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    #25061
    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    ganito yung available sa hospital.. Pinili ko sa appointment yung ECLIA (Antibody) .. parang tunog generic kasi yung Antigen (Swab).. Wala kasi ako matanungan sa hospital kung ano difference nung dalawa..
    Tama yang test missX. it will detect antibodies for COVID.
    it will be positive pag nag pa vaccine ka na or if nagkaroon kang Covid before at wala ka pa vaccine shot.

    Yung anitgen swab ginagamit for quick testing of patients to detect kung mayrun sila active infection with Covid virus. Pero i think you still have to do RT-PCR for confirmatory kung mag positive ka sa Antigen swab.

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    #25062
    If I get this right. Yun e-pass na ₱2600 specific antibodies for covid ang test while yun ₱750 and ₱1600. Lahat ng antibodies na meron ako.


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    #25063
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde nila alam yan


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    yan ang mahirap shadow

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    #25064
    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    pabagal bagal na naman:

    COVID-19 airborne? DOH says health protocols enough | Philstar.com



    reactive talaga DOH hindi proactive
    Airborne or droplets, there is not much adjustments anyone can do. IMO, the best move the gov’t can make is to accelerate the vax drive for class A4 & the underpriveledged & to allow the private sector to procure their vaccines for their employees & immediate families. Just focus on that for now instead of implementing more quarantine & health measures.


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    #25065
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    If I get this right. Yun e-pass na ₱2600 specific antibodies for covid ang test while yun ₱750 and ₱1600. Lahat ng antibodies na meron ako.


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    no not antibodies to everything

    SARSCOV2 antibodies only

    not to flu or dengue or hepa or others

    ung 2600, 1600, 750 ---- lahat yan looking for antibodies laban sa SARSCOV2 lang

    pero ung 2600 looking for a subtype of antibodies -- neutralizing antibodies
    Last edited by uls; April 20th, 2021 at 01:22 PM.

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    #25066
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    mag ECLIA ka

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    ung swab antigen rapid test kit lang gagamitin nila

    mabilis resulta
    Noted Sir Uls. [emoji108]

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    #25067
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Tama yang test missX. it will detect antibodies for COVID.
    it will be positive pag nag pa vaccine ka na or if nagkaroon kang Covid before at wala ka pa vaccine shot.

    Yung anitgen swab ginagamit for quick testing of patients to detect kung mayrun sila active infection with Covid virus. Pero i think you still have to do RT-PCR for confirmatory kung mag positive ka sa Antigen swab.
    Thank you po mas nalinawan ako.. Buti tama yung napa appointment ko.

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    #25068
    shadow

    diba meron IGG antibodies

    within that population of IGG there are neutralilzing antibodies

    ung ELISA test looks for that specifically

    kaya mas mahal ung test

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    kumbaga sa sundalo ung IGG meron regular soldiers meron ung may special training

    ung ELISA hahanapin niya ung may special training

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    #25069
    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    Noted Sir Uls. [emoji108]
    tsaka ung swab antigen walang kinalaman yan sa antibodies

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    Example of Covid-19 neutralizing antibodies result.
    Take note that the test is done lang para sa mga curious or for convalescent plasma donors but not recommended after getting vaccinated. Need pa rin to practice ang Apat Dapat.




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    #25071
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    tsaka ung swab antigen walang kinalaman yan sa antibodies
    confusing ang antigen at antibody sakin.. napa Google pa tuloy ako.. Antibody pala more on specific..
    Isipin ko na lang
    Antigen = gen = general
    Antibody = body = individual/specific..

    Sorry may problem ako sa mga ganyan.. specially sa push/pull hahahahahaha [emoji23]
    kelangan ko i-correlate sa pansarili kong kapakanan..

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    #25072
    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    confusing ang antigen at antibody sakin.. napa Google pa tuloy ako.. Antibody pala more on specific..
    Isipin ko na lang
    Antigen = gen = general
    Antibody = body = individual/specific..

    Sorry may problem ako sa mga ganyan.. specially sa push/pull hahahahahaha [emoji23]
    kelangan ko i-correlate sa pansarili kong kapakanan..


    ang antigen yun ung masamang tao papasok sa bahay mo

    akyat bahay ang antigen

    ung antibody yun ung sekyu na lalaban sa akyat bahay

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    #25073
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang antigen yun ung masamang tao papasok sa bahay mo

    akyat bahay ang antigen

    ung antibody yun ung sekyu na lalaban sa akyat bahay
    hahaha thank you ulit Sir Uls sa matiyaga mo na pag-explain. mali pala intindi ko.. [emoji28]

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    #25074
    so science looked for ways to find out if you got infected

    they either look for the virus/parts of the virus or look for antibodies to the virus

    look for the virus = rt-pcr, rapid antigen test

    look for antibodies = eclia, elisa, rapid antibody test

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    #25075
    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    hahaha thank you ulit Sir Uls sa matiyaga mo na pag-explain. mali pala intindi ko.. [emoji28]
    pero dahil bagong virus palang ang sarscov2 wala pa tayo sekyu laban sa sarscov2

    magkakaroon ka lang ng sekyu laban sa sarscov2 pag:

    1 - na-covid ka na

    2 - nabakunahan ka na

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    kaya mag eclia ka misseks para malaman kung may sekyu ka na laban sa sarscov2

    pag meron ka na sekyu laban sa sarscov2, it means you encountered the virus dati
    Last edited by uls; April 20th, 2021 at 01:55 PM.

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    #25076
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    so science looked for ways to find out if you got infected

    they either look for the virus/parts of the virus or look for antibodies to the virus

    look for the virus = rt-pcr, rapid antigen test

    look for antibodies = eclia, elisa, rapid antibody test
    sana may ganitong information na madali lang intindihin na naka-share sa public..

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    #25077
    Quote Originally Posted by Papajamba View Post



    Example of Covid-19 neutralizing antibodies result.
    Take note that the test is done lang para sa mga curious or for convalescent plasma donors but not recommended after getting vaccinated. Need pa rin to practice ang Apat Dapat.




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    Why not recommended after getting vaccinated?


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    not reccommended di naman sinabi bakit

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    it's not recommended in the WEST coz all their vaccines are spike-based

    wala sila inactivated whole virus vaccine

    antibody tests look for antibodies from natural infection -- meaning whole virus

    sinovac is whole virus

    kaya i'm confident antibodies test will work after sinovac injection

    proof na nga ung isang kasama natin dito sa thread
    Last edited by uls; April 20th, 2021 at 02:03 PM.

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    #25079
    shadow huwag mo pansinin ung NOT RECOMMEND na yan

    go get the antibody test

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    antibody test after pfizer/moderna or other spike vaccines may not be accurate

    but that doesn't mean they won't work on those vaccines

    di lang recommended
    Last edited by uls; April 20th, 2021 at 02:21 PM.

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    #25080
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Why not recommended after getting vaccinated?


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    Marami pa kasi uncertainties with regards to Covid-19 especially if the numeutralizong antibodies can ward off all variants. During clinical trials, these neutralizing antibodies were checked too in the participants.
    Just like other vaccines too, you don’t need to do antibody tests right after the vaccine. Years after lang you want to check, if need ng booster shots.
    Also to avoid complacency after vaccination. Baka kasi isipin ng tao na vaccinated at may antibodies na kaya pwede na to let the guard down.


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