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    #19021
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    tingin ko they won't reserve a 2nd dose for you if you avail of the 1st dose

    ung ganyan kaselan na vaccine di tinatago nang matagal dapat gamitin agad

    ung 2nd dose mo will come from a new batch and it's your responsibility to show up for the 2nd dose
    Yan ang problema. With millions wanting to be vaccinated, most won't even get their 1st dose in 3 weeks upon the vaccine's availability. So malabo na makuha yung 2nd dose in 3 weeks. Unless you are ultra powerful person, or may connection ka, you can skip the line to get the 2nd dose.

    Or unless the 2nd dose have a different formulation from the 1st dose.
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    #19022
    uwi mo nalang yung 2nd dose bahala ka na sa storage

    a typical ref freezer is way below freezing

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    #19023
    assuming the 1st and 2nd dose are exactly the same...

    it will be unethical that those who get their 1st dose will have their 2nd dose stored while others don't get the 1st dose

    i mean like may dumating 10,000 vials

    so para sa 5,000 people lang yan?

    you can vaccinate 10,000 people and wait for the next batch (2nd dose)
    Last edited by uls; November 10th, 2020 at 12:37 PM.

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    #19024
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Yan ang problema. With millions wanting to be vaccinated, most won't even get their 1st dose in 3 weeks upon the vaccine's availability. So malabo na makuha yung 2nd dose in 3 weeks. Unless you are ultra powerful person, or may connection ka, you can skip the line to get the 2nd dose.

    Or unless the 2nd dose have a different formulation from the 1st dose.
    yup magiging palakasan yan

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    #19025
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    uwi mo nalang yung 2nd dose bahala ka na sa storage

    a typical ref freezer is way below freezing
    You need to store it way way below the capability of your home freezer for the vaccine to last more than 15 days. Sino may ganyang freezer sa bahay?
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    #19026
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    uwi mo nalang yung 2nd dose bahala ka na sa storage

    a typical ref freezer is way below freezing
    The vaccine requires -70 degC. may freezer ganun kababa?

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    #19027
    about 15yrs ago i made a TEC-based (peltier) cooler to achieve 1ghz. it's not hard to achieve minus 70, especially for something that's not heat-generating. you probably just have to use multiple stages. that's the great thing about TECs you can stack them. refrigerant based cooling can't do that

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    #19028
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The new vaccine is a German drug developed in cooperation with Pfizer. Germany gave aid grants to Biontech, while Trump didn't give a single penny.

    Germany awards €750m to BioNTech and CureVac for Covid-19 vaccines

    Pfizer and BioNTech Announce an Agreement with U.S. Government for up to 6 Million Doses of mRNA-based Vaccine Candidate Against SARS-CoV-2 | Pfizer


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    #19029
    Brazil Halts China Vaccine Trial After Serious Adverse Event - Bloomberg

    Mauna na talaga si duterte


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    #19030
    A funding grant is different from a purchase order... Duhhh...

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    #19031
    anyway di dapat tayo ma-excite diyan dahil malabo magkaroon dito niyan

    kung anong quantity ma-produce nila sigurado may buyer na

    hintayin nalang natin si Sputnik

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    #19032
    Bakit walang generals? Pano nila huhulihin ang COVID?



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    #19033
    Citizen's arrest

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    #19034
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Bakit walang generals? Pano nila huhulihin ang COVID?



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    if Leni Robredo is president she'll do what Biden did

    Leni is PH Biden

    Last edited by uls; November 10th, 2020 at 03:32 PM.

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    #19035
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if Leni Robredo is president she'll do what Biden did

    Leni is PH Biden

    Shhhh you'll trigger the Anti-Trump DDS

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    #19036
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Bakit walang generals? Pano nila huhulihin ang COVID?



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    WTF!? Anong klase yan? Bakit puro doctors and scientist!?? Booo! [emoji1361]

    Hinde mabaril yun veerus


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    #19037
    Palakasan talaga since kulang for sure ang vaccine.

    But later on, if you pay, you get two. It's s stupidity if they don't reserve the other for you unless in the contract it is stated na if you miss your next scheduled shot, the vial can be given to another paying customer. Win-win given the situation.

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    #19038
    For real? Flu vaccine nga ang mahal mahal



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    #19039
    Dr. Richard Mata
    Breaking NEWS! PFIZER COVID 19 VACCINE!

    Malaking breakthrough po ang 90% effectiveness sa 3rd clinical trial dahil 44,000 po ang participants.

    Ang sabi raw ay magsisimula na sila ngayong taon para sa mass vaccination.

    Magandang balita po yan.

    Please click and subscribe to my YouTube channel for latest updates: Good News! Pfizer vaccine is 90% effective laban sa Covid 19! - YouTube

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    #19040
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    assuming the 1st and 2nd dose are exactly the same...

    it will be unethical that those who get their 1st dose will have their 2nd dose stored while others don't get the 1st dose

    i mean like may dumating 10,000 vials

    so para sa 5,000 people lang yan?

    you can vaccinate 10,000 people and wait for the next batch (2nd dose)
    if the second dose is not reserved, the immunity achieved by the first dose alone would probably be half-baked. the person may still get infected. parang hindi siya nabakunahan.

    if you reserve 200 shots for 100 people, you get 100 adequately immunized people.

    if you use the 200 shots to immunize 200 people, you might end up with 200 people who are still capable of getting infected by covid. sayang lang.

    but i am just assuming here.
    the manufacturer hasn't yet (?) announced what the effect will be, if one is given only one of two requisite doses.

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