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    #20481
    notice mRNA vaccines (pfizer, moderna) have higher efficacy than adenoviral vector vaccines (AZN/Oxford, Novavax, J&J)

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    novavax and j&j phase 3 trials are conducted months later compared to pfizer and moderna

    wala pa UK, brazil, south african variants noon so they don't have data

    now novavax and j&J have real world data coz their test subjects were infected with new variants

    less effective nga ang mga bakuna sa south african variant
    Last edited by uls; January 30th, 2021 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "we probably would just had been delaying the imminent."
    but i agree with your angst.
    True.

    But on the other hand if china controlled this much earlier and agressively prevented their people from travelling overseas, then the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS would have been limited to Wuhan or China and the whole world would much likely be in a better place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    True.

    But on the other hand if china controlled this much earlier and agressively prevented their people from travelling overseas, then the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS would have been limited to Wuhan or China and the whole world would much likely be in a better place.
    Exactly!!! The world should make them pay for what they did

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    Where can we buy this saliva test?



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    #20485
    sa red cross lang yata yan Cathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    sa red cross lang yata yan Cathy
    oh maganda sana kasi 3 to 4 hours lang may result na so pwede mong i "hold" muna yung person sa isang lugar. Pag RT PCR kasi what if the person catches the virus in between the 24 to 72 hours

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    Cathy may ako alam rapid saliva test minuto lang may result na at alam ko saan makabili

    Joinstar ang brand syempre made in china

    panoorin mo ito

    ito mismo yun

    sa mga galit sa chinaman wag nyo panoorin haha


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    mura lang yan wala pa 1000 per test kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Cathy may ako alam rapid saliva test minuto lang may result na at alam ko saan makabili

    Joinstar ang brand syempre made in china

    panoorin mo ito

    ito mismo yun

    sa mga galit sa chinaman wag nyo panoorin haha

    I can't watch pala, just kidding lol
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    mura lang yan wala pa 1000 per test kit
    Accurate kaya like sa red cross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I can't watch pala, just kidding lol

    Accurate kaya like sa red cross?

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    i don't think so.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I can't watch pala, just kidding lol

    Accurate kaya like sa red cross?

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    I can imagine people having a blast getting their stool samples for this. Ito yung part ng APE na ayaw na ayaw ko.

    I am sure that the PRC (Phil Red Cross ha) looked at all test kits available in the world and made their selection based on evidence and facts.

    Any test, all tests, are fair game. All are worth looking into provided it is not merely supported by an obviously praise release video. So, where are the scientific findings and results on accuracy and testing for this test? Bakit wala sa radar ito ang gayun pa man baka nga may dahilan bakit wala talaga sa radar ito. Paki research at publish nga at mahusgahan ng mabuti. At sulatan ang PRC at goberyo na ito ang tumpak na test result.

    Pag wala yang scientific, transparent, open, peer reviewed, and factual results, pure propaganda lang ang video na yan para sa lahat ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS apologists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i don't think so.....
    ang taas kasi ng accuracy ng sa red cross na saliva, even higher than RT PCR

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    I can imagine people having a blast getting their stool samples for this. Ito yung part ng APE na ayaw na ayaw ko.

    I am sure that the PRC (Phil Red Cross ha) looked at all test kits available in the world and made their selection based on evidence and facts.

    Any test, all tests, are fair game. All are worth looking into provided it is not merely supported by an obviously praise release video. So, where are the scientific findings and results on accuracy and testing for this test? Bakit wala sa radar ito ang gayun pa man baka nga may dahilan bakit wala talaga sa radar ito. Paki research at publish nga at mahusgahan ng mabuti. At sulatan ang PRC at goberyo na ito ang tumpak na test result.

    Pag wala yang scientific, transparent, open, peer reviewed, and factual results, pure propaganda lang ang video na yan para sa lahat ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS apologists.

    hahaha! Sa stool sample sa annual parati ako nagpapa excempt. Ginawa ko lang yan before for initial med exam for employment

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    wala naman paki mga chinaman sa western standards

    basta gagawa sila ng test kit mass production mabilis for domestic use and export kaya meron na sa Pinas yan late last year pa

    radar?

    kung puro TV news lang pinapanood mo and reading new articles syempre di mapipick up ng radar mo

    dami nangyayari sa mundo di nacocover ng media

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    wala naman paki mga chinaman sa western standards

    basta gagawa sila ng test kit mass production mabilis for domestic use and export kaya meron na sa Pinas yan late last year pa

    radar?

    kung puro TV news lang pinapanood mo and reading new articles syempre di mapipick up ng radar mo

    dami nangyayari sa mundo di nacocover ng media
    Wow, mali pala ang news at TV. Sorry at mahina pala radar namin

    Eh magaling at intelektual ka pala di ilabas mo na ang resulta ng saliva, sputum at poopoo test ng tsina at rekomenda mo sa PRC na ito gamitin sa testing ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS


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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Wow, mali pala ang news at TV.
    Hindi mali. Kulang-kulang lang.

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    MODERATOR'S NOTE: Before this escalates, let's not call out other members please

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    MODERATOR'S NOTE: Before this escalates, let's not call out other members please
    Apologies for this Cathy.

    Just reacting to those who are fond of drawing "First Blood", not just in this thread but extending to other unconnected threads as well.

    Post and let post. And continue to be civil.

    Thanks for the call out and reminder. Much appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Apologies for this Cathy.

    Just reacting to those who are fond of drawing "First Blood", not just in this thread but extending to other unconnected threads as well.

    Post and let post. And continue to be civil.

    Thanks for the call out and reminder. Much appreciated
    Thanks. I appreciate your posts as well and value the contribution of long time/pioneer members

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    #20500
    nabalitaan nyo na yun latest swab test?
    instant 10 sec result daw
    makakatulong ito sa pagbawas ng cases
    sana implement agad.

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