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    #24461
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    1. Dengvaxia
    2. Sir ang tagal na ng covid, hindi man kami tinamaan
    3. Takot po ako magpaturok
    4. Baka lalo ako magka covid
    We have workers who are like that also. Its difficult to force a person to take a vaccine if they don't want it.

    Others dont even want to take a swab test, citing various reasons from chismis - but this is more of a case with construction workers and not office staff.

    Staff are sometimes hesistant to take the vaccine so they can continue to work from home
    Last edited by viper888; April 13th, 2021 at 01:30 AM.

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    ^I remember a case where the employee was swabbed positive. He was in a state of denial so he went to have a saliva test that turned up negative. He was tryng to use it to appeal his case. Appeal denied. Unfortunately, the other workers used that as an example to refuse tests. Pero I think, palusot na lang. Sa vax naman, all these news about AZ side effects is causing apprehension among the less educated.


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    #24464
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Novavax will arrive around July. I have already reserved doses for my employees. I hope magbago isip nila and agree to be inoculated when the vaccine arrives.

    Skeptical pa rin ako sa mRNA vaccines, mas prefer ko old tech like Sinovac and Novavax.
    Nagorder din kami ng Novavax but fine print ng contract is October ang expected date. This is thru Unilab which most likely where you ordered din.
    Baka kasi umasa kayo na July ang dating Wala pang EUA ang Novavax sa India at timeline for India EUA is September.


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    #24465
    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    We have workers who are like that also. Its difficult to force a person to take a vaccine if they don't want it.

    Others dont even want to take a swab test, citing various reasons from chismis - but this is more of a case with construction workers and not office staff.

    Staff are sometimes hesistant to take the vaccine so they can continue to work from home
    dami pa din naniniwala na ginagawa lang daw business swab test for covid. sarap pag-uuntugin

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    #24466
    Saka mga "mayayaman" lang nag kaka covid.


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    dami nga nagsasabi sinasamantala ang pandemic para kumita

    diba yan ang sinasabi ni Raffy Tulfo tungkol sa remdesivir?

    ung mura sa india mahal sa pinas

    ung ivermectin ayaw daw approve kasi mawawalan ng kita mga vaccine maker

    dami ko nababasa ganyan ngayon

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    #24468
    dami misinformation / conspiracy theory ngayon

    pati mga supposedly matalino naniniwala

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    #24469
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    dami nga nagsasabi sinasamantala ang pandemic para kumita

    diba yan ang sinasabi ni Raffy Tulfo tungkol sa remdesivir?

    ung mura sa india mahal sa pinas

    ung ivermectin ayaw daw approve kasi mawawalan ng kita mga vaccine maker

    dami ko nababasa ganyan ngayon
    "manifestations of ignorance and fans of conspiracy theory."
    "it's infectious."

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    at yan pa ang mabilis kumalat

    instead of facts, those crazy theories spread faster

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    Ano ba side effects ng ivermectin? Sabi kasi ng isang advocate, it's been in the market for over 20yrs, and mangyayari lang naman if you take it is ilalabas mo mga bulate sa katawan mo. So what's there to be afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Ano ba side effects ng ivermectin? Sabi kasi ng isang advocate, it's been in the market for over 20yrs, and mangyayari lang naman if you take it is ilalabas mo mga bulate sa katawan mo. So what's there to be afraid.
    ivermectin kills parasites by interfering with their nervous system, paralyzing and eventually killing them

    safe daw yan for mammals coz di makatawid ng blood brain barrier

    pero may risk na makatawid pag mataas ang dosage

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Ano ba side effects ng ivermectin? Sabi kasi ng isang advocate, it's been in the market for over 20yrs, and mangyayari lang naman if you take it is ilalabas mo mga bulate sa katawan mo. So what's there to be afraid.
    it depends.
    are the quoted literature for non-human mammals, or for humen?
    the dosages might be different.

    let us remember that animals don't usually complain about side effects.
    what might be in-evident to the animals, may be very evident to humen.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 13th, 2021 at 11:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it depends.
    are the quoted literature for non-human mammals, or for humen?
    the dosages might be different.

    let us remember that animals don't usually complain about side effects.
    what might be in-evident to the animals, may be very evident to humen.
    Doc, we're obviously talking about humans here Human ivermectin for humans
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    #24475
    In Hong Kong, may hesitancy because Bell's Palsy or paralysis of facial muscles. Applies to both Sinovac and Pfizer-Biontech vaccine....
    Hongkonger suffering facial paralysis after Covid-19 vaccine still recovering following week in hospital | South China Morning Post

    Lam is the 12th known city resident to experience Bell’s palsy after receiving a jab. The others were all men aged between 37 and 86. All of those took the China-made Sinovac jab except for one, who was given a BioNTech shot, the only other Covid-19 vaccine to be offered in Hong Kong so far.

    The government lists Bell’s palsy as a rare side effect of the German-produced BioNTech jabs only.

    Medical experts have found no direct link between the 11 cases and the jabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Doc, we're obviously talking about humans here Human ivermectin for humans
    a few months ago,
    no one in this country would have prescribed it for humans, at human-level doses.
    side-effects are not confined to within a few hours, days, or weeks after ingestion.
    so what do we know about long-term side effects of the drug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    In Hong Kong, may hesitancy because Bell's Palsy or paralysis of facial muscles. Applies to both Sinovac and Pfizer-Biontech vaccine....
    Hongkonger suffering facial paralysis after Covid-19 vaccine still recovering following week in hospital | South China Morning Post

    So totoo nga. Actually may mga videos na akong napanood nyan ng mga Americans in the US developing Bell's Palsy after taking a covid vaccine. Pero this is the first time I read of a story from Asia, that a Hongkonger developed Bell;s Palsy after taking the covid jab

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    In Hong Kong, may hesitancy because Bell's Palsy or paralysis of facial muscles. Applies to both Sinovac and Pfizer-Biontech vaccine....
    Hongkonger suffering facial paralysis after Covid-19 vaccine still recovering following week in hospital | South China Morning Post

    "He is one of 12 in city to suffer the condition after receiving coronavirus jab, but experts say no direct link has been established between those cases and vaccination"



    Correct, 12 pala lang daw so no direct link muna, paabutin muna ng 1,000 cases bago nila sasabihin na may direct link...

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    I'm loving our bishop 😄



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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it depends.
    are the quoted literature for non-human mammals, or for humen?
    the dosages might be different.

    let us remember that animals don't usually complain about side effects.
    what might be in-evident to the animals, may be very evident to humen.
    I asked a Vet & he said oral ivm are generally safe & have a wide safety margin. Injectables have side effects on the injection site. That is just to compare but, he doesn’t really subscribe to it. I’ve said this before. Aussie scientists are the first to study ivm effect on covid & that was last year, around April. Since then they have found no real benefits for it in covid treatment or prevention. Australia has no big pharma vaccine producing companies so, they are not biased. So, any if there is any research on ivm that I will respect, it’s those from the land of Oz.


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