Water heater for Showers

[12vdc]

ELCB is useless without a proper grounding.

The cheapest water heater comes with free pampagising. just touch the water in the pail your'e heating then its an instant gising.

[2lits17]

ELCB is useless without a proper grounding.

The cheapest water heater comes with free pampagising. just touch the water in the pail your'e heating then its an instant gising.

wala ng ground yun mga bagong ganyan. i just bought one nung december, pag mahina tubig hinde kaya ng heater yan ginagamit ko.
stainless na din daw yun internals unlike yun mga naunang version nakakamatay yun ground tapos ang dumi ng nilalabas ng heating element.

[dr. d]

ELCB is useless without a proper grounding.

The cheapest water heater comes with free pampagising. just touch the water in the pail your'e heating then its an instant gising.

dalawa models nyan.
pang-nawasa water, at pang-deep well water.
puede bang palit-an?

[kagalingan]

Our Joven 2000 heater finally gave up after ~15yrs.

New heater installed is Alpha brand. I did some mods to make it work even under low pressure/flow of water.



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Malupit yang joven 2000 na yan. Sa amin muntik na ata umabot 20years. Nagleak wala ng parts. Mura lang yung part na yun pero hindi nagstock yung dealer kasi nirerequire sila bumila 1000pcs. Eh ang tagal masira matetenga yun.

Bale bago na din shower namin pero joven pa din. Iba na daw parts ng bago mas matibay daw yung joven 2000. May ini-explain yung technician bakit daw matibay yan. Maghahanap ako sa aliexpess baka may mabibili baka sakali meron eh another 20years ulit.

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Malupit yang joven 2000 na yan. Sa amin muntik na ata umabot 20years. Nagleak wala ng parts. Mura lang yung part na yun pero hindi nagstock yung dealer kasi nirerequire sila bumila 1000pcs. Eh ang tagal masira matetenga yun.

Bale bago na din shower namin pero joven pa din. Iba na daw parts ng bago mas matibay daw yung joven 2000. May ini-explain yung technician bakit daw matibay yan. Maghahanap ako sa aliexpess baka may mabibili baka sakali meron eh another 20years ulit.

Mura pa.joven.


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[kagalingan]

oo mura parang 2,500 or less pa nabili decades ago.

Ito itsura nyan nakita ko sa yahoo image




Kahit ondoy level baha as in lumubog yung shower heater eh ayos pa din. Pinalitan lang ng parts na worth under 300pesos.

And gusto ko yung temperature nyan kasi matitimpla mo talaga direcho lang yung rotate ng dial. Nacompare ko yan sa ibang shower pag tulog ako sa bahay friend ko eh yung sa kanila eh pag rotate may click-click so yung init hindi gradual changes, either bitin sa init or over init.

Ang nakakainis naman kay joven malaysia eh alam nila matibay eh biglang tinigil pagproduce ng model na yan.

Pansin ko din sa malls wala joven. Matibay kasi so hindi mapapabili agad.

Ang bulok na brand yung champs trimark( pero hindi ako yung gumamit, nagtanong sa akin ano maganda shower heater so inadvisan ko joven)

[shadow]

oo mura parang 2,500 nabili decades ago.

Ito itsura nyan nakita ko sa yahoo image




Kahit ondoy level baha as in lumubog yung shower heater eh ayos pa din. Pinalitan lang ng parts na worth under 300pesos.

Ang nakakainis naman kay joven malaysia eh alam nila matibay eh biglang tinigil pagproduce ng model na yan.

Pansin ko din sa malls wala joven. Matibay kasi so hindi mapapabili agad.

Ang bulok na brand yung champs trimark( pero hindi ako yung gumamit, nagtanong sa akin ano maganda shower heater so inadvisan ko joven)

Sa T. ALONZO mura.joven.


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[dr. d]

anubah...
meron ba o walang joven?

[kagalingan]

sha, oo doon naman talaga mabibili yan.
doc, meron joven pero phasedout na yung 2000e model. Madami choice ng tindahan sa t.alonzo street.

Ito na yung entry level. 3,300 ko nabili yung 510 model. Sana umabot 10years.

[papi smith]

ELCB is useless without a proper grounding.

The cheapest water heater comes with free pampagising. just touch the water in the pail your'e heating then its an instant gising.

Sir 12vdc, would you know how I can fix this? This outlet is for water heater. But there is no ground wire. I bought the stiebel eltron that I saw posted here. Thanks.

[papi smith]

Here's the unit I bought...

[kagalingan]

^

No free kabit doon sa service center?

[travajante]

Sir 12vdc, would you know how I can fix this? This outlet is for water heater. But there is no ground wire. I bought the stiebel eltron that I saw posted here. Thanks.

Where are you installing your heater? Anywhere near an exposed rebar that may run all the way below ground? All outlets should have a standard 3rd earth line by code, sir. Can't you have your electrician add? Use the universal 3-prong.

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[Walter]

Steibel Eltron heaters have free installation. Maybe you can tap the ground onto the pipes? Some installers don't even tap the ground wire.

[travajante]

Steibel Eltron heaters have free installation. Maybe you can tap the ground onto the pipes? Some installers don't even tap the ground wire.

Pipes now are either PPR or PVC.

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[JohnM]

Pipes now are either PPR or PVC.

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What's the diff pala between the common PVC and more expensive PPR? Longevity?

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[travajante]

What's the diff pala between the common PVC and more expensive PPR? Longevity?

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Fusion welds on way thicker PPR vs PVC glue. Longevity & pressure/tension thresholds. When done right, PPR joints have greater chances to be leak-free from the get go & would remain so. PVC more hit/miss + w/ constant water hammering, they can leak after a while.

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[Wh1stl3r]

PPR are rated for much higher pressure vs PVC. I use them for high pressure air lines.

[Lew_Alcindor]

Where are you installing your heater? Anywhere near an exposed rebar that may run all the way below ground? All outlets should have a standard 3rd earth line by code, sir. Can't you have your electrician add? Use the universal 3-prong.

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Boss, sorry for asking you this. Our rented house (an old one like more than 50 years old hahaha) is modeled after an American house (much like the rest in the neighborhood).

Kaya naman ang mga socket namin ay 240V at 120V sa isang outlet (in pairs yan). Problema is yung normal plug natin yung 120V haha. But DIY guy naman ako so kinonvert ko sila sa 240V and during the process napansin ko nga yung 3 wires. Yung 2 wires ay 120V each at isang ground wire.

How do they do make wire? Additional cost ba ito kung magpapagawa ka ng bahay tapos may ground wiring all over the house.

[travajante]

Boss, sorry for asking you this. Our rented house (an old one like more than 50 years old hahaha) is modeled after an American house (much like the rest in the neighborhood).

Kaya naman ang mga socket namin ay 240V at 120V sa isang outlet (in pairs yan). Problema is yung normal plug natin yung 120V haha. But DIY guy naman ako so kinonvert ko sila sa 240V and during the process napansin ko nga yung 3 wires. Yung 2 wires ay 120V each at isang ground wire.

How do they do make wire? Additional cost ba ito kung magpapagawa ka ng bahay tapos may ground wiring all over the house.

In this case, just identify the specific outlets where you'll plug your appliances that ideally need grounding.... like heaters, ACs, fridges, kitchen equipment, etc. Have your electrician route an earth line for those to save on cost.

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