his death, Pacman only has 55 and he is in his 30's. But the story shows that the Pinoy fighters always attacked their opponent, think back to Pacman's fights before the lost to Morales and the draw to Marquez before learning to control his aggression.

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double post

[AnK]

nilalangaw yun PPV ng Pacquiao vs Clottey.

[tsupermario]

[SIZE="2"]The Biggest Little Man in the World[/SIZE]

interesting read, from chavit to manny's minions to aling dionisia.

[chua_riwap]

Talo si Julaton...........

[FullThrottle]

Tsk tsk, what a waste.


[SIZE=4]Ex-boxing champ Valero found dead[/SIZE]

From: <www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk>

Monday, 19 April 2010

Ex-boxing champ Edwin Valero has killed himself in jail after being arrested in connection with his wife’s killing.
Former boxing champ Edwin Valero has committed suicide in his jail cell just hours after he was arrested as part of an investigation into his wife's killing, police said.

The former lightweight champion used his own clothes to hang himself in his cell early on Monday, Venezuelan Federal Police Chief Wilmer Flores told reporters.

He said Valero tied his clothes to a cell bar to hang himself.

He said Valero was found by another inmate, who alerted authorities in the police cell in north-central Carabobo state.

Valero still showed signs of life, but they were unable to save him, Flores said.

The 28-year-old was detained on Sunday on suspicion of killing his wife, the gravest in a string of problems that had threatened to derail his career.

Prosecutors said they had planned to charge Valero in the killing.


Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/world/exboxing-champ-valero-found-dead-14772671.html#ixzz0lYG1acUz

[Zeus]

Tsk tsk, what a waste.


[SIZE=4]Ex-boxing champ Valero found dead[/SIZE]

From: <www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk>

Monday, 19 April 2010

Ex-boxing champ Edwin Valero has killed himself in jail after being arrested in connection with his wife’s killing.
Former boxing champ Edwin Valero has committed suicide in his jail cell just hours after he was arrested as part of an investigation into his wife's killing, police said.

The former lightweight champion used his own clothes to hang himself in his cell early on Monday, Venezuelan Federal Police Chief Wilmer Flores told reporters.

He said Valero tied his clothes to a cell bar to hang himself.

He said Valero was found by another inmate, who alerted authorities in the police cell in north-central Carabobo state.

Valero still showed signs of life, but they were unable to save him, Flores said.

The 28-year-old was detained on Sunday on suspicion of killing his wife, the gravest in a string of problems that had threatened to derail his career.

Prosecutors said they had planned to charge Valero in the killing.


Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/world/exboxing-champ-valero-found-dead-14772671.html#ixzz0lYG1acUz

Oo nga, siya yung sinasabi ni Pacman na mukhang tricycle driver dati at isa rin nakapila para lumaban kay Pacman sana...

[claRkEnt]

IIRC, sya yung ayaw bigyan ng permit sa US dahil may "tama sa ulo".... meron nga pala...

[_Qwerty_]

malupet ang record nito.. 27-0 all by KO or TKO.. sayang..

[fourtheboys96]

malupet ang record nito.. 27-0 all by KO or TKO.. sayang..

ito ang tunay na record niya sabi sa boxing forums

27-0, 27KOs, 1 murder, 1 suicide

or pwede din 28-1

[Isuzoom]

nakapuna na yan dito sa beerday ni pacman sa gen. san....iba talaga pag may metal ang ulo mo..

[foresterx]

malupet ang record nito.. 27-0 all by KO or TKO.. sayang..

ma ganda nga record kaso mga kalaban naman nya mga nobody. ilaban mo nga yan kay bobby pacquiao talo yan. he's not on the same level as pacquiao, kahit nga kila marquez and hatton pag lalaroan lang yan.

[_Qwerty_]

he used to be lightweight champion.. kung nakalaban ni Bobby to.. baka di tumagal nang 2 rounds si Bobby.. kahit si Pacman mahihirapan dito kay Valero.. have you seen his fights?

ma ganda nga record kaso mga kalaban naman nya mga nobody. ilaban mo nga yan kay bobby pacquiao talo yan. he's not on the same level as pacquiao, kahit nga kila marquez and hatton pag lalaroan lang yan.

[Zeus]

ito ang tunay na record niya sabi sa boxing forums

27-0, 27KOs, 1 murder, 1 suicide

or pwede din 28-1

Ok ito a

[chua_riwap]

Siya ba yung sinabihan ni Pacman, na kaya clean slate pa ang record nya, kasi puro patsies daw ang nakakalaban, puro mga "tricycle drivers"?

[Ma^ride]

Di bale marami pa sya makakalaban doon. Boksing na lang sila ni Gabriel Flash Elorde, tiyak blockbuster yun sa kabilang buhay

[Zeus]

At last Shogun Rua prove to be the better fighter

Rua stuns Machida in UFC 113

abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 05/09/2010 4:13 PM | Updated as of 05/09/2010 4:14 PM
MANILA, Philippines – Lyoto “The Dragon” Machida suffered his first career loss by knockout in the hands of eventual Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) light heavyweight champion Mauricio “Shogun” Rua in UFC 113 on Saturday (Sunday in Manila).
According to UFC.com, Rua stunned Machida with the KO at 3:35 of Round 1. He finally got back at Machida for his UFC 104 loss last October via unanimous decision.
“Shogun” improved his record to 19 wins and 4 losses while Machida now has 16 wins and 1 defeat.
The two light heavyweights slugged it out in the main event held at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Canada.
Meanwhile, Josh “Kos” Koscheck edged Paul “Semtex” Daley by unanimous decision. Koscheck now has 17 wins and 4 losses while Daley has a 23-9-2 record.
Sam “Hands of Stone” Stout (16-6-1), meantime, lost to Jeremy “Lil' Heathen” Stephens (18-5) by split decision.
Matt Mitrione remained undefeated at 2-0 by scoring a technical knockout victory over Kimbo Slice (4-2) at 4:24 of Round 2.
Alan “The Talent” Belcher (15-5) and Joe “El Dirte” Doerksen (40-12) eked out wins via submission.
Belcher defeated Patrick “The Predator” Cote (14-6) by submission (other) at 3:25 of Round 2 while Doerksen beat Tom “Filthy” Lawlor (6-3-0, 1 no contest) by submission (choke) at 2:10 of Round 2.
Other matches in UFC 113: Machida vs. Shogun 2 resulted in Marcus “The Irish Hand Grenade” Davis (22-7) beating Jonathan “The Road Warrior” Goulet (22-11-1) by TKO and Johny Hendricks (8-0) trouncing TJ Grant (15-4) via majority decision.
Joey “The Mexecutioner” Beltran (12-3) and Mike “The Joker” Guymon (13-3-1) posted unanimous decision victories over Tim “The Thrashing Machine” Hague (10-4) and Yoshiyuki “Zenko” Yoshida (11-5), respectively.
John Salter (5-1), meanwhile, kicked things off, with a TKO stoppage (referee) at 2:42 of Round 1 over Jason “The Athlete” MacDonald (22-13).

[tsupermario]

at last the shogun of old emerged! next fight for him is the winner of evans vs. rampage. if shogun does not improve his take down defense, he'll have a hard time beating evans (assuming evans gets by rampage). it'll be a replay of gegard mousasi vs. king mo lawal

[Zeus]

Evans wins via unanimous decision

UFC 114: Evans silences Rampage by unanimous decision

abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 05/30/2010 3:04 PM | Updated as of 05/30/2010 3:25 PM


MANILA, Philippines – The sold-out crowd at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada was treated to a mixed martial arts (MMA) spectacle in UFC 114 on Saturday (Sunday in Manila), with 7 of the 11 matches ending via decision.
In the main event, “Suga” Rashad Evans snuffed out Quinton “Rampage” Jackson in 3 rounds, silencing his rival by unanimous decision.
The former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) light heavyweight champions clashed at the MGM Grand Garden Arena at the onset of Memorial Day Weekend.
ABS-CBN North America News Bureau Bev Llorente reported that Evans took control early in the fight. He continued to wear out Jackson, taking him down and eventually dominating the fight.
Evans now has 20 wins, 1 loss and 1 draw while Jackson has 30 wins and 8 losses.
Prior to the fight, several Pinoy MMA fans told ABS-CBN News that they were rooting for Jackson because of his signature clinch takedown and clinch strike. Other Pinoys wanted Evans to win because of his defensive tactics.
Bisping, Nogueira win
According to UFC.com, British Michael “The Count” Bisping (20-3) scored a unanimous decision win over Dan Miller (11-4, 1 no contest) while Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (19-3) overcame Jason “Hitman” Brilz (18-3-1) via split decision.
Mike Russow (13-1-0, 1 NC) dealt Todd Duffee’s first loss (6-1) with a knockout at 2:35 of Round 3.
Other unanimous decision wins were posted by John Hathaway, Dong Hyun Kim, Efrain Escudero and Aaron Riley over Diego Sanchez, Amir Sadollah, Dan Lauzon and Joe Brammer, respectively.
Melvin Guillard, Cyrille Diabate and Ryan Jensen, on the other hand, scored quick wins in the opening round of their matches.
Guillard knocked out Waylon Lowe at 3:28, Diabate won over Luiz Cane via technical knockout at 2:13, and Jensen prevailed over Jesse Forbes by submission (choke) at 1:06. – With reports from UFC.com and Bev Llorente, ABS-CBN North America News Bureau