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    #111
    Let's say some rogue elements did that, point to me wherein the CCC that it is ok to invest in shady businesses?

    If you're not an atheist then replace it with the name of your sect or agnosticism perhaps if you are one.

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    #112
    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Yet the Vatican stone-walled the authorities, hid and transferred out the Child Rapists. Allowing many of the Molesters to victimize an entirely new set of children.

    Read this and Weep. Even pope Benedict (Ratzinger) was neck-deep in the *** Scandal Cover-up of thousands of Dirty priests.

    Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys - NYTimes.com
    Tsk Tsk. This is evil of the worst kind. Kawawa yung mga bata, Grabe

    Everyone should read this NY Times article, I almost teared in anger reading through it.

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    #113
    Going round and round in circles. Men do such acts because they forget about God. Men doing such acts don't represent the institution itself.

    Do you think this is only exclusive to Catholic clergy? How about the other sects and cults?

    ALL Protestant denominations - 838 Ministers

    147 Baptist Ministers

    251 "Bible" Church Ministers (fundamentalist/evangelical)

    140 Anglican/Episcopalian Ministers

    38 Lutheran Ministers

    46 Methodist Ministers

    19 Presbyterian Ministers

    197 various Church Ministers


    source: ***ual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers

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    #114
    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Champion of the Homeless? Daming lupa ang Philippine catholic church. They can can share some of their landholdings with the poor, but do they?
    Daming lupa ang Catholic church yes. Most of them donated. Your sect, ano na ginawa when it comes to people who are hungry? If I'm going to go to your line of thinking, did your sect donated its land to the poor? :D

    And they do share it to people. You don't even have to be catholic. Ever heard of Gawad Kalinga?



    Yet the Vatican stone-walled the authorities, hid and transferred out the Child Rapists. Allowing many of the Molesters to victimize an entirely new set of children.

    Read this and Weep. Even pope Benedict (Ratzinger) was neck-deep in the *** Scandal Cover-up of thousands of Dirty priests.

    Vatican Declined to Defrock U.S. Priest Who Abused Boys - NYTimes.com
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesi...itial_response

    See my comments above.

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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by hein View Post
    Tsk Tsk. This is evil of the worst kind. Kawawa yung mga bata, Grabe

    Everyone should read this NY Times article, I almost teared in anger reading through it.
    Kaya malakas ang Secular movement in Spain, France, Ireland and Italy. They realized the abuses of the church, specially of the ***ual kind. Their hard-earned money donated to the church is being used to pay off molestation victims.

    In Europe, few people listen to what the Vatican says anymore.

    Dito, mahirit pa rin mga obispo sa politics.

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    #116
    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post
    Kaya malakas ang Secular movement in Spain, France, Ireland and Italy. In Europe, not many people listen to what the Vatican says anymore.

    Dito nakiki-alam pa mga obispo sa politics.
    when people become better educated and better informed they tend to become less religious

    knowledge opens minds

    religions need closed-minded followers

    when minds are opened, religions lose followers

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    #117
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    when people become better educated and better informed they tend to become less religious

    knowledge opens minds

    religions need closed-minded followers

    when minds are opened, religions lose followers
    Yep. Kaya nga ang tawag kay jesus ay shepherd at ang mga believers ay sheeps. Kaya kahit saang damuhan sila dalhin wala sila reklamo basta sunod lang ng sunod. Iyon ang gusto ng simbahan.

    Isa pa, konti na lang as in konti na lang ang mga guys na nagpapari. A lot of people does not believe in the church nowadays.

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    What Will Be The Difference In Our Lives If We Dont Believe In God?

    It would probably be the same until I encounter the darkest hour of my life wherein only faith can keep me sane and the belief that there's a supreme being that can help me no matter what life throws at me can keep me from standing up and live life to the fullest.

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    Steven Weinberg - Wikiquote

    With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.

What Will Be The Difference In Our Lives If We Dont Believe In God?