China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dr. d]

gusto ng mga doctor swab test lang huwag na rapid test

ang problema mahal ang swab test and results take days to come out

by the same token,
being tested negative by pcr today,
does not mean one will still be negative (not infected) next week.

that's the problem with pandemic.

[yebo]

^^

ang nangyayari ganito...

companies use rapid antibody test to check their employees

pag nag positive sa antibodies, doon lang pinapa-swab test for confirmation

mga nag negative sa antibodies hindi pinapa-swab

pero the thing is, pag negative sa antibodies hindi necessarily wala virus

maari meron virus pero di pa nag develop ng antibodies

that's what's dangerous about rapid test

it gives false sense of security sa mga nag negative

yan ang nirereklamo ng mga doctor na dapat itigil ang pag gamit ng rapid test

And this, imho, is why we now have 116k infections. Especially there were transmissions from those that were negative in the antibody test and then went back to their provinces. Kaya nagkahawa-hawa na lahat kasi nag-rely sa antibody testing lang.

Also the period of quarantine is too short. They know there are cases where it took 21 days for the virus to incubate so why only a 2 week quarantine? It should be a minimum of 3 weeks quarantine. Tapos saka mag swab test.

[uls]

by the same token,
being tested negative by pcr today,
does not mean one will still be negative (not infected) next week.

that's the problem with pandemic.

exactly

your negative PCR test result only tells you your status at the moment of the swab

malay mo pag tapos mo iswab nahawa ka

like umaga na-swab ka tapos ung gabing yon pumunta ka sa party inoman tawanan... meron pala tao diyan may virus

after a few days you got your PCR result -- NEGATIVE

tuwang tuwa ka yehey!!

tapos may naramdaman ka lagnat...

[uls]

And this, imho, is why we now have 116k infections. Especially there were transmissions from those that were negative in the antibody test and then went back to their provinces. Kaya nagkahawa-hawa na lahat kasi nag-rely sa antibody testing lang.

Also the period of quarantine is too short. They know there are cases where it took 21 days for the virus to incubate so why only a 2 week quarantine? It should be a minimum of 3 weeks quarantine. Tapos saka mag swab test.

yes i posted that before

sa China they quarantine people for 21 to 28 days

since they have more experience than anyone alam nila sneaky ung virus

ung 14 days standard nag umpisa yan noong January... early days palang kulang pa sa experience pero inadopt ng buong mundo ung 14 days standard

[BratPAQ]

RT-PCR test is highly accurate if done correctly.

You mean to say another RT-PCR test could have been done as a confirmatory test?

What I'm saying is confirmatory test of PCR test is only done when the rapid test is positive. So if an employee is negative, he won't have a confirmatory test.

But if you require confirmatory test for both positive and negative rapid test, you are just wasting money. So maybe the doctors suggesting to stop using the rapid test is correct.

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[uls]

kaya ako every 2 weeks rapid antibody test

kasi nasa isip ko lagi ung negative result doesn't mean i don't have the virus

it may mean i have the virus pero wala pa antibodies

since it takes about a week to develop IGM so testing every 2 weeks ma-de-detect mo yun

[glenn_duke]

Marami din kasi fake test results, kaya lalong kumalat covid19.. yung mga LSI na negative sa RAT , tapos positive sa pcr pagdating sa province nila malamang recto galing rat results nila.

[tarzegetakizerd]

yes i posted that before

sa China they quarantine people for 21 to 28 days

since they have more experience than anyone alam nila sneaky ung virus

ung 14 days standard nag umpisa yan noong January... early days palang kulang pa sa experience pero inadopt ng buong mundo ung 14 days standard

Hindi ba applicable dito yung mga studies na nagsupport sa new criteria for recoveries. yung nagsasabi na rarely lumalagpas ng 10 days yung infectious stage ng virus?

[uls]

Hindi ba applicable dito yung mga studies na nagsupport sa new criteria for recoveries. yung nagsasabi na rarely lumalagpas ng 10 days yung infectious stage ng virus?

i think that applies to 10 to 14 days after onset of symptoms

pero di natin alam kailan nahawa

kasi pag nahawa ka di agad my symptoms

usually within a week meron na symptoms

ung iba 2 weeks kaya naging standard ang 14 day quarantine

pero meron cases where symptoms come out after 21 or 28 days

ung iba naman never develop symptoms

[Ry_Tower]

kaya ako every 2 weeks rapid antibody test

kasi nasa isip ko lagi ung negative result doesn't mean i don't have the virus

it may mean i have the virus pero wala pa antibodies

since it takes about a week to develop IGM so testing every 2 weeks ma-de-detect mo yun

Yes, ideal nga yang ginagawa mo, just to make sure.

Kaya nga sa in-between time eh may chance pa din maging transmitter ka, yun ang nakakapraning isipin.

Sa amin managers lang ganyan, eh papano 95% ng employees hehehe

[uls]

Yes, ideal nga yang ginagawa mo, just to make sure.

Kaya nga sa in-between time eh may chance pa din maging transmitter ka, yun ang nakakapraning isipin.

Sa amin managers lang ganyan, eh papano 95% ng employees hehehe

yeah kahit rapid test mahal parin para sa mga companies lalo pag madami employees

a box of 20 test kits can cost around 10,000

kung hundreds ang employees mo...

rapid test palang yan... gusto ng mga doktor PCR... who can afford that every 2 weeks diba

[Ry_Tower]

yeah kahit rapid test mahal parin para sa mga companies lalo pag madami employees

a box of 20 test kits can cost around 10,000

kung hundreds ang employees mo...

rapid test palang yan... gusto ng mga doktor PCR... who can afford that every 2 weeks diba

Oo yun nga sabi ng owners, too costly to be so sure.

[uls]

itong discussion natin this morning...

dito natin makita why this virus is so successful in spreading globally

it's coz meron siya contagious period na wala sintomas

if a virus is too deadly... tulad ng ebola pinapatay ang host in a few days... it can't spread very far coz it runs out of hosts

this virus is not very deadly

it doesn't kill most of its hosts

it doesn't even make most of its hosts sick enough to stay in bed

it allows its hosts to go around, travel...

perfect pandemic virus talaga

[shadow]

i think that applies to 10 to 14 days after onset of symptoms

pero di natin alam kailan nahawa

kasi pag nahawa ka di agad my symptoms

usually within a week meron na symptoms

ung iba 2 weeks kaya naging standard ang 14 day quarantine

pero meron cases where symptoms come out after 21 or 28 days

ung iba naman never develop symptoms

Ang protocol na ngayon is start ng count on the day ng swab


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[tarzegetakizerd]

Ang protocol na ngayon is start ng count on the day ng swab


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For asymptomatic lang yun.

For symptomatic patients: 10 days after symptom onset, plus at least 3 additional days without symptoms (including without fever [2] and without respiratory symptoms)[3]
For asymptomatic cases[4]: 10 days after positive test for SARS-CoV-2

Criteria for releasing COVID-19 patients from isolation

[_Cathy_]

Nag post yung cardio ng Dad ko from TMC, important pala melatonin. Mild to moderate case 40 mg daw

So really, our best defense is a healthy body and enough sleep. Talagang this virus is taking out the weak.

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[uls]

Nag post yung cardio ng Dad ko from TMC, important pala melatonin. Mild to moderate case 40 mg daw

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ang melatonin supplement usually 3 mg lang

ano kaya effect sa katawan niyan pag 40 mg

[_Cathy_]

ang melatonin supplement usually 3 mg lang

ano kaya effect sa katawan niyan pag 40 mg

Kapag mild to moderate covid patient

I remember Divine Lee mentioned that they took so much melatonin din nasusuka na sila

So totoo pala talaga that supplements really do our body good

[uls]

Kapag mild to moderate covid patient

I remember Divine Lee mentioned that they took so much melatonin din nasusuka na sila

So totoo pala talaga that supplements really do our body good

depende sa supplement

melatonin is a hormone

di siya basta supplement like B-complex or C na pag high dose iihi mo lang

short term melatonin supplementation ok lang

pero pag matagal mo i-take baka mag shut down ang internal melatonin production mo

since lagi ka meron outside source ng melatonin, baka mag decide ang katawan mo di nalang gumawa ng melatonin

[_Cathy_]

depende sa supplement

melatonin is a hormone

di siya basta supplement like B-complex or C na pag high dose iihi mo lang

short term melatonin supplementation ok lang

pero pag matagal mo i-take baka mag shut down ang internal melatonin production mo

since lagi ka meron outside source ng melatonin, baka mag decide ang katawan mo di nalang gumawa ng melatonin

Yeah nabasa ko rin sa Melatonin supplement ko na short term lang siya talaga