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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    gusto nila palpak ang sinovac para masabi tama sila
    Bad Sinovac/Sinopharm news generate plenty of clicks

    Just like bad AstraZeneca news, now Japan and Australia are just giving away theirs


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    #28622
    astra ako

    1st dose May 19

    sa Aug 11 pa 2nd dose ko

    kahit 1 dose lang positive na ako sa IgG antibodies

    -

    Japan and other countries can give away their astra all they want

    it's their loss, our gain

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    hello tsikoteers. Lalo na sa mga patopschool top school jan.




    National

    Japan's bitter vaccine history creates hurdle in COVID-19 fight



    A boy sits on decorations for the New Year's holiday period at a Shinto shrine in Tokyo on Tuesday. Japan has one of the lowest rates of vaccine confidence in the world, according to a Lancet study, which found that fewer than 30% of people strongly agreed that vaccines were safe. | REUTERS


    by Lisa Du and Grace Huang
    Bloomberg
    Dec 23, 2020


    With agreements to secure more coronavirus vaccines than it needs and legislation to distribute it for free, Japan may seem to have its inoculation plans in place. Yet a tense public history with vaccines and a cautious approval process has some concerned over how quickly the country can return to normal.

    Japan has one of the lowest rates of vaccine confidence in the world, according to a Lancet study, which found that fewer than 30% of people strongly agreed that vaccines were safe, important and effective, compared with at least 50% of Americans. A recent poll by NHK found 36% said they didn’t want to take a COVID-19 vaccine.

    The government now faces a tricky balancing act: trying to move quickly to approve the jabs in order to restore the economy to full health, while avoiding creating the impression of a rush-job — which might help turn an already-skeptical public off getting inoculated.

    “Japan is very cautious about vaccines, because historically there have been issues about potential side effects,” said Haruka Sakamoto, a public health researcher at the University of Tokyo. “The government has been involved in several lawsuits related to the issue, which adds to their deep caution.”

    Cautious timeline

    The skeptical attitude pre-dates the more recent Western “anti-vax” sentiment that has thrived on social media, with its roots instead in past vaccine-linked events and legal rulings that encouraged the government to take a passive stance on vaccination.

    And ironically, Japan’s relative success in handling the pandemic means an urgent rollout of the shot is less of a priority. The country has avoided a second state of emergency, even as cases have increased to record levels.

    As a result, Japan’s rollout is set to be slower than some other nations, which has led to frustration among those counting on vaccines to eradicate the virus. Only Pfizer Inc. has so far applied for local approval of its coronavirus shot, even as the U.K. and the U.S. have both administered more than half a million doses, mostly to the elderly and health care workers.

    Local media have reported that vaccines will be rolled out in Japan from late February, when the government aims to inoculate about 10,000 front-line health care workers. The ministry is then preparing to vaccinate general medical staff, after which it will be gradually administered to the wider population. Japan hasn’t stated when it aims to complete its vaccination program.



    The Ginza shopping district in Tokyo. Japan’s skeptical attitude toward vaccines pre-dates the more recent Western “anti-vax” sentiment that has thrived on social media. | AP

    While figures such as U.S. Vice President Mike Pence and President-elect Joe Biden have gotten the dose, and leaders such as Indonesian President Joko Widodo are volunteering to be the first to receive it in their countries, Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga has said he will wait his turn.

    Health minister Norihisa Tamura said Friday that he has asked relevant bodies to prioritize the review of Pfizer’s application, but didn’t give a timeline for approval. A health ministry spokesman also declined to comment on the reported timeline.

    MMR issues

    Japan’s modern vaccine unease has its roots in a measles, mumps and rubella inoculation that some suspected of leading to higher rates of aseptic meningitis in the early 1990s. Though no definitive link was established, the shots were discontinued, and to this day Japan doesn’t recommend a combined MMR shot.

    Another catalyst was a 1992 court ruling that not only made the government responsible for any adverse reactions related to vaccines, but also stipulated that suspected side effects would be considered adverse events, said Tetsuo Nakayama, a professor at the Kitasato Institute for Life Sciences whose research focuses on vaccines. Two years later, the government revised a vaccination law, scrapping mandatory vaccinations.

    These events helped send a message that inoculations should be taken at one’s own risk, and diluted the awareness of vaccination as a greater public benefit, said Mikihito Tanaka, a professor at Waseda University specializing in science communication.

    “Japan has a strong health insurance scheme and an accessible medical system,” he said. “Compared to places like the U.S., that makes the incentive to gamble one’s health with a new vaccine very low.”

    The handling of the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine also looms large in public memory. After media coverage on claims the vaccine’s side effects included severe headaches and seizures, the health ministry in 2013 withdrew its recommendation for the shot, which has proven safe and effective in preventing cervical cancer. While it remained available on request, the vaccination rate plummeted from 70% to less than 1% currently. That may have led to an additional 5,700 deaths, according to one study.

    ‘Wide shows’

    Japan’s drug approvals require clinical trials involving Japanese people, but an emergency authorization based on data from other countries is allowed. Vaccines for the 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic were given emergency approval after about three months review.

    Still, the government will have to carefully manage how the public perceives a speedy approval process. The economic impact of the pandemic and the forthcoming Tokyo Olympics could prompt a faster approval, but also arouse suspicion over whether the shots have been thoroughly vetted.

    How the public will perceive some typical side effects is also concerning, Nakayama said. Initial data from the vaccines show local pain in 80% of cases and fatigue and headaches in up to 50%, but “there has never been a vaccine in Japan that has caused reactions to these levels,” he said. The issue poses questions as ultimately, public opinion will decide the scale of the rollout.

    Tanaka said he was particularly worried about the influence of variety news programs, which serve as both news and entertainment and are hugely influential in shaping public opinion, which ultimately will decide the scale of the rollout.

    “The final decision to receive the vaccine or not will be made by the people,” health minister Tamura noted on Friday.

    I will highlight

    - Japan has one of the lowest rates of vaccine confidence in the world, according to a Lancet study, which found that fewer than 30% of people strongly agreed that vaccines were safe, important and effective, compared with at least 50% of Americans. A recent poll by NHK found 36% said they didn’t want to take a COVID-19 vaccine.

    - Japan’s modern vaccine unease has its roots in a measles, mumps and rubella inoculation that some suspected of leading to higher rates of aseptic meningitis in the early 1990s. Though no definitive link was established, the shots were discontinued, and to this day Japan doesn’t recommend a combined MMR shot.

    - Another catalyst was a 1992 court ruling that not only made the government responsible for any adverse reactions related to vaccines, but also stipulated that suspected side effects would be considered adverse events, said Tetsuo Nakayama, a professor at the Kitasato Institute for Life Sciences whose research focuses on vaccines. Two years later, the government revised a vaccination law, scrapping mandatory vaccinations.

    - These events helped send a message that inoculations should be taken at one’s own risk, and diluted the awareness of vaccination as a greater public benefit, said Mikihito Tanaka, a professor at Waseda University specializing in science communication.

    - While figures such as U.S. Vice President Mike Pence and President-elect Joe Biden have gotten the dose, and leaders such as Indonesian President Joko Widodo are volunteering to be the first to receive it in their countries, Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga has said he will wait his turn.

    - The handling of the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine also looms large in public memory. After media coverage on claims the vaccine’s side effects included severe headaches and seizures, the health ministry in 2013 withdrew its recommendation for the shot, which has proven safe and effective in preventing cervical cancer. While it remained available on request, the vaccination rate plummeted from 70% to less than 1% currently. That may have led to an additional 5,700 deaths, according to one study.

    Japan's bitter vaccine history creates hurdle in COVID-19 fight | The Japan Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    astra ako

    1st dose May 19

    sa Aug 11 pa 2nd dose ko

    kahit 1 dose lang positive na ako sa IgG antibodies

    -

    Japan and other countries can give away their astra all they want

    it's their loss, our gain
    Saan made yung astra ginamit sa iyo?
    Sa project ko magsimula nayung vacination, naka highlight na euro made yung astra na gagamitin, may pagkakaiba ba sa ibang non euro made na astra?

    May side effect ba? Yung mga puti nabakunahan dito ng astra naglasakit the next day, pero gumaling din. Yunh indonesian 2 days na down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    No, our concern right now is how to vaccinate as much people as possible with the available vaccine. These news of vaccinated people dying from covid isn’t helping.
    It's our life and the lives of our loved ones that we put on the line with these vaccines

    We monitor the world developments to confirm if we bet on the right vaccine or not

    What is available is good enough for the original variants, what we are witnessing now is the affirmation of the lab trials and how good those available vaccines in coping up with the mutations of the veeeruz

    What is important to emphasize is, that no vaccine is 100% effective..there may be a small window for us to be infected with a specific variant but since the virus mutates we still need not be COMPLACENT to think that since were already vaccinated were INVULNERABLE

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    Last edited by kisshmet; July 12th, 2021 at 03:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Saan made yung astra ginamit sa iyo?
    Sa project ko magsimula nayung vacination, naka highlight na euro made yung astra na gagamitin, may pagkakaiba ba sa ibang non euro made na astra?

    May side effect ba? Yung mga puti nabakunahan dito ng astra naglasakit the next day, pero gumaling din. Yunh indonesian 2 days na down.
    di ko tininingan ung label san galing

    ito ung batch ng astra from covax na malapit mag expire kaya rollout agad para magamit

    side effect matamlay, feel sick

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    Compared to last year, are you now not afraid of covid-19 or felt much at ease as compared before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Compared to last year, are you now not afraid of covid-19 or felt much at ease as compared before?
    last year, we knew very little about the enemy. hence the fear.

    today, we know considerably more. the fear is less now, because we know how it works, what it can do and not do, and because there are effective vaccines.

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    #28629
    Mix vaccines here:
    1st dose astra
    2nd dose pfizer


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    #28630
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Mix vaccines here:
    1st dose astra
    2nd dose pfizer


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    Sayo yan Sir? How? Different LGUs?


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    Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines - YouTube

    Interesting explainer video from Vox. Sinovac is notably absent from their list though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Sayo yan Sir? How? Different LGUs?


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    Astra lgu and Pfizer come from company…

    So now im part of the trial(covid19 vaccine) of another trial(mix vaccine 1st & 2nd dose)…

    I Plan to take antibody test 1 month after…


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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Astra lgu and Pfizer come from company…

    So now im part of the trial(covid19 vaccine) of another trial(mix vaccine 1st & 2nd dose)…

    I Plan to take antibody test 1 month after…


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    lucky you!
    that's what i've been wanting to enrol myself into.

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    Verbl kint,

    sabi kasi ni duterte pareparehas lang yan nga available vaccines

    Pagalingan kaya yan ng technology

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    Last edited by kisshmet; July 12th, 2021 at 04:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    lucky you!
    that's what i've been wanting to enrol myself into.
    The problem doc is hindi official… colurom… [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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    pre-pandemic facts....

    Kagalingan pang first world choices hahahah .


    This is the most anti-vaxxer country in the world


    Published: June 19, 2019 at 5:04 p.m. ET
    By Nicole Lyn Pesce


    Higher-income nations questioned vaccines the most in a new report



    Some of the richest countries have the poorest opinions of vaccines.

    The Wellcome Trust, a U.K research charity, surveyed more than 140,000 people (ages 15 and up) in more than 140 countries about their views of science and major health challenges. And while eight in 10 people worldwide (79%) said that vaccinations are safe — and nine in 10 said their own children had been inoculated — higher-income pockets in Europe have less confidence in vaccines than lower-income countries in Africa.

    France took the strongest anti-vaxx stance in the report. One in three French residents don’t believe that vaccines are safe, and one in 10 don’t think it’s important for children to get vaccinated. And 55% of residents also displayed a distrust of science and technology, believing the two disciplines will reduce the number of jobs.

    “The rising vaccine hesitancy in France over the past several years — which even now includes some members of the medical community — has helped drive vaccine coverage among some children and young adults below immunity thresholds and led to rising numbers of measles and meningococcal disease cases,” the report stated.

    In fact, the survey reported that people in Western Europe have the lowest confidence in vaccines in the world, with more than one in five (22%) disagreeing that vaccines are safe, followed by 17% of Eastern Europeans saying the same. Only around half of Ukraine residents believe that vaccines work. And about a fifth of people in Europe overall either disagree or are uncertain about whether inoculations are safe.



    Measles cases more than tripled across Europe last year, according to the World Health Organization, largely driven by almost 54,000 cases confirmed in the Ukraine, and 2,913 in France.

    The countries with the highest numbers of parents claiming not to vaccinate their children included China (9%), Austria (8%) and Japan (7%).

    Despite Americans’ polarized views on vaccines — the proportion of young kids who aren’t getting inoculations like the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine has roughly quadrupled over the past 15 years — the U.S. was largely pro-vaccine in this report, falling in 45th place on the scale of vaccine skepticism. About 11% of people didn’t believe vaccines are safe, and 16% neither agreed nor disagreed with vaccination safety and efficacy.

    On the flip side, Bangladesh was the most pro-vaccine, with almost 98% of people saying that inoculations are safe and effective, followed by Rwanda. Rwandans also trusted their healthcare system more than any other nation, with 97% giving a positive response, compared to the global average of 76%.

    The Wellcome Trust’s head of public engagement Imran Khan told the AFP news agency that the “complacency effect” was probably responsible for reducing wealthier countries’ faith in vaccines, compared to underprivileged areas that have suffered from not having access to them.

    “If you look at those countries in our survey which have very high rates of confidence in vaccines, places like Bangladesh and Egypt, these are areas where you do have more infectious diseases,” Khan said. “Perhaps what you see is the people in those countries can see what happens if you don’t vaccinate.”

    - France took the strongest anti-vaxx stance in the report.

    - In fact, the survey reported that people in Western Europe have the lowest confidence in vaccines in the world, with more than one in five (22%) disagreeing that vaccines are safe, followed by 17% of Eastern Europeans saying the same. Only around half of Ukraine residents believe that vaccines work. And about a fifth of people in Europe overall either disagree or are uncertain about whether inoculations are safe.

    - The countries with the highest numbers of parents claiming not to vaccinate their children included China (9%), Austria (8%) and Japan (7%).

    This is the most anti-vaxxer country in the world - MarketWatch

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    #28637
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    Why you can't compare Covid-19 vaccines - YouTube

    Interesting explainer video from Vox. Sinovac is notably absent from their list though.

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    vox.com is an American entertainment website owned by Vox Media Inc an American mass media company based in DC

    para sa US audience ung video

    there's no point in including sinovac
    Last edited by uls; July 12th, 2021 at 06:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    vox.com is an American entertainment website owned by Vox Media Inc an American mass media company based in DC

    para sa US audience ung video

    there's no point in including sinovac
    True but Sputnik is on the list, tho. ;)

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    #28639
    Our privileged few... and they will get away with it as usual.

    Congressman Zamora Gets 4 COVID-19 Vaccine Doses
    Zamora said he got his first Sinopharm shot in December 2020, three months before the government officially rolled out its vaccination program. At that time, the Chinese-made jab has yet to secure emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration.

    "Kung nagtataka kayo kung bakit si Congressman Zamora ay hindi nagma-mask, sasabihin ko sa inyo: I have been vaccinated twice, twice over," he said, drawing laughter from the crowd.

    "Sino nakakuha ng Sinopharm sa Pilipinas? Isa doon si Presidente. Kaya lang kung parehong pinagkunan namin, pareho kami 'bootleg.' Ibig sabihin wala akong maipapakitang dokumento o vaccination form na puwede akong makapag-travel," he said.

    His doctors recommended he take two booster shots because he was "severely immunocompromised," he said, adding he could not enter the U.S. or Europe if he is immunized with a Chinese drug.

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    #28640
    How long can the PH luckily avoid the Delta surge?


China Corona Virus Outbreak