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    yung astra spike lang, si sinovac whole virus pero bakit yung pfizer and moderna rna ginamit mas effective? Diba pag whole virus may rna din naman yun? Or dahil sa inactivated, wala na yung rna nya?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    yung astra spike lang, si sinovac whole virus pero bakit yung pfizer and moderna rna ginamit mas effective? Diba pag whole virus may rna din naman yun? Or dahil sa inactivated, wala na yung rna nya?



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    Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Sinovac: A look at three key COVID-19 vaccines - CNA
    Sinovac is an old school vaccine using killed fragments of yhe virus to stimulate the body to produce antibodies against it. The other vaccines are different.
    It will help if you google:
    mRNA, viral vector vaccine & other key words. Self explanatory naman


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    Last edited by bloowolf; April 11th, 2021 at 03:59 PM.

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    Some Metro Manila residents put fake name, address in COVID-19 test: official | ABS-CBN News

    Hirap din trabaho ng contact tracer kung palagi nagsisinungalin yung tao. kaya mahirap ibagsak sa zero yung cases natin.
    its hard to blame some people naman because They are afraid of what will happen if they test positive.
    Dami nila naririnig na tsismis na kapitbahay nung nag positive dinukot daw ng barangay tapos namatay na lang sa hospital or isolation center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Sinovac: A look at three key COVID-19 vaccines - CNA
    Sinovac is an old school vaccine using killed fragments of yhe virus to stimulate the body to produce antibodies against it. The other vaccines are different.
    It will help if you google:
    mRNA, viral vector vaccine & other key words. Self explanatory naman


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    Thanks but just trying to dig why mRNA is much effective to fight c19 when it only uses RNA wherein old school vaccine uses the whole virus which there’s also RNA inside...


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    So lifted na ECQ. MECQ na ano.na ba ginagawa sa MECQ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    So lifted na ECQ. MECQ na ano.na ba ginagawa sa MECQ?


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    Officially announced during the live briefing this afternoon

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    So wala pa rin public transportation under MECQ.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Thanks but just trying to dig why mRNA is much effective to fight c19 when it only uses RNA wherein old school vaccine uses the whole virus which there’s also RNA inside...


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    inactivated virus eh

    the virus contained in the vaccine can no longer enter cells and make copies
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Eh akala ko ba yun sinovac pinaka maganda dahil old technology ginamit? And hind e lang spikes ang alam labanan dahil covid virus na buo talaga pinasok sa katawan ng tao?
    old tech is proven safe coz it's the way vaccines have been made for more than 100 yrs

    kaya mas effective mga spike-oriented vaccines coz concentrated lang sa spike ang antibodies gagawin ng katawan

    ang inactivated whole virus vaccines iba't ibang antibodies ang gagawin and depending on how much vaccine you got

    remember it's inactivated virus -- those will not multiply

    so kung ano dami ng virus sa injection, that's all your immune system will see

    ang mRNA vaccine it sends instructions into you cells to manufacture spike

    as long as the mRNA doesn't degrade yet, it will keep working, your cells will keep making spikes

    kaya very effective -- madami eh

    Tapos yun 50% is doon sa HCW diba? Kaya mababa dahil exposed talaga sila sa meron sakit? Pag regular na tao mas mataas efficacy?
    yes if you're not exposed to a lot of virus, the protection should be better
    Last edited by uls; April 11th, 2021 at 05:22 PM.

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    How about curfew hours still the same under mecq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    So wala pa rin public transportation under MECQ.




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    Meron naman public transpo during ECQ.

    Eto pa kaya same guidelines for MECQ?

    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/d...elines-RRD.pdf


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    Wala mga tamad talaga, bukas pa discuss yung guidelines daw kung kailang first day ng implementation. Sobrang mga inutil talaga saka mga bobo. Nag announced ngaykn pero bukas pa guidelines, hinde talaga kaya yaya ng utak nila yun mag process ng info kaya putol-putol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Wala mga tamad talaga, bukas pa discuss yung guidelines daw kung kailang first day ng implementation. Sobrang mga inutil talaga saka mga bobo. Nag announced ngaykn pero bukas pa guidelines, hinde talaga kaya yaya ng utak nila yun mag process ng info kaya putol-putol.


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    i agree.
    pag-announce, ay dapat pati yung sey-lient points ay announced na rin.
    what is the point in announcing cqcq, if the definition of that cq isn't available for guidance?

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    Kailan si duque, duterte pabakuna ng sinovac? Diba dahilan nila dati seniors sila kaya hinde sila pwede, oh pwede na ngayon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    How about curfew hours still the same under mecq?

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    No change sa curfew hours, for now

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    Hahaha so ano difference? Para lang masabing mecq

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    ^iba na bro. There is public transport in this ECQ.


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    Kahit iba daw cause of death as long as covid positive, counted as covid death according to DOHscreenshot_20210411-180218_twitter.jpg

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