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    I am currently budgeting for this para maka bili sa bonus

    any recommendations on reasonably priced brands and kung san maganda bumili?

    thanks

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    Punta ka Binondo yun joven brand walapNg 2k
    Single Lang yan ha hinde multi point

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Punta ka Binondo yun joven brand walapNg 2k
    Single Lang yan ha hinde multi point

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    thanks sa reply sir shadow, san po sa binondo and any shop in particular?

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    thanks sa reply sir shadow, san po sa binondo and any shop in particular?
    T Alonzo street corner soler tapat ng arranque market. Isa Sa hardware doom ako nakabili


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    I want to buy a Panasonic. Where's it best to buy (lots of choices and good price) The last time I bought was 20 yrs ago at MC Home depot ata in Ortigas

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I want to buy a Panasonic. Where's it best to buy (lots of choices and good price) The last time I bought was 20 yrs ago at MC Home depot ata in Ortigas
    robinsons, shoomart...
    these buys usually now come with "free installation". they will install the thing for you, "free of charge". but you will pay (thru the nose) for the accessories they will use in the installation.

    i suspect, the manufacturer, like car makers, practice price control across the metro.
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    shadow,
    meron din bang ibang brands na available sa binondo? am looking at champs sana, baka mas mura don kaysa sa Ace/Handyman.

    thanks
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    finally naka bili na ako panasonic 3.5kw, single point. sa mc home depot ako bumili... hopefully ma install na tomorrow , medyo malamig na ngyon pag umaga

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    Maki ride na rin. Ano ok na brand para sa shower tapos pati yung sa tub/jacuzzi? Yan ba yung mga multi point kelangan? Thanks

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    I use Panasonic for my bathroom. It's over 10 years old na. I still see the exact same model in stores. I bought it at Ortigas Home Depot for about 8k ata.

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    Yung 3 units na Champs na in-install ko sa house ng mother ko 14 years na ok pa din, pinapalitan lang yung hose and shower head pag naputol ang hose pero yung heater mismo no problem kahit minsan.

    In our new house now we have 3 Ariston heaters, mag 3 years na. No problems so far except for the one in the master's bedroom which is a different model, once in a while the overtemp breaker will trip so i need to reset. Gusto ko na nga i-bypass e since i need to open the cover everytime. Yung guess room namin walang heater, hayan kong manigas ang bwisita para di magtagal hehehe!
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    The thing to consider is build quality and safety features. Remember, electricity and water is involved here... two things that don't usually party well with each other.

    When shopping for a model, look for one with a built-in sensor that detects voltage/current 'leakage', which translates to a potential that the user might be electrocuted. On the two water heaters that we use, these are called ELB (Earth Leakage Breaker) on the Panasonic and ELSD (Electricity Leakage Sensing Device) on the AEG.

    With these protection devices, you'll be safe if the heater core or its electronics develops a problem and starts leaking electricity into the water or anywhere electricity shouldn't exist. As soon as the safety mechanism above detects this electricity leak, it shuts off an internal breaker.

    Equally important is to properly connect the heater ground wire (the green wire) to earth ground or alternatively, to a metal pipe that has several meters of its length buried underground. This is one of those things that your life depends on.

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    Better check first your water pressure if youre planning to install those pressure activated heaters.. I tried Champ and its useless for low pressure(pressure switch wont engage), i ended up trimming the spring w/c automatically voided the warrentey. Didnt experience any problems with my 15yo Stiebel Eltron orig Germany, daily use never missed heating my shower even at low pressure. Multipoint model is very sturdy too since this is what i got at home. I dunno how good the newer Indonesian or Thai made? Handyman carries this brand and some hardware at T.Alonzo.

    These heaters are generally safe if you wire it correctly and periodically inspect wires for chaffing, enclosure for cracks.. Ingress Protection is standard for these kinds of industrial and home heating devices.

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    panasonic din yun mulitpoint ko. free installation naman before....hinde ko na maalala yun price...sa mga guest rooms single point na joven...sobrang mura wala pang 2k

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    The thing to consider is build quality and safety features. Remember, electricity and water is involved here... two things that don't usually party well with each other.

    When shopping for a model, look for one with a built-in sensor that detects voltage/current 'leakage', which translates to a potential that the user might be electrocuted. On the two water heaters that we use, these are called ELB (Earth Leakage Breaker) on the Panasonic and ELSD (Electricity Leakage Sensing Device) on the AEG.

    With these protection devices, you'll be safe if the heater core or its electronics develops a problem and starts leaking electricity into the water or anywhere electricity shouldn't exist. As soon as the safety mechanism above detects this electricity leak, it shuts off an internal breaker.

    Equally important is to properly connect the heater ground wire (the green wire) to earth ground or alternatively, to a metal pipe that has several meters of its length buried underground. This is one of those things that your life depends on.
    question po, pag wala ELSD yong heater unit, would a circuit breaker address this issue?? am considering some brands na wala ELSD, just want to confirm kung totoo yong sinasabi ng sales agent. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    question po, pag wala ELSD yong heater unit, would a circuit breaker address this issue?? am considering some brands na wala ELSD, just want to confirm kung totoo yong sinasabi ng sales agent. thanks
    Yup. Ganyan naman old school dati pag install ng water heater. Meron breaker, fuse pa pala gamit before. Hehehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    question po, pag wala ELSD yong heater unit, would a circuit breaker address this issue?? am considering some brands na wala ELSD, just want to confirm kung totoo yong sinasabi ng sales agent. thanks
    Apologies that my answer is 6 years delayed....

    ELSD prevents you from being electrocuted while taking a shower in case there's an internal fault. If it senses 'leaking' voltages where it shouldn't be (ie. the water coming out, pipes, heater body or chassis), it sends a signal to its internal breaker to trip, shutting off power to the heater. Remember, it doesn't take much electricity to kill you and you'll be long dead before the current can rise up to a level that can trip the breaker in your home so this feature is absolutely a lifesaver.

    On all our water heaters, there's a "Test" button that you can press to test if the ELSD is working. When pressed, the heater should immediately shutdown. You can then push another button to reset it.

    Look for this feature when you're in the market for such products.

    Equally important is good grounding. This will be your last defense in case the heater together with the ELSD fails.
    Last edited by oj88; January 30th, 2020 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Yung guess room namin walang heater, hayan kong manigas ang bwisita para di magtagal hehehe!
    Same here bro...: grin:

    Wifey has multipoint, so with the kids... i do not have... Sigaw lang ang katapat.....:hysterical:

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    Have been using Champs for the past 6 years, still working fine up to now.

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    Just checked. We are using a couple of units of Stiebel Eltron for over nine years now and both are still humming....

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