Smartphone and Cellphone Wars

[jut703]

Hope they release a Note 20 lite with just the battery and screen size reduced(6.2-6.4), 2 rear cams (main and ultrawide) but still with wireless charging (reduced speed maybe 15watt and 25watt for wired charging) and ip68 rating.

Edi exactly same spec na yun as Note 10 hehe.

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[Ry_Tower]

Edi exactly same spec na yun as Note 10 hehe.

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2 rear cam ba note 10? Note 9 yung dalawa lang.

Tsaka kahit 90refresh rate lang at FHD lang basta dynamic amoled. Hehehe.

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[jut703]

2 rear cam ba note 10? Note 9 yung dalawa lang.

Tsaka kahit 90refresh rate lang at FHD lang basta dynamic amoled. Hehehe.

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3 rear cam ang Note 10, FHD with Dynamic AMOLED.

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[Ry_Tower]

3 rear cam ang Note 10, FHD with Dynamic AMOLED.

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So pwede pa nga Note 20 lite. Kahit 3 cams pa pero less effective para pasok sa P35K budget.

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[jut703]

So pwede pa nga Note 20 lite. Kahit 3 cams pa pero less effective para pasok sa P35K budget.

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Never got the point of these Lite models - why don't they just continue selling last year's model if it comes with the same specs anyway?

I would've been in the market to upgrade if Samsung would make a 6.3" sized Note 20 with top-spec features. Bigger screen isn't always better.

Apple does this very well - iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone 11 Pro, and the confirmed iPhone 12 Pro. All reasonably sized.

I know Samsung has the S20 as the equivalent, but the S20 has less internal memory and the cameras aren't a significant upgrade vs the Note 10 that's why I didn't get an S20 when it came out.

Let's see if the S30 will be any better since the Note 20 looks like a NO for me already.

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[Ry_Tower]

Never got the point of these Lite models - why don't they just continue selling last year's model if it comes with the same specs anyway?

I would've been in the market to upgrade if Samsung would make a 6.3" sized Note 20 with top-spec features. Bigger screen isn't always better.

Apple does this very well - iPhone X, iPhone XS, iPhone 11 Pro, and the confirmed iPhone 12 Pro. All reasonably sized.

I know Samsung has the S20 as the equivalent, but the S20 has less internal memory and the cameras aren't a significant upgrade vs the Note 10 that's why I didn't get an S20 when it came out.

Let's see if the S30 will be any better since the Note 20 looks like a NO for me already.

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And hopefully the S30 will have the under display camera and graphene battery (longbshot thoug) and a better refresh rate in conjunction with battery endurance and screen quality levels.

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[jut703]

Samsung got hit worse than Apple in the pandemic and I think it's largely due to their S20 which only sold half vs their S10 in the same period.



They touted it as having the best camera ever but ended up falling short of the iPhone 11 and even its own Note 10 at times.

Meanwhile, Apple is making a killing with an affordable iPhone 11 and iPhone SE. iPhone 12's lineup also looks more promising vs the Note 20, so Apple will likely score another win there.

In the low end, Xiaomi and Huawei will inevitably grow faster than Samsung especially with a stronger local market. So it's pressure from both sides for the world's biggest smartphone manufacturer to get their act together and release good products once again.

Their last big win was the Note 10 release but unlikely to repeat that this year with an underwhelming Note 20 - I'd be happy to be proven wrong on this though.

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[EQAddict]

I was waiting for the note 20 ultra. Am a note fanboi. But seems not such of a big upgrade over my note 10+

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[ice15]

Samsung got hit worse than Apple in the pandemic and I think it's largely due to their S20 which only sold half vs their S10 in the same period.

I think naka-2 years (or more) nang best seller ng Samsung ang "A" series

Top Android smartphones: These are the best-selling phones in the 'post-premium era' | ZDNet

The Galaxy S line isn’t selling well anymore, and that could be a good thing | Android Authority

IMO, Samsung's "S" line is more of a demo unit of various phone parts na available from Samsung.

Camera+Screen+Phone+Memory+Processor

Same time, flagship sila pareho ng Note. - pero 2020 na ano pa ba ang pwede nila ilagay sa phone para pilahan sya ulit ng possible buyers?

Halos incremental improvement na lang from last Gen...

[StockEngine]

no bueno if this is true...



In a shock, the Galaxy Note 2 could be stuck with Samsung's underwhelming Exynos 99 SoC - NotebookCheck.net News

[Ry_Tower]

Samsung should really improve their exynos for their flagship or just use SD chips. Even if SD remain better , if exynos could come even at 98% performance and battery efficiency or even just equally good, that would be acceptable imho.

[jut703]

I think naka-2 years (or more) nang best seller ng Samsung ang "A" series

Top Android smartphones: These are the best-selling phones in the 'post-premium era' | ZDNet

The Galaxy S line isn’t selling well anymore, and that could be a good thing | Android Authority

IMO, Samsung's "S" line is more of a demo unit of various phone parts na available from Samsung.

Camera+Screen+Phone+Memory+Processor

Same time, flagship sila pareho ng Note. - pero 2020 na ano pa ba ang pwede nila ilagay sa phone para pilahan sya ulit ng possible buyers?

Halos incremental improvement na lang from last Gen...

The second article doesn't take into full account the Note, which has increased in significance vis a vis the S in recent years. More people who go for flagships go for a Note rather an S these days. Ancedotal, but most of us with Samsung phones in the office have Notes instead of S.

Galaxy Note 1 sales shatter previous records in South Korea - SamMobile


As for upgrades, typically new design and class-leading cameras are what people upgrade for. The S20 and Note 20 don't offer either of that vs the S10/Note 10. On the other side of the fence, the iPhone 11 was a significant step up camera-wise vs the XS. And the 12 is an all-new design altogether.

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[ice15]

OnePlus’ midrange Nord announced with 90Hz display, dual selfie cameras, and 5G | The Verge

[ice15]

The second article doesn't take into full account the Note, which has increased in significance vis a vis the S in recent years. More people who go for flagships go for a Note rather an S these days. Ancedotal, but most of us with Samsung phones in the office have Notes instead of S.

Galaxy Note 1? sales shatter previous records in South Korea - SamMobile


As for upgrades, typically new design and class-leading cameras are what people upgrade for. The S20 and Note 20 don't offer either of that vs the S10/Note 10. On the other side of the fence, the iPhone 11 was a significant step up camera-wise vs the XS. And the 12 is an all-new design altogether.

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IMO. the Note sells well because it is released towards the end of summer (fall) "bonus season" for us Asians.

S vs Note? gone are the days when the Note will have better specs, the last Note that was released with the newest version of Android was the Note 2 (it was released with Jelly Bean out of the box)

From S4 / Note3 the Note was just a bigger phone with Stylus and smaller battery

You need to change phones every 2 years to appreciate the "advancement," yearly upgrades are just too incremental... Except for the iPhone whose camera quality vastly improved from the older versions, masama naman talaga camera ng iPhone 10/10r/8!

If you follow the 2 year rule... You should be using a Note 9 now... The Note 20 will give you a better S-Pen, In-screen fingerprint sensor and 4K/60 video.

[Lakwatsero]

OnePlus’ midrange Nord announced with 90Hz display, dual selfie cameras, and 5G | The Verge

However tempting this looks, I try my best to stay away from Chinese brands now.

Sadly very limited na lang options, Samsung Apple Sony. LG pulled out na. Even then, these are mostly made in China.

Was looking forward to the S20/Note20 for my next unit pero we get the disappointing Exynos 990 na nag ooverheat pa when gaming. Unacceptable for a flagship.

[jut703]

IMO. the Note sells well because it is released towards the end of summer (fall) "bonus season" for us Asians.

S vs Note? gone are the days when the Note will have better specs, the last Note that was released with the newest version of Android was the Note 2 (it was released with Jelly Bean out of the box)

From S4 / Note3 the Note was just a bigger phone with Stylus and smaller battery

You need to change phones every 2 years to appreciate the "advancement," yearly upgrades are just too incremental... Except for the iPhone whose camera quality vastly improved from the older versions, masama naman talaga camera ng iPhone 10/10r/8!

If you follow the 2 year rule... You should be using a Note 9 now... The Note 20 will give you a better S-Pen, In-screen fingerprint sensor and 4K/60 video.

Have been upgrading every year, may benefits naman.

Note 4 to Note 5 - better camera, UI, aesthetics
Note 5 to S7 Edge - speed, camera, size
S7 to S8 - speed, aesthetics
S8 to Note 10 - speed, camera, aesthetics

Etong Note 10 to Note 20 di malaki camera upgrade, downgrade in aesthetics, CPU doesn't look like a big jump, tapos sobrang mas malaki pa (6.7" vs 6.3"). So no choice but to skip for now.



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[LancerA174A]

Samsung should really improve their exynos for their flagship or just use SD chips. Even if SD remain better , if exynos could come even at 98% performance and battery efficiency or even just equally good, that would be acceptable imho.

What's even weird is Samsung makes the flagship Snapdragon processors for Qualcomm but they can't take a page from them.. May lumabas pang rumor na napagalitan yata yung SOC division nila dahil sa worse performance ng Exynos..

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[StockEngine]

Have been upgrading every year, may benefits naman.

Note 4 to Note 5 - better camera, UI, aesthetics
Note 5 to S7 Edge - speed, camera, size
S7 to S8 - speed, aesthetics
S8 to Note 10 - speed, camera, aesthetics

Etong Note 10 to Note 20 di malaki camera upgrade, downgrade in aesthetics, CPU doesn't look like a big jump, tapos sobrang mas malaki pa (6.7" vs 6.3"). So no choice but to skip for now.



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man skipping this is an easy choice.

Samsux is like: hey Apple take a piece of my pie...

[misseksaherada]

Nag-upgrade sa Android 10 itong Oppo Reno2 na gamit ko kahapon.. Ang daming bugs, as in.. naiirita ako.. Like may widget ako ng world clock, dati ang ganda.. Ngayon ang panget ng itsura.. yung mute notifications di ko din gets.. bakit may tunog pa din.. nawala lang yung pop-up. natuwa lang ako sa dark mode.. tapos yung alarm sound naiba!! madami pa ako na encounter.. hirap isa-isahin.. gusto ko pa naman UI nya before upgrade..
Sana maayos nila..

[Ry_Tower]

Nag-upgrade sa Android 10 itong Oppo Reno2 na gamit ko kahapon.. Ang daming bugs, as in.. naiirita ako.. Like may widget ako ng world clock, dati ang ganda.. Ngayon ang panget ng itsura.. yung mute notifications di ko din gets.. bakit may tunog pa din.. nawala lang yung pop-up. natuwa lang ako sa dark mode.. tapos yung alarm sound naiba!! madami pa ako na encounter.. hirap isa-isahin.. gusto ko pa naman UI nya before upgrade..
Sana maayos nila..

Probably isn't beta tested extensively kaya ganyan. Minadali coz late in the game na sila.

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