China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dreamur]

Bakit kaya kung mag susupport yung isa tao sa vaccine kahit galing pa china sasabihin pro du30 na agad? Hindi ba pwede na concern lang siya sa mamayanan na gusto umahon ang economy para bukas may maipapakain sila sa kanilang pamilya?

Yung mga willing mag hintay ng western vaccines, tama si bruh boybi, yun yung mga taong kahit sa 2022 pa dumating ay may kakainin pa rin sila araw2... tapos batikos ulit kay du30, keso ganito, kesa ganyan...


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Hindi na ba pwedeng babatikosin si digong dahil may China Wuhan virus vaccine na sa pinas? Using your argument, it also doesn't mean that if one opts for the other brand or ayaw sa vaccine ay anti govt na agad and may makakain araw2. Hindi ba pwede mga Persida Acosta followers lang?

[shadow]

So meron na pala PO tayo for 1M vaccines sa sinovac darating daw ngayon march. Sana mag pautang na China lista-lista na lang muna tutal BFF namana natin. Every month 10M vaccines padala dito


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[Deestone]

Some of our employees who resides in pasay city is force to file a leave due to lockdown in some of barangays in Pasay with sudden high cases. A colleague of mine who tested negative in rapid but tested positive in saliva test the following day was force to file her leave.

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[Tha_Mann]

gaya nga ng nabanggit dito, kulang kasi ng information drive ang government about sa Chinese vaccine. with the vaccine scare that they've created, they should launch a massive information drive to erase the fears of the people. ano ginagawa ng PCOO? ano ba naman na mag allot sila ng commercial sa mga tv stations for this. back it up with medical and scientific explanations hindi puro "thank you bff China, we owe you a lot" lang hehe.

[shadow]

gaya nga ng nabanggit dito, kulang kasi ng information drive ang government about sa Chinese vaccine. with the vaccine scare that they've created, they should launch a massive information drive to erase the fears of the people. ano ginagawa ng PCOO? ano ba naman na mag allot sila ng commercial sa mga tv stations for this. back it up with medical and scientific explanations hindi puro "thank you bff China, we owe you a lot" lang hehe.

Activate nila mga trolls nila. Nasaan ba kasi napunta yun "I'm so sad meron ako naka sabay na mag amang chinese sa elevator, they gave way sa amin"


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[111prez]

Now it can be said who smuggled the China Wuhan virus vaccine to the Philippines.

China's PLA provides COVID-19 vaccines to Philippine military - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Whoa, is the press release here referring to the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS baksin that was delivered last Sunday and personally received by dootirti? Kaya pala tsyanis military plane ang nag deliver.

If so, there is a big disconnect with the intention of the request as far as tsayna is concerned since ang naturukan dito at batay sa press release natin, ay mga health workers - sibilyan at militar.

So, ano ba talaga ang kuwento sa dumating na baksin na yan? Donation ba talaga para sa bansa? Donasyon lang sa militar? Totoong donasyon ba talaga yan?

[Deestone]

I remember before he says that mRNA is not suited for senior adults with pre existing illness because of adverse reaction of the vaccine in our body so inactivated is a much safer choice of vaccine. But his post today tells us otherwise.

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[uls]

What's the big deal with this?

it was delivered to a military airbase (Villamor)

so news writers say it's for PH military




pero syempre para sa mga galit sa gobyerno at sa china it's a big deal

[ray_noel]

Hindi na ba pwedeng babatikosin si digong dahil may China Wuhan virus vaccine na sa pinas? Using your argument, it also doesn't mean that if one opts for the other brand or ayaw sa vaccine ay anti govt na agad and may makakain araw2. Hindi ba pwede mga Persida Acosta followers lang?

Whats wrong having a vaccine na galing sa china if this would help move our economy and the lives of the people?
Why so many negative being entertained than positivity?


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[uls]

I remember before he says that mRNA is not suited for senior adults with pre existing illness because of adverse reaction of the vaccine in our body so inactivated is a much safer choice of vaccine. But his post today tells us otherwise.

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Dr Mata is saying inactivated virus vaccine makes the body make antibodies against various parts of the virus

unlike vaccines that focus only on the spike

if there are changes to the spike, the spike-focused vaccines become less effective

pero pag meron ka antibodies sa ibang parts ng virus, kahit nagbago ang spike, may panlaban parin sa virus

[Ry_Tower]

Wala kasing information drive ang govt to promote the vaccines, whether china vax or western vax. Very quiet ang authorities regarding this. So where does the people get info regarding vaccines? Sa fake news laden socmed.

Wala naman binabanggit si dutertebsa mga speaches nya na safe ang china vax, or any other vax.

And then yung mga doctors and staff pa ng PGH sasabihin ayaw nila china vax, syempre ayaw na din ng mga HCW from other govt hospitals and RHUs.

Yan sinasabi ko, trabaho sana ng gobyerno na ipush ang trust rating sa bakuna kasi nga sa naging takot sa dengvaxia mess na sila (admin ngayon) din naman nagpalaki ng isyu nung nakaupo na.

Kaso ang dami - hindi naman lahat ng ginawa nila mali - ng kapalpakan na mas lalo tuloy nagduda karamihan ng taumbayan sa vaccine na sinusulong nila. Sa kalaunan, kahit DDS nga nagdadalawang esep na magpaturok ng sinovac. Hindi din nakatulong na si PDuts eh hindi nagpaturok in public. Tingin ko if ginawa niya yan malaking hatak kasi siya naman at hindi mga cabinet members, PSG or kung sino pa ang binoto ng 16M followers eh. Sayang, siya lang may kakayahan sana na iangat ang imahe ng sinovac kaso kulang ang ginawa imho. Information drive din kulang nga. At dapat naman inasahan na nila na yung mga galit sa China because of WPS issue plus kaya maghintay eh babatikusin talaga mga actions nila at most probably magsasabi sa socmed na hindi sila papaturok niyan.

I agree na kung ayaw mo sa sinovac, keep it to yourself and just say you want a better one if it's your friends and family members who will ask. Pero if isang trabahador or ordinaryong tao, aba eh sabihin mo ang totoo, kung libre, take it. If duda ka talaga kahit pa nagpaturok na mga taga-PGH at cabinet member, pwede pa din pass. That would be the best compromise imho. Para makatulong tayo sa bansa.

Pero dito sa tsikot, don't expect majority of forumers to embrace sinovac. Again (a)questionable data; (b) same price with better vaccines (at leats based on current data); (c) capacity to wait because of financial capacity and the lack of need to heavily socialize and interact with a lot of people and truthfully; (d) WPS issue (sowed distrust for China); which brings me to (d) the price of the vaccine is not prohibitive enough that the maxim "beggars cant be choosy" will apply. Disciplined as well as to hygiene except maybe Kags.

[boybi]

Dr Mata is saying inactivated virus vaccine makes the body make antibodies against various parts of the virus

unlike vaccines that focus only on the spike

if there are changes to the spike, the spike-focused vaccines become less effect

pero pag meron ka antibodies sa ibang parts ng virus, kahit nagbago ang spike, may panlaban parin sa virus

So does this mean the china vax is more effective against the different mutations of the virus?

[Deestone]

Dr Mata is saying inactivated virus vaccine makes the body make antibodies against various parts of the virus

unlike vaccines that focus only on the spike

if there are changes to the spike, the spike-focused vaccines become less effect

pero pag meron ka antibodies sa ibang parts ng virus, kahit nagbago ang spike, may panlaban parin sa virus

Yes and he also recommending right now those who got mRNA pfizer/moderna should get booster shot of sinovac/sinopharm. Im just puzzled before because he says that mRNA is much harsh when injected to the body now he is saying this is just like a shot at the hand compared to sinovac's shotgun.

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[boybi]

Yes and he also recommending right now those who got mRNA pfizer/moderna should get booster shot of sinovac/sinopharm. Im just puzzled before because he says that mRNA is much harsh when injected to the body now he is saying this is just like a shot at the hand compared to sinovac's shotgun.

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Maybe Dr Mata is referring to the effect on the virus. mRNA parang nabaril lang virus sa kamay, whereas inactivated virus hits the whole body of the virus.

[uls]

So does this mean the china vax is more effective against the different mutations of the virus?

theoretically yes

actually meron mga doctor ganyan ang thinking kaya willing sila magpaturok ng inactivated vaccine

actually yan ang prefer nila over hi tech vaccines

yan din thinking ko... i posted about that before....

pero wala pa studies confirming inactivated vaccines are more effective against mutations vs spike-focused vaccines

[uls]

Yes and he also recommending right now those who got mRNA pfizer/moderna should get booster shot of sinovac/sinopharm. Im just puzzled before because he says that mRNA is much harsh when injected to the body now he is saying this is just like a shot at the hand compared to sinovac's shotgun.

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i think may mali sa iyong interpretation of "shotgun"

you're interpreting shotgun as dangerous

what Dr Mata meant by shotgun is -- inactivated vaccine creates many different antibodies targeting different parts of the virus

ung spike focused vaccine "shot in the hand" coz targeted lang sa spike ng virus ang antibodies... unharmed ang ibang parts ng virus

ang shotgun iba't ibang parts ng virus ang target

[uls]

yun naman tungkol sa booster shot using inactivated vaccine...

gets ko yun

let's say you got mRNA vaccine na... since spike focused yan later on di na effective yan against new variants

so it makes sense mag shot ka ng inactivated vaccine para may proteksyon ka pa kahit papano

pero syempre ayaw ng mga tao sa ganyan suggestion

i mean kung nasa pinas ka at nagpaturok ka ng mRNA ibig sabihin you only want the best

so why would you get a booster shot na china??

hihintayin mo nalang mag update ng bakuna sila pfizer / moderna

[Deestone]

i think may mali sa iyong interpretation of "shotgun"

you're interpreting shotgun as dangerous

what Dr Mata meant by shotgun is -- inactivated vaccine creates many different antibodies targeting different parts of the virus

ung spike focused vaccine "shot in the hand" coz targeted lang sa spike ng virus ang antibodies... unharmed ang ibang parts ng virus

ang shotgun iba't ibang parts ng virus ang target

My impression is that inactivated virus which has shotgun effect is much more harsh to the body because your body will work more thus you will feel side effects but it turns out those who got sinovac has little or no side effects at all compared to those injected with moderna.

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[Deestone]

Any guesses or maybe a pirated version of pfizer? Lol.

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[ray_noel]

Any guesses or maybe a pirated version of pfizer? Lol.

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Baka nag i love you kay du30... kaya nahihiya sabihin kung ano yun... [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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