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    #30481
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Yung isa pala na nag booster shot sa QC eh QC LGU employee pa. Bukod sa kaso eh may Administrative case pa tuloy. Bakit kasi kailangan pa i-post sa social media. [emoji23]

    Payabang muna ng booster shot

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    #30482
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    Mitigation measures are not complete !
    We lack testings and contact tracings - two key pillars to end the pandemic.

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    In the case of my friend's Mom, there is no testing and contact tracing. I guess it's hard for them to do it now because of the number of cases.

    My friend's Mom tested positive for Covid on August 7(or 8). None of them in the family were required to take RT PCR. No home visits or check on the quarantine arrangements at home. They are 6 at home and 4 have symptoms including the Mom. The other sister who has no symptoms GOES OUT FOR ERRANDS.

    They are not strict anymore compared to 2020 na when someone is found positive, expect a visit from the barangay. You would really be ostracized from the community pa. Can you all remember when a barangay locked a family in their house (I don't agree to that though) It seems like people aren't that much afraid of covid na?

    Two days ago I was told by my friend that they had to admit her Mom She is allowed to stay with her even while waiting for her RT PCR. If it's positive then she will be sent home. Buti ngayon allowed na ang bantay. The hospitalization will cost them P700k daw! Sheesh, paano na lang mga walang pambayad??

    Update: talking to her now, per vial na turok P40k daw [emoji15] Lalo ako na stress sa takot sa covid.
    Last edited by _Cathy_; August 15th, 2021 at 02:28 AM.

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    #30484
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Yung isa pala na nag booster shot sa QC eh QC LGU employee pa. Bukod sa kaso eh may Administrative case pa tuloy. Bakit kasi kailangan pa i-post sa social media. [emoji23]

    Moderna pa ba ang booster niya?🙄

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    #30485
    A friend of mine fully vaxxed ng Sinovac gor positive last week.
    Sipon and ubo lang ang symptoms niya. Quarantined for 21 days para daw no need to re swabbed again

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    #30486
    84 years old lola nung officemate ni wifey got J&J (lagpas 14 days na din)

    Nawalan lang ng panlasa and pang amoy, transferred to a community isolation facility.

    Vaccine really doing its job.


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    #30487
    “In the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines…” – non veni pacem


    "Our data suggest that the balance between neutralizing and facilitating antibodies in vaccinated individuals is in favor of neutralization for the original Wuhan/D614G strain. However, in the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors). Under these circumstances, second generation vaccines with spike protein formulations lacking structurally-conserved ADE-related epitopes should be considered.”

    For aggressive redistribution: ADE may not be occurring with the original Covid strain, but rather, ADE among the “fully vaccinated” is particular to the Delta variant. This would explain everything we have been seeing for the past six weeks, and now we have the science to prove it. Anyone who has taken the vaxx needs to be on an accelerated prevention protocol.




    The Covid vaccines made your antibodies focus more on neutralizing the original strain of Covid, that the new Delta strain is now being given a walk in the park by your immune system. This is what they call ADE or Antibody Dependent Enhancement that also occurs in SARS, Dengue, HIV. That is why booster shots for the Delta variant is needed again, and maybe after 6 months another booster shot for another variant on the loose and so on and on...

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    #30488
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    “In the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines…” – non veni pacem


    "Our data suggest that the balance between neutralizing and facilitating antibodies in vaccinated individuals is in favor of neutralization for the original Wuhan/D614G strain. However, in the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors). Under these circumstances, second generation vaccines with spike protein formulations lacking structurally-conserved ADE-related epitopes should be considered.”


    For aggressive redistribution: ADE may not be occurring with the original Covid strain, but rather, ADE among the “fully vaccinated” is particular to the Delta variant. This would explain everything we have been seeing for the past six weeks, and now we have the science to prove it. Anyone who has taken the vaxx needs to be on an accelerated prevention protocol.



    The Covid vaccines made your antibodies focus more on neutralizing the original strain of Covid, that the new Delta strain is now being given a walk in the park by your immune system. This is what they call ADE or Antibody Dependent Enhancement that also occurs in SARS, Dengue, HIV. That is why booster shots for the Delta variant is needed again, and maybe after 6 months another booster shot for another variant on the loose and so on and on...
    ... starting to sound like the seasonal flu virus... ?

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    #30489
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ... starting to sound like the seasonal flu virus... ?
    Yes indeed. Just like the flu, and requiring annual booster shots customized for the particular variant will now be the future. Just got to get people fully vaccinated, because even though you may have breakthrough cases, vaccinated individuals rarely require hospitalization.

    Now the question is: do lockdowns increase infection rates or decrease infection rates. I clearly see evidence all around the globe, that forced lockdowns increase infection rates.

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    #30490
    Quote Originally Posted by rademamj View Post
    Yes indeed. Just like the flu, and requiring annual booster shots customized for the particular variant will now be the future. Just got to get people fully vaccinated, because even though you may have breakthrough cases, vaccinated individuals rarely require hospitalization.

    Now the question is: do lockdowns increase infection rates or decrease infection rates. I clearly see evidence all around the globe, that forced lockdowns increase infection rates.

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    obviously,
    if lockdowns do not result in nicer figures,
    let's just do away with them entirely.

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    #30491
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    The Covid vaccines made your antibodies focus more on neutralizing the original strain of Covid, that the new Delta strain is now being given a walk in the park by your immune system. This is what they call ADE or Antibody Dependent Enhancement that also occurs in SARS, Dengue, HIV. That is why booster shots for the Delta variant is needed again, and maybe after 6 months another booster shot for another variant on the loose and so on and on...
    Merry Christmas

    Dec 25, 2020 post


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    #30492
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    India's Ivermectin Blackout

    Ivermectin Wins in India

    India'''s Ivermectin Blackout | ZeroHedge
    Really...?

    Ivermectin, Doxycycline Dropped From List of COVID-19 Drugs by Health Ministry


    The Directorate General of Health Services (DGHS) under the Union Health Ministry has revised the COVID-19 management guidelines and decided against the usage of certain strong medicines for mild or asymptomatic cases of coronavirus. According to the new guidelines issued on May 27, the health ministry has written to the doctors’ community to drop drugs like hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc, multivitamins etc from prescription.

    The government has retained only antipyretic drugs for fever and antitussive for cold symptoms. The ministry has even discouraged medical practitioners from prescribing unnecessary tests related to COVID-19 infection such as CT scan.

    The WHO had already advised against the use of Ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug usually prescribed to treat certain parasitic roundworm infections, as a prophylaxis treatment for coronavirus.

    The May 27 order had also restricted Remdesivir to select moderate/severe hospitalised patients who are on supplemental oxygen within 10 days of the infection. Another drug in high demand, Tocilizumab is an immunosuppressant medicine that the DGHS said should be used only in severe and critically ill patients.

    The second wave has also led to a spurt in cases of black fungus, which experts believe is due to the indiscriminate use of steroids to treat coronavirus.

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    #30493
    things turned out exactly as i thought

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    August 28, 2020 page 1716

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yup SARSCOV2 will become a mainstay coronavirus like the 4 other human coronaviruses

    sobra taas ng expectation ng mga tao sa vaccine

    people think it's like measles vaccine where one shot gives you lifelong protection

    no way

    it will be more like flu vaccine where you need to get shots regularly (but coronaviruses do not mutate as much as flu viruses)
    Last edited by uls; August 15th, 2021 at 01:05 PM.

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    #30494
    Quote Originally Posted by rademamj View Post
    Yes indeed. Just like the flu, and requiring annual booster shots customized for the particular variant will now be the future. Just got to get people fully vaccinated, because even though you may have breakthrough cases, vaccinated individuals rarely require hospitalization.

    Now the question is: do lockdowns increase infection rates or decrease infection rates. I clearly see evidence all around the globe, that forced lockdowns increase infection rates.

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    tell that to octa research

    i'm against lockdowns form the start

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    #30496
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    i posted the worldometer graph of India's cases several times

    peak and decline

    Indonesia's cases also passed peak and are declining


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    #30497
    I kept hearing dandelion extract for the past months. They say that Dandelion extract can neutralize the spike proteins.


    Common dandelion (Taraxacum officinale) efficiently blocks the interaction between ACE2 cell surface receptor and SARS-CoV-2 spike protein D614, mutants D614G, N501Y, K417N and E484K in vitro
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...959v1.full.pdf

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    #30498
    Ilan deaths ang acceptable para ma open na natin economy at hayaan na marami mamatay?


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    #30499
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    I kept hearing dandelion extract for the past months. They say that Dandelion extract can neutralize the spike proteins.


    Common dandelion (Taraxacum officinale) efficiently blocks the interaction between ACE2 cell surface receptor and SARS-CoV-2 spike protein D614, mutants D614G, N501Y, K417N and E484K in vitro
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...959v1.full.pdf
    many things can inhibit sarscov2 in vitro (in a test tube or petri dish)

    things that work in vitro may not necessarily work in vivo (in the organism)

    ipa-clinical trial nila yan

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    #30500
    i drink green tea or black tea everyday pero di ko iniisip magiging immune ako sa covid

    don't take stuff like this too seriously


    Method
    We reviewed the antiviral activities of two polyphenols derived from tea, epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG) from green tea and theaflavins from black tea. Both green tea and black tea polyphenols have been reported to exhibit antiviral activities against various viruses, especially positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses.

    Results
    Recent studies have revealed the possible binding sites present on SARS-CoV-2 and studied their interactions with tea polyphenols. EGCG and theaflavins, especially theaflavin-3,3′-digallate (TF3) have shown a significant interaction with the receptors under consideration in this review. Some docking studies further emphasize on the activity of these polyphenols against COVID-19.

    Conclusion
    This review summarizes the available reports and evidences which support the use of tea polyphenols as potential candidates in prophylaxis and treatment of COVID-19.

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