What Will Be The Difference In Our Lives If We Dont Believe In God?

[c_cube]

I believe that we do not need to believe in GOD, i think we should just live our life without taking advantage and hurting other people.

Para sa akin, kung bawat tao lamang sa mundo hindi mang-aagrabyado ng ibang tao, hindi na natin kelangan ng religion o maniwala sa isang supreme being o sumama sa mga isang relihiyon.

IMO religion/supreme being was made to control people

BTW, im no antichrist/religion. im agnostic and do not care what people believe in.

[donbuggy]

Relax, see a movie: Monty Python's Life of Brian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Great movie. One of the all time funniest.

Set in biblical times but with space ships, suicide squads, full frontal nudity and a character named Biggus Dickus.

[hein]

I believe that the Church is, overall, a force for good in the world, I do not blindly follow whatever it says, and am not afraid to criticize its actions when I feel that they are wrong or misguided.

How could the catholic church be overall a force for good if it covers-up the thousands of *** Molester priests in the clergy? Even the pope was part of this Evil scheme, putting up Roadblocks and transferring out Child Rapists to other diocese.

Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys - NYTimes.com

This is the very reason why catholism has weakened to a point of Extinction in Europe and the US. The followers here are Disgusted with the abuses priests have done for decades, with tens of thousands of child victims.


Even the catholic Irish Prime Minister has shown open anger at the Vatican for the Child Molestations.

Umi001, this is something you can think about:

What if your own Child was molested by one of the priests, "pulling down his Pants and Touching him" as narrated in the article?

Would you still think that the church is a force for good?

[umi001]

How could the catholic church be overall a force for good if it covers-up the thousands of *** Molester priests in the clergy? Even the pope was part of this Evil scheme, putting up Roadblocks and transferring out Child Rapists to other diocese.

New York Times articles about the catholic *** Predators:

Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys - NYTimes.com

This is the very reason why catholism has weakened to a point of Extinction in Europe and the US. The followers here are Disgusted with the abuses priests have done for decades, with tens of thousands of child victims.


Even the catholic Irish Prime Minister has shown open anger at the Vatican for the Child Molestations.

Umi001, this is something you can think about:

What if your own Child was molested by one of the priests, "pulling down his Pants and Touching him" as narrated in the article?

Would you still think that the church is a force for good?

Are there priests, ministers, bishops, involved in these actions? Sure - I don't think anyone disputes that. Is the Vatican complicit in attempting to cover up, and trying to protect these perpetrators? Seems so - and I roundly condemn them for that - it is simply inexcusable. Nonetheless, just as a person is not defined by one act, so is an organization not defined by the actions of a few. There are priests, nuns, and even religious lay people, around the world, who help people, both materially and spiritually. I've known missionaries who've made helping people a life vocation, living rougher lives than I, than perhaps most of us, do - in service to other people. The Church itself earmarks a lot of money and manpower for charitable work. Great philosophers, thinkers, and yes, even scientists, have come out of the Church, progressing mankind's collective knowledge.

That's the problem I have with threads like this. It's alway about general statements becoming definitions of complex, multi-faceted institutions (or even ideas). I'd hate to be judged simply by the mistakes I've made, the not-so-salutary facts about me - as I'm sure most people would; as we Filipinos can sometimes be (nation of domestic helpers, anyone?); and as I'm sure the good, charitable people who work in the Church sometimes feel. Not all Catholics are the Bible-thumping, verse-spouting, evolution-denying parodies that you see in the media; not all priests are child-molesting, sodomizing, follow-me-to-save-yourself (AMEN!!!), hellfire-and-brimstone caricatures that you find in the movies and TV.

And again, getting back on topic, when is a belief in the Church a prerequisite to a belief in God? There is a difference between being spiritual, and being religious. Neither is a prerequisite for the other. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the most religious person in the world - I feel that the Catholic Church is too mired in the past, and needs to give its congregation more of a voice, particularly we youth; especially in today's world of rapid scientific advancement and ever widening communication. This doesn't mean that I can't recognize the good the Church can, indeed, does do; and it doesn't mean that I don't have my own belief and relationship with my God, forged by my own trials, tribulations, reasoning, understanding, and faith.

I've no intention of being a religious apologist, and I'm not here to force people to believe as I do. All I'm saying is that beliefs and choices should be made with consideration of both sides of the coin, with both bad and good considered. Generalizations are a crutch that can keep one from reasoning and understanding - and ultimately, it's the ability to reason and understand, not merely react, that separate us from mere beasts.

[Ry_Tower]

I do believe all religions has it flaws and wrongdoings because it is still run by men. Even economies and countries fail sometimes because they are run by imperfect beings.

BTT: I think the answer to the question has been clearly answered by Uls, that believers of a supreme being and non-believers will definitely have different view.

But the most important thing is not to force a belief/attitude upon someone especially here in a forum. [Because in the end, personal experiences differ from what we read, see or hear from others.] Kelangan ng SMB Light niya para sa mahaba-habang inuman at balitaktakan eh. hehe

[uls]

and ultimately, it's the ability to reason and understand, not merely react, that separate us from mere beasts.

and using pure reasoning it makes more sense to me everything (the universe) is random. there's no plan, there's no purpose, there's no goal. things just happen

stars are born and eventually die. there's no purpose

people are born and eventually die

the materials that make us get recycled

humans like to think humans are so special... a special creation

hey humans, stop flaterring yourselves

--

Earth from 6 billion kms away

"From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of any particular interest. But for us, it's different. Look again at that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
”
—Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space

[Ry_Tower]

At least on this earth man is special. He is the only one who has the ability to affect the lives of all other livings things around him. Yun nga lang the effect is sometimes good, sometimes bad.

[uls]

Jupiter Probe Snaps Family Photo of Earth & Moon Together | Views of Earth From Space | NASA Juno Jupiter Spacecraft | Space.com

Earth (on the left) and the moon (on the right) were seen by NASA's Juno spacecraft on Aug. 26, 2011, when the spacecraft was about 6 million miles (9.66 million kilometers) away. The photo was taken by the spacecraft's onboard camera, JunoCam.

Earth

home to a special creation called Man

everything was created for Man. the moon, the stars...

ya really...

[Monseratto]

"I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years. I'm not afraid of death, but I'm in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first. I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.

"What could define God [is a conception of divinity] as the embodiment of the laws of nature. However, this is not what most people would think of that God. They made a human-like being with whom one can have a personal relationship. When you look at the vast size of the universe and how insignificant an accidental human life is in it, that seems most impossible."

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to ... set the Universe going,"

Stephen Hawking says afterlife is a fairy story | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

[vinj]

At least on this earth man is special. He is the only one who has the ability to affect the lives of all other livings things around him. Yun nga lang the effect is sometimes good, sometimes bad.

Ahhh the view from the top... just like the idiot white Fortuner driver who swerved and almost hit me and my lowly B13 Sentra lane on the C5 Bagong Ilog Flyover last night.

The Pale Blue Dot perspective Uls showed above reminds me of the same theme Agent J keeps schooling Agent K in Men In Black.