China Corona Virus Outbreak

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and who would voluntarily go to a gov't isolation facility?

iniimagine ko palang... isang kama

yan lang... kama lang

baka may electric fan

bibigyan ka ng isang 350 ml na tubig (maswerte kung 500 ml)

tapos di mo alam kailan o kung may dadating na pagkain...

Puno na rin daw diba? mga mahihirap doon punta, doon dalhin ng baranggay


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[dr. d]

and who would voluntarily go to a gov't isolation facility?

iniimagine ko palang... isang kama

yan lang... kama lang

baka may electric fan

bibigyan ka ng isang 350 ml na tubig (maswerte kung 500 ml)

tapos di mo alam kailan o kung may dadating na pagkain...

binulungan ako ngayon lang.
one entire household of covid suspects. dinala sila ng city hole sa isolation facility.
it was a comfortable-enough hotel daw.
they were "released" after a few days. negative daw.

let us not habitually sell short our government.

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Puno na rin daw diba? mga mahihirap doon punta, doon dalhin ng baranggay


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yata

sa news sabi pati isolation facilities puno na

yan ang point ko... di naman papayag mga middle class/mayaman sa isolation facility sila ilagay

syempre prefer nila matinong ospital

i'm sure meron mga mild cases nasa private hospital rooms ngayon nagpapagaling waiting for negative test para makauwi na

ginawa isolation facility ang ospital

kaya napuno

[uls]

binulungan ako ngayon lang.
one entire household of covid suspects. dinala sila ng city hole sa isolation facility.
it was a comfortable-enough hotel daw.
they were "released" after a few days. negative daw.

let us not habitually sell short our government.

sorry doc ang impression ko talaga sa 3rd world gov't highly incompetent

basta anything operated by gov't doesn't work the way it should

like pag pina-manage mo sa gobyerno ang banyo sigurado barado umaapaw ang tubig na kulay brown na may poop pati ung sahig basang basa ng brown water may poop

that's my impression of gov't facilities

regardless of admin

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yata

sa news sabi pati isolation facilities puno na

yan ang point ko... di naman papayag mga middle class/mayaman sa isolation facility sila ilagay

syempre prefer nila matinong ospital

i'm sure meron mga mild cases nasa private hospital rooms ngayon nagpapagaling waiting for negative test para makauwi na

ginawa isolation facility ang ospital

kaya napuno

Pero ayaw ko pa rin sa hospital kung mild lang dahil andoon ako sa wing ng covid patients.

Saka diba ang guidelinea pag mild hinde naman accept ng hospitals either you will be sent to quarantine site or home.

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[uls]

Pero ayaw ko pa rin sa hospital kung mild lang dahil andoon ako sa wing ng covid patients.

Saka diba ang guidelinea pag mild hinde naman accept ng hospitals either you will be sent to quarantine site or home.

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during the time na maluwag pa mga hospital i think they admit mild cases

but whenever napupuno na they set up triage area outside to assess who goes where

so i think meron overlap from the time di pa puno to the time na puno na

maari ngayon meron pa mga pasyente recovered from mild/moderate waiting for discharge taking up space while there's no room new cases

[Wh1stl3r]

IDK what's really going on right now in hospitals. But we had a hard time finding a hospital that would take my uncle in law who tested positive and was having a lot of difficulty breathing during last year's record breaking spike before this one.

And when a hospital finally accepted him after a few days he had to spend several more days in a tent outside the hospital before he could get a room inside. He was in bad shape but the hospitals were only letting in the more severe cases.

If ever there is fear mongering by the media obviously they are not doing a good job at it given the record number of cases. Partida pa yan may mga di nakasubmit ng data kahapon. Some doctors say the actual number is closer to 12k.



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[uls]

triage decides which cases are more urgent

in extreme scenarios where too many people need to be intubated (kulang ventilators) doctors need to decide to who lives

like who is more likely to survive pag nilagay sa ventilator vs ung sa tingin nila mamamatay parin kahit ilagay sa ventilator

they'll choose the one who is more likely to survive

hirap ng trabaho......

[Flipo]

IDK what's really going on right now in hospitals. But we had a hard time finding a hospital that would take my uncle in law who tested positive and was having a lot of difficulty breathing during last year's record breaking spike before this one.

And when a hospital finally accepted him after a few days he had to spend several more days in a tent outside the hospital before he could get a room inside. He was in bad shape but the hospitals were only letting in the more severe cases.

If ever there is fear mongering by the media obviously they are not doing a good job at it given the record number of cases. Partida pa yan may mga di nakasubmit ng data kahapon. Some doctors say the actual number is closer to 12k.



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PGH, St. Luke's can no longer readily accept severe COVID-19 cases due to full capacity

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[111prez]

....

If ever there is fear mongering by the media obviously they are not doing a good job at it given the record number of cases. Partida pa yan may mga di nakasubmit ng data kahapon. Some doctors say the actual number is closer to 12k.



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And these doctors' estimates would be correct. More accurate on the ground data and feedback.

Salot talaga itong CHINA WUHAN VIRUS.

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PGH, St. Luke's can no longer readily accept severe COVID-19 cases due to full capacity

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So ano sorry na lang? I think this is BS, paano gagawin ng pasyente ikot sa lahat ng hospitals?


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[glenn_duke]

So ano sorry na lang? I think this is BS, paano gagawin ng pasyente ikot sa lahat ng hospitals?


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Tawag sa one hospital command, sila magsabi kung saan ka pupunta base sa symptoms mo.

[BratPAQ]

Pero ayaw ko pa rin sa hospital kung mild lang dahil andoon ako sa wing ng covid patients.

Saka diba ang guidelinea pag mild hinde naman accept ng hospitals either you will be sent to quarantine site or home.

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My aunt died of pneumonia. Nung dinala sa sa hospital, 1st swab negative, after 1 week swab ulit positive na. I feel like kahit hindi ka covid once na admit ka sa hospital eh asahan mo na magakaka covid ka.

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[BratPAQ]

Tawag sa one hospital command, sila magsabi kung saan ka pupunta base sa symptoms mo.

May mga nagsasabi na hindi sure yang one hospital command. May mga taong days ang paghahanap kasi kahit sabihin ng one hospital command na pumunta ka sa ospital na ito, pag dating mo dun pwede ka pa rin hindi tanggihan. Sana maayos nila ito, pag na assign ka na sa ospital na ito dapat as good as admitted ka na.

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[dr. d]

May mga nagsasabi na hindi sure yang one hospital command. May mga taong days ang paghahanap kasi kahit sabihin ng one hospital command na pumunta ka sa ospital na ito, pag dating mo dun pwede ka pa rin hindi tanggihan. Sana maayos nila ito, pag na assign ka na sa ospital na ito dapat as good as admitted ka na.

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i am curious.
how fast is their update information system? and shouldn't their criteria for admission be uniform?
my feeling is, they only consider the bed occupied once the patient is physically there.
that can explain why there are several patients in the lobby, vying for the same bed.
how can this situation be improved?

[Flipo]

So ano sorry na lang? I think this is BS, paano gagawin ng pasyente ikot sa lahat ng hospitals?


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I heard the spokeman of these hospitals interviewed by DZBB, and even dr. Leachon was telling this on his FB covid update last night.

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[uls]

i am curious.
how fast is their update information system? and shouldn't their criteria for admission be uniform?
my feeling is, they only consider the bed occupied once the patient is physically there.
that can explain why there are several patients in the lobby, vying for the same bed.
how can this situation be improved?

there could be people in private rooms right now fully recovered but waiting for negative result while there are people downstairs who can hardly breathe

[dr. d]

there could be people in private rooms right now fully recovered but waiting for negative result while there are people downstairs who can hardly breathe

well,
it's not right to get rid of the former, to accomodate the latter.

besides,
there's no guarantee that the private room will have a stand-by respirator. respirators are usually in the critical-care areas.

[uls]

well,
it's not right to get rid of the former, to accomodate the latter.

besides,
there's no guarantee that the private room will have a stand-by respirator. respirators are usually in the critical-care areas.

well yeah... just saying....


btw doc...

what's your comment re use of high flow nasal oxygen which is non-invasive

kesa intubation

[BratPAQ]

i am curious.
how fast is their update information system? and shouldn't their criteria for admission be uniform?
my feeling is, they only consider the bed occupied once the patient is physically there.
that can explain why there are several patients in the lobby, vying for the same bed.
how can this situation be improved?

According to news articles one hospital command monitors hospital capacity. So it's not a reservation facility. That means dependent sya kung gaano madalas mag update ng Capacity yung hospital. Also pag sinabi na sa hospital na ito may bakante pa, baka pag dating mo sa hospital na yun eh may nauna na.

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