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    #26941
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    You know thats the problem stereotyping vaccine even in western countries. Thats why you can see a lot of fb post about the right to choose for a particular vaccine.

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    Who are there posters saying about the right to choose? Mga feeling aristocrat gusto pfizer? If sila magbabayad they can choose whatever brand but if they're getting it from the govt. Kunin nila kung ano available so not to prolong the roll out and achieving herd immunity.


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    #26942
    Under the E.U. plan, the bloc would accept visitors who have completed their immunization at least two weeks before their arrival, using one of the shots approved by its own regulator or by the World Health Organization
    Sinopharm was just approved by WHO while sinovac is in the process and decision will come out soon.

    So yun fake news nanaman na sinasabi ng mga choosy dito na pag China vaccine hinde accepted sa ibang countries, actually meron na nga fake news na hinde daw accept papasok ng US pag hinde either Moderna or pfizer.

    Dami nanaman engot naniwala eh in the first place wala nga bakuna pa pianapaosk tapos doon na lang magpa vaccine sa America eh.

    Mga ungas dapat alisan ng access sa FB mga engot. Lahat ng mabasa paniwalang paniwala.
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    Last edited by shadow; May 20th, 2021 at 10:34 AM.

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    #26943
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Btw, may I know where is the source of this new variant symptoms?

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    Picked up from viber.

    COVID Symptoms | How are symptoms of new COVID-19 strains and variants different from original coronavirus? | Health Tips and News
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    #26944
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i am now wondering,
    are the china vaccines really sub-par,
    or are they being bad-mouthed by the competition and/or by politics?
    real world data from Thailand:

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    #26945
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    real world data from Thailand:

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    Mas effective pa compare to astra. [emoji1363]


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    #26946
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Mas effective pa compare to astra. [emoji1363]


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    Hala shadow ano na nangyari sa yo! Make China great again ka na din hehehe.

    Sa graphic yung mas mataas na percentage ng Sinovac is 2 doses vs Astra's 1st dose. Sa comparison ng 1st dose mas mataas yung Astra. No info on Astra's 2nd dose.

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    #26947
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Sinopharm was just approved by WHO while sinovac is in the process and decision will come out soon.

    So yun fake news nanaman na sinasabi ng mga choosy dito na pag China vaccine hinde accepted sa ibang countries, actually meron na nga fake news na hinde daw accept papasok ng US pag hinde either Moderna or pfizer.

    Dami nanaman engot naniwala eh in the first place wala nga bakuna pa pianapaosk tapos doon na lang magpa vaccine sa America eh.

    Mga ungas dapat alisan ng access sa FB mga engot. Lahat ng mabasa paniwalang paniwala.
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    If I have a choice, I'll skip over Sinovac. This has nothing to do with effectiveness since data show it is effective.

    But I'll still take it - just for this pandemic to end. Social obligation lang.

    Ph Govt buying Sinovac - ginisa sa sariling mantika.

    Parang Chinese infra loan na Chinese company at Chinese workers ang gagawa.

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    #26948
    Sabi nga ng relative kong doctor sa US, all vaccines are effective. No vaccine is better than the other since the purpose is to prevent getting sick from a certain virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Sabi nga ng relative kong doctor sa US, all vaccines are effective. No vaccine is better than the other since the purpose is to prevent getting sick from a certain virus.
    Agree that all seem effective in protection from getting sick but from the new infection data of countries that used mostly mRNA vaccines it seems they are better in blocking transmission. Of course given we have no choice, better to have any of the available vaccines now vs none.

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    #26950
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Who are there posters saying about the right to choose? Mga feeling aristocrat gusto pfizer? If sila magbabayad they can choose whatever brand but if they're getting it from the govt. Kunin nila kung ano available so not to prolong the roll out and achieving herd immunity.
    Hahahahahaha [emoji23] may galit talaga.. Sa mga seniors wala ako problem sa gusto mag-Pfizer kahit sa Frontliners din.. Kanina lang may comment na naman mama ko, kesyo daw ang China unti-unti ka papatayin tulad nung sa Malamine.. Hirap lang talaga paliwanagan mga Seniors.. Pagbigyan na lang hilig, matanda na eh.. Swerte nyo if parents nyo ay open minded.
    Sa papa ko wala akong problem.. Hindi ko na kailangan nga magpaliwanag.. Sinabi ko lang magpabakuna at mag-fill up ng form ok na sya.. Walang tanong, lahat naman kami sabay nanonood ng balita.. Pati nga yung form ng mama ko siya na gumawa, kahit ayaw ginawaan nya.. Hehehe [emoji16]
    Dun lang ako sa mga choosy na walang comorbidity na nandaya pa para lang maka-Pfizer at mauna pa talaga dun sa mga may sakit na totoo, ibang klase din talaga..
    Mabagal lang talaga roll out ng vaccine sa ibang lugar.. Wala kasi scheduling system, mamumuti na lang mata mo kakahintay ng text notification, wala pa din.. [emoji849] paano pa kaming walang mga comorbidity.. November daw ang target, kalokohan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Hala shadow ano na nangyari sa yo! Make China great again ka na din hehehe.

    Sa graphic yung mas mataas na percentage ng Sinovac is 2 doses vs Astra's 1st dose. Sa comparison ng 1st dose mas mataas yung Astra. No info on Astra's 2nd dose.
    Gusto ko na matapos itong pandemic dito para makabalik na tayo sa normal life natin lahat.

    Kung itong mga choosy eh mag hold up ng herd immunity natin eh bwisit sila dapat magkulong na lang sila sa bahay


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    #26952
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Gusto ko na matapos itong pandemic dito para makabalik na tayo sa normal life natin lahat.

    Kung itong mga choosy eh mag hold up ng herd immunity natin eh bwisit sila dapat magkulong na lang sila sa bahay


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    Gawin nilang A1.75 yung mga influencer. Sinovac and Astra ang ibigay sa kanila. Ang bilis bigla nyan.
    Last edited by Wh1stl3r; May 20th, 2021 at 11:33 AM.

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    #26953
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Gawin nilang A1.75 yung mga influencer. Sinovac and Astra ang ibigay sa kanila. Ang bilis bigla nyan.
    Mga influencers dapat muriatic acid iturok


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    Covid-19: What went wrong in Singapore and Taiwan?

    Analyzing the new surge in Taiwan and Singapore

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    #26955
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Gusto ko na matapos itong pandemic dito para makabalik na tayo sa normal life natin lahat.

    Kung itong mga choosy eh mag hold up ng herd immunity natin eh bwisit sila dapat magkulong na lang sila sa bahay


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    People have the right to choose. Kung hindi makabalik kaagad ekonomiya then blame the government, dapat noon pa pinayagan private kasi hindi naman talaga kaya ng gubyerno. Pinayagan nga pero may hati parin gubyerno. Then now puro China brands pinasok eh walang confidence ang tao sa China and you know the reason. Dumating western vax thru covax e dinumog vax sites. Don't blame the people, blame the government, hindi tayo communist country pwede diktahan may choice na mag antay o magbayad. Kung atat den paturok kaagad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    People have the right to choose. Kung hindi makabalik kaagad ekonomiya then blame the government, dapat noon pa pinayagan private kasi hindi naman talaga kaya ng gubyerno. Pinayagan nga pero may hati parin gubyerno. Then now puro China brands pinasok eh walang confidence ang tao sa China and you know the reason. Dumating western vax thru covax e dinumog vax sites. Don't blame the people, blame the government, hindi tayo communist country pwede diktahan may choice na mag antay o magbayad. Kung atat den paturok kaagad.
    Hinde pa nga pwedeng magbenta directly ang pharmas sa private dahil EUA pa lang ang permit nila and sila mismo nag demand ng indemnity clause so govt lang pwede magbigay niyan.

    Pag na approved na sila full authorization then pwede na private directy at hinde na kailangan govt.

    Kaya nga pag choosy then ilagay goon sa last priority para maka move on na at yun choosy magkulong na lang sa bahay.

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    #26957
    Unvax can still go out of their homes, same with vaxed people. They have equal footing on freedom as long as they follow health protocols. Wala din karapatan ang vaxinated magtangal ng mask in public at lumabas if they are not APOR na mamasyal lang. Kung Chosey yung tao, its their basic right and they know the risks. Its the governemnt that should adjust, sila din naman dahilan why the pharmas are requiring indemnity laws. Wala lang talaga sense of urgency ang gobyernong ito may ibang priorities for their own political interests.

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    #26958
    They can go out of their homes but private establishments should also have the right to refuse entry for anyone wala pang bakuna.


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    Not gonna happen. Pareho lang superspreaders yang vax unvaxed.

    Pwede pa wag papasukin yung tulad ni Kags na walang mask mahaba kuko mukhang dugyot. Papasok palang eh Chinese looking mukhang covid patient na.

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    #26960
    private companies and establishment have their right to impose conditions on entry to their establishment.
    Whether it will be imposed by these establishment is the question.
    Would you rather eat in a restaurant full of vaccinated people or one where there is a mix amount of vaccinated and non vaccinated ones?

    I just got an invite for an event where in both mask and a vaccination card is being asked that i bring.
    i will try to read the invitation again when i get home, baka may libre bakuna sa entrance. hahaha

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