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    #421
    Quote Originally Posted by samcoy View Post
    "Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name."

    Basically, the text in Gen 2: 19 just say that God who is the creator of the animals brought them to Adam. So there's no contradiction.

    Distorted Reality of Samcoy: Humans hanging with the Dinosaurs in the Creation Museum

    Saying that all Animals and Birds appeared at the same time goes against Science. So it is Full of BALONEY.

    Samcoy, your beliefs date back to the Bronze Age.

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    #422
    Quote Originally Posted by samcoy View Post
    Basically, the text in Gen 2: 19 just say that God who is the creator of the animals brought them to Adam. So there's no contradiction.
    What makes the Bible better than the Talmud, the Vedas, the Quran, the Book of Shadows or any other ‘religious’ text? They are all equally unsubstantiated and all their claims of divinity come from within the text itself. I can say that this post was written by God—and my evidence would be: “It says here right on this post”. That would be absurd but it is precisely what you are asking us to do. Claiming that a book is divine because that is what the book said. Only a fool would fall for such circular ‘evidence’.

    We should all be thankful that we’re past the age of nightmarish ignorance that religion has foisted upon us for thousands of years. It is saddening that there are some who would presumably want us to go back to those days so that religion may take back its position of prominence that it once enjoyed.

    Religion was our first and worst attempt at explaining natural phenomena. It has failed miserably then, it fails miserably now.

    “Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has: it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but--more frequently than not --struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.” – Martin Luther
    Mankind has progressed through the triumph and majesty of reason; let us not wish to be sent back in to the dark ages in which religion is most comfortably couched.

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    #423
    Quote Originally Posted by samcoy View Post
    Search their names on Google so you can get more details on what they say.
    I did. But the result displayed only the phrases you have posted. And I guess that you've just only googled "Scientist Backing Creation" to get thoses phrases. :D

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    #424
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    answer to first question -- the believer goes to heaven

    answer to second question -- the non-believer goes to hell
    LOL!

    Here's the other question... if the non-believer goes to "hell" ... who's version would it be? The Catholic's? The Muslim's? The Greek or Roman's? Dante's version? or the one from Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

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    #425
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    LOL!

    Here's the other question... if the non-believer goes to "hell" ... who's version would it be? The Catholic's? The Muslim's? The Greek or Roman's? Dante's version? or the one from Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
    May actual scientific proof of hell's existance? Or is it as real as the boogie man in the closet and the existance of the middle kingdom?

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    #426
    Quote Originally Posted by Quint View Post
    If things were so random, don't you think that there will be more asteroids hitting the earth? You ever wonder why they don't happen as often when the moon's surface is so littered with it?
    First reason: The Earth has a thick atmosphere which burns up smaller asteroids as they near Earth's surface.

    Second reason: Earth has weather and an active geology. This erodes some of the older and smaller craters. And since Earth is 3/4 covered by water, some have hit the ocean leaving no visible trace on the surface.

    Even so, we have a substantial list of large craters on the planet http://geology.com/meteor-impact-craters.shtml
    Last edited by ghosthunter; September 19th, 2011 at 10:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    May actual scientific proof of hell's existance? Or is it as real as the boogie man in the closet and the existance of the middle kingdom?
    We should ask QUINT about that, he seems so sure of the existence of both Heaven and Hell as if he's gone to both of them before. LOL!

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    #428
    Originally Posted by samcoy
    "Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name."
    good for you you're satisfied with that explanation

    nabibitin ako dyan eh

    i'm no longer a 5 yr old




    ^^

    A phylogenetic tree of life, showing the relationship between species whose genomes have been sequenced by humans. The very center represents the last universal ancestor of all life on earth. The different colors represent the three domains of life: pink represents eukaryota (animals, plants and fungi); blue represents bacteria; and green represents archaea. Note the presence of homo sapiens (humans) second from the rightmost edge of the pink segment. The light and dark bands along the edge correspond to clades: the rightmost light red band is en:Metazoa, with dark red en:Ascomycota to its left, and light blue en:Firmicutes to its right.[1]

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    #429
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    LOL!

    Here's the other question... if the non-believer goes to "hell" ... who's version would it be? The Catholic's? The Muslim's? The Greek or Roman's? Dante's version? or the one from Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
    and if reincarnation is real, when we die, we get re-born as new human beings, or plants, or animals

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    #430
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    and if reincarnation is real, when we die, we get re-born as new human beings, or plants, or animals
    Or just a simple protozoa in another planet in another galaxy far, far away...

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    #431
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Or just a simple protozoa in another planet in another galaxy far, far away...
    May God ba sa Star Wars?

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    #432
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    and if reincarnation is real, when we die, we get re-born as new human beings, or plants, or animals
    well this is how the actual (scientific) universe we know. nothing is created nor destroyed. when you die, you just turn into something else. the question you might want others to answer is what would happen to your consciousness when your physical body dies. our conscious and sub conscious selves is what we perceive as us as ourself our existence. our current physics still doesnt know how to transfer our consciousness in a computer, the amount of data is just too large for a mechanical data storage. but however, the technology exist and it might be possible in the next 100 years. read the book "the physics of the future" by michio kaku and you will be enlightened.

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    #433
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    May God ba sa Star Wars?
    you decide. read below.

    STAR WARS FILM DEPICTS NEW AGE MESSIAH
    by Thomas Horn

    An important part of New Age theology is the belief that God is animistic or pantheistic and that humans are divine members of the whole "that God is." Animism is the theory of the existence of a principle or Force inseparable from matter and to which all life and action are attributable. Pantheism is the doctrine that the Force totals the whole
    of the universe and is God. According to New Ageism, Jesus came to reveal this animistic or pantheistic nature of God and to teach humanity how to live in harmony with "the God of Forces," or as George Lucas coins, the Force. New Agers believe that Jesus was a divinely born master who ascended to a place of distinction to live among other
    Masters of the Spiritual Hierarchy - Buddha , Krishna, (Yoda?) etc. - after illustrating the principles of the Force.

    According to New Agers the "Force" is revealed during significant times in world history, and modern followers look for the imminent appearing of the next divinely born World Teacher who will, as Jesus did, illustrate the divine Force living within and around us. In this way, New Age theology prepares the world for the coming of the False Prophet and thus the Antichrist.

    This is the picture:

    * A group of divinely born and ascended masters are in tune with the Force.

    * Because of divine birth, the Force lives in the blood of each master.

    * Occasionally, a new master is born equally in tune with the Force.

    * The new master illustrates how others can live in harmony with the Force then takes his place among the ascended masters.

    * Another master will come along at the right time to help us feeble humans.

    Some note the unusual parallel between New Age theology and the Star Wars Jedi. In Lucas's new film, THE PHANTOM MENACE, Jedi Qui-Gon wipes a patch of blood from the youth Anakin's arm and makes an analysis of the blood. He's looking for midi-chlorians. What are midi-chlorians?

    ANAKIN : Master, sir...I've been wondering...what are midi-chlorians?
    QUI-GON : Midi - chlorians are microscopic life forms that reside within all living cells and communicates with the Force.
    ANAKIN : They live inside of me?
    QUI-GON : In your cells. We are symbionts with the midi - chlorians.
    ANAKIN : Symbionts?
    QUI-GON : Life forms living together for mutual advantage. Without the
    midi-chlorians, life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to you, telling you the will of the Force.
    ANAKIN : They do??
    QUI-GON : When you learn to quiet your mind, you will hear them speaking to you.
    ANAKIN : I don't understand.
    QUI-GON : With time and training, Annie...you will.

    [Earlier in the film Qui-Gon discovers the midi - chlorian count is off the
    charts with Anakin ]:

    OBI-WAN : Strange. The transmission seems to be in good order, but the reading's off the chart...over twenty thousand.
    OBI-WAN : Even Master Yoda doesn't have a midi-chlorian count that high!

    [Qui-Gon visits with Anakin 's mother, Shmi, and discovers that, not only is Anakin's midi-chlorian count unprecedented, but he was divinely conceived]:

    QUI-GON : You should be proud of your son. He gives without any thought of reward.
    SHMI : He knows nothing of greed. He has...
    QUI-GON : He has special powers.
    SHMI : Yes...
    QUI-GON : He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes. It is a Jedi trait.
    SHMI : He deserves better than a slave's life.
    QUI-GON : The Force is unusually strong with him, that much is clear. Who was his father?
    SHMI : There was no father, that I know of...I carried him, I gave him
    birth...I can't explain what happened.

    [Qui-Gon thinks he knows how Anakin was divinely conceived]:

    QUI-GON :... his cells have the highest concentration of midi-chlorians I
    have seen in a life form. It is possible he was conceived by the
    midi-chlorians.

    Parallels between the recent Star Wars film and New Age theology is strong. What does the Bible say about such things?

    * Anakin (anakim, sons of Anak) were supernaturally conceived of Satan or demons according to Biblical and extra-biblical histories.

    * As Jesus was the divinely conceived "seed of the woman," the Antichrist will be the "seed of the serpent," i.e. the son of Satan or demons.

    * The Antichrist will nevertheless present himself as an enlightened world teacher or savior.

    * The God of the Antichrist will be "the God of Forces" (Dan. 11:38), also
    known in antiquity as Baalhazor, the god of munitions and war and protector of fortresses.

    source.
    Star Wars Depicts New Age Messiah - anakin / anakim - god of forces The Force - anakin skywalker anakim nephilim connection - star wars

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    #434
    Quote Originally Posted by normanenoza View Post
    well this is how the actual (scientific) universe we know. nothing is created nor destroyed. when you die, you just turn into something else. the question you might want others to answer is what would happen to your consciousness when your physical body dies. our conscious and sub conscious selves is what we perceive as us as ourself our existence. our current physics still doesnt know how to transfer our consciousness in a computer, the amount of data is just too large for a mechanical data storage. but however, the technology exist and it might be possible in the next 100 years. read the book "the physics of the future" by michio kaku and you will be enlightened.
    Parang "Ghost in the Shell"...hehehe

    All living things are there because of energy or life force.

    The law of conservation of energy is a law of physics. It states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant over time (is said to be conserved over time). A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor be destroyed: it can be transformed from one form to another or transferred from one place to another.
    Even the simplest to the most complex life forms has this. So when you die, you don't know where and what form your life force may end up... but everything else goes six feet under.

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    #435
    Simmple question lang sa mga anti gods, alam ba nag mga GF niyo o misis niyo yung prinsipyo niyo? nanay niyo man lang or tatay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Simmple question lang sa mga anti gods, alam ba nag mga GF niyo o misis niyo yung prinsipyo niyo? nanay niyo man lang or tatay?
    simple answer. you're off topic. the answer to your question will not directly and literally answer the topic/thread question. and nobody here in this thread or forum is an atheist. they know how to put border between religion and science. they rely on both science and religion for their existence and sanity.

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    #437
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    May God ba sa Star Wars?
    He is one with the "Force" ... LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by normanenoza View Post
    well this is how the actual (scientific) universe we know. nothing is created nor destroyed. when you die, you just turn into something else. the question you might want others to answer is what would happen to your consciousness when your physical body dies. our conscious and sub conscious selves is what we perceive as us as ourself our existence. our current physics still doesnt know how to transfer our consciousness in a computer, the amount of data is just too large for a mechanical data storage. but however, the technology exist and it might be possible in the next 100 years. read the book "the physics of the future" by michio kaku and you will be enlightened.
    The reason why we cannot transfer people's memory to a physical computer is because the two systems are not compatible. Computers store memory as physical states of ones and zeros. We just love using the analogy of computers as how we compare our memory with a computers. But that is where the analogy fails. Humans store memory as a combination of connections in the brain.

    As for someone guessing the technology of 100 years from now, that's easy because the author and anyone who cared to read it wouldn't be around to say "Michio Kaku, the book you wrote 100 years ago was totally wrong and I want my refund!".

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    #439
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Simmple question lang sa mga anti gods, alam ba nag mga GF niyo o misis niyo yung prinsipyo niyo? nanay niyo man lang or tatay?
    Yes. Although it does concern them a bit from time to time, they know I am a good and moral person, often much better than many of those who are openly professing to be devout Catholic, etc. hence they don't make it an issue.

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    #440
    well the book covers the current technology at hand. he's book is about the maturity of these technologies we now have onhand. its also funny he mentioned in the book that people 100years ago predicted that we will still be riding horse carriages in the next 100 years. but look at we now. it also makes me wonder, what if ancient civilization did not disappear, where could we be now? what could we be now. these civilizations technology also vanished when then disappear. what would it be if egyptian, sumerian civilizations did not cease and just continued existence up to this day.

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