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    #21481
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yun naman tungkol sa booster shot using inactivated vaccine...

    gets ko yun

    let's say you got mRNA vaccine na... since spike focused yan later on di na effective yan against new variants

    so it makes sense mag shot ka ng inactivated vaccine para may proteksyon ka pa kahit papano

    pero syempre ayaw ng mga tao sa ganyan suggestion

    i mean kung nasa pinas ka at nagpaturok ka ng mRNA ibig sabihin you only want the best

    so why would you get a booster shot na china??

    hihintayin mo nalang mag update ng bakuna sila pfizer / moderna
    Hinde ako agree sayo uls. Perception nanaman and image ang sinasabi mo iisipin ng mga nakakuha ng Western vaccine, if ganyan nga hinde ba pwede ang main reason is baka hinde compatible kung magkaiba yun vaccines na nakuha ng isang tao?

    Diba advise ngayon is if you get pfizer tapusin mo pfizer or Moderna mag Moderna ka. Kahit same tech ginamit.

    For example kung ako pfizer nakuha ko then later on lumabas ok lang sinovac ang booster then so be it. Kung yun ang available but since wala pa naman studied eh di stick na lang kung ano unang nakuha mo


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    #21482
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    My impression is that inactivated virus which has shotgun effect is much more harsh to the body because your body will work more thus you will feel side effects but it turns out those who got sinovac has little or no side effects at all compared to those injected with moderna.

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    mas matapang po mRNA kaya 95% efficacy

    my mom got moderna

    after first shot she had headache or felt light-headed yata

    once pumasok mRNA instructions sa cells mo gagawa yan ng madami spike

    di mo alam ilan spikes gagawin ng cells mo

    matindi ang antibody response kaya mataas efficacy

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    ung sa sinovac wala daw masyado mararamdaman side effect coz the amount of antigen is limited

    when it goes into the body it doesn't increase

    di tulad ng mRNA instructions yan... pag pumasok yan gawa nang gawa ng spike hanggang mag degrade ang mRNA

    kaya mababa efficacy ng inactivated virus
    Last edited by uls; March 2nd, 2021 at 01:47 PM.

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    #21483
    New cases of UK, South African variants detected in PH – The Manila Times

    Andito na South african Variant ng Covid.
    diba na reject ng south Africa yung Astra Zeneca dahil it wasn't effective against this South African Variant?
    What was AstraZeneca's efficiency against the South African Variant?

    Arn't we getting the Astr Zeneca vaccine next?
    Baka pag dating nung Astra Zeneca vaccine dito kalat na south african variant.

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    #21484
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde ako agree sayo uls. Perception nanaman and image ang sinasabi mo iisipin ng mga nakakuha ng Western vaccine, if ganyan nga hinde ba pwede ang main reason is baka hinde compatible kung magkaiba yun vaccines na nakuha ng isang tao?

    Diba advise ngayon is if you get pfizer tapusin mo pfizer or Moderna mag Moderna ka. Kahit same tech ginamit.

    For example kung ako pfizer nakuha ko then later on lumabas ok lang sinovac ang booster then so be it. Kung yun ang available but since wala pa naman studied eh di stick na lang kung ano unang nakuha mo


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    Ok

    pero meron talaga mga tao pinaka-importante sa kanila ang brand above all else

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    #21485
    Is there a study of Sinovac given to seniors 70up in other countries? Is it generally safe for our parents and grandparents to take Sinovac?

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    #21486
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Is there a study of Sinovac given to seniors 70up in other countries? Is it generally safe for our parents and grandparents to take Sinovac?

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    A lot of top Hong Kong government officials were vaccinated with Sinovac a week or 2 ago. I guess maraming 70 up sa kanila.
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    #21487
    Dr. Mata is from Davao and a diehard supporter of this admin, and recently has increased his biased towards sinovac. [emoji1787]

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    #21488
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    Dr. Mata is from Davao and a diehard supporter of this admin, and recently has increased his biased towards sinovac. [emoji1787]

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    i know Dr Mata has admin bias

    at least there's a counterbalance to Leachon

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    #21489
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    What's the big deal with this?

    it was delivered to a military airbase (Villamor)

    so news writers say it's for PH military




    pero syempre para sa mga galit sa gobyerno at sa china it's a big deal
    Alam ko mahal mo ang China pero hindi ka ba galit sa gobyerno?

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    #21490
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i know Dr Mata has admin bias

    at least there's a counterbalance to Leachon
    I follow both of them, and Leachon was once the devil's advocate of P. Acosta on dengvaxia, but now and sometimes vacillating locking horn with this admin regarding about covid 19.[emoji3]


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    #21491
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Whats wrong having a vaccine na galing sa china if this would help move our economy and the lives of the people?
    Why so many negative being entertained than positivity?


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    I did not say that having the China Wuhan coronavirus vaccine delivered to PH is wrong. Read again my comment to your post bai. My point is everyone has the right to choose which vaccine to get and the right to speak up/dissent against this inutile and incompetent government. That is what democracy all about. I suppose you work for a multinational company. Does your company reflect the way this government is managing the country?

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    #21492
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Is there a study of Sinovac given to seniors 70up in other countries? Is it generally safe for our parents and grandparents to take Sinovac?

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    18 to 59 years old lang ang sinabi ng FDA sa sinovac.

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    #21493
    Yung kaibigan ko sa Dubai sinovac ang ginamit. Marunong na daw siya mandarin. Most probably I will take this vaccine as well.

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    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #21494
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    I follow both of them, and Leachon was once the devil's advocate of P. Acosta on dengvaxia, but now and sometimes vacillating locking horn with this admin regarding about covid 19.[emoji3]


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    even if Leachon projects that do-gooder image his not-so-good character leaks out

    madami na nakapansin

    binabasa ko mga comments sa fb page niya

    though majority support siya there are those who see thru him

    ung marunong magbasa ng tao... may mali kay Leachon

    parang si James Deakin may mali

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    #21495
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Whats wrong having a vaccine na galing sa china if this would help move our economy and the lives of the people?
    Why so many negative being entertained than positivity?


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    Nothing wrong with vaccine coming from China.

    But do you know there are two other vaccines from China that has better effiacy than SinoVac? one from SinoPharm and CanSino (developed by Canada and Chinese Millitary)

    And have you wondered why this govt is so insistent in getting SinoVac when there are two other Chinese vaccines (of which one was used by PSg and military and preferred by du30 himself)?

    I'll give you a clue . . . https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...81f_story.html

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    #21496
    Saka ano ba issue? If there's one group na meron karapatan tumanggi sa sinovac eh walang iba kundi mga health care workers, they have earned that right to be choosy.

    Tayo meron kapal mukha mag question kung bakit arte-arte nila? Sila ang nasa front and center against covid. Kung ayaw nila sa sinovac so be it.

    Questioning that then you're just an asshole.


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    #21497
    ^Kelangan nga daw start na magbakuna para maka move-on ang ekonomiya, kung hindi paano naman daw yong mahiirap at selfish daw kung choosey. Nalimutan nila na may demokrasya sa Pilipinas, akala ng mga China lovers ay komunista tayo no right to be chosey

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    #21498
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    ^Kelangan nga daw start na magbakuna para maka move-on ang ekonomiya, kung hindi paano naman daw yong mahiirap at selfish daw kung choosey. Nalimutan nila na may demokrasya sa Pilipinas, akala ng mga China lovers ay komunista tayo no right to be chosey
    Malaki na siguro lugi sa negosyo kaya China na lang pag-asa para makabawi.

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    #21499
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Malaki na siguro lugi sa negosyo kaya China na lang pag-asa para makabawi.
    You are absolutely right.

    Maybe you are not affected by this pandemic, or baka pinagkikitaan mo pa etong pandemic. Then good for you.

    But don’t ge oblivious to those who are greatly affected, those who have shut down their businesses, those we were out of jobs, those who have medical conditions or those that are too paranoid and cannot go out of their homes for the past year.

    ALL COVID VACCINES will help us. Many countries have already been inoculating their citizens with China vaccines, pero bakit kinakatakutan natin ang china vaccines?

    If these chuna vaccines will help us start to bring back our normal lives, hindi ba mabuti yun?
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    #21500
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    I did not say that having the China Wuhan coronavirus vaccine delivered to PH is wrong. Read again my comment to your post bai. My point is everyone has the right to choose which vaccine to get and the right to speak up/dissent against this inutile and incompetent government. That is what democracy all about. I suppose you work for a multinational company. Does your company reflect the way this government is managing the country?
    Hahahaha. Sakto gyud bai. Pasagdi nalang na sila kung wa nakasabot.

    At ang binulong ng tsaynis amba kay dootirti ay baka "ser, your mansion in beijing is finished already"

    Salot talaga itong WUHAN CHINA VIRUS

China Corona Virus Outbreak