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    #251
    Quote Originally Posted by samcoy View Post
    If you read the Bible, you'll know his characteristics and you'll realize how different he is from what the other people convey who he is through their actions. If their actions are evil does it show who really their god is?

    This is what the Bible said about those kind of people:

    YOU hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about YOU, when he said, ‘This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’ - Matthew 15:7-9

    I know that YOU are Abraham’s offspring; but YOU are seeking to kill me, because my word makes no progress among YOU. What things I have seen with my Father I speak; and YOU, therefore, do the things YOU have heard from [YOUR] father.” In answer they said to him: “Our father is Abraham.” Jesus said to them: “If YOU are Abraham’s children, do the works of Abraham. But now YOU are seeking to kill me, a man that has told YOU the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. YOU do the works of YOUR father.” They said to him: “We were not born from fornication; we have one Father, God.”

    Jesus said to them: “If God were YOUR Father, YOU would love me, for from God I came forth and am here. Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth. Why is it YOU do not know what I am speaking? Because YOU cannot listen to my word. YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie]. Because I, on the other hand, tell the truth, YOU do not believe me. Who of YOU convicts me of sin? If I speak truth, why is it YOU do not believe me? He that is from God listens to the sayings of God. This is why YOU do not listen, because YOU are not from God.” - John 8:37-42


    After you have read the above, I think I don't need to explain more. I know you understand what I mean.
    Tutal eh mahilig ka rin naman mag-quote sa world almanac mo aka bible eh paki-explain naman ito...

    No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.
    Deuteronomy 23:1

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    #252
    Quote Originally Posted by samcoy View Post
    There's no account of that in the Bible TRUE Christians doing that. What's the Bible text maybe I've missed?

    But this is what I've read in the Bible:

    “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness. - Matthew 7: 21-23

    Isn't the above clearly work of lawlessness?
    Pards, tigilan mo na ang kakabasa ng bible. Yun lang ba ang alam mo? Iisa lang ba ang subject niyo sa school nung nagaaral ka pa?

    Kung ayaw mo magbasa eh may youtube at history channel naman.

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    #253
    Woah! Guys cool lang kayo and peace. I'll try to answer your questions one by one. For now work muna ako ha. Bukas I'll try to answer. ;)

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    #254
    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post

    Christians on a Murderous campaign called the Crusades

    This kind of PRIMITIVE thinking that "my God is the True God" has brought Death and Suffering to Millions of people throughout history

    Samcoy, I think it is you who needs to study the bible more.
    And remember, the Holy Land and the Muslims were not the exclusive targets (i.e. victims) of the Crusades. There were crusades called out against Christians as well!

    Take the Crusade against Constantinople --- the Orthodox Christians. Christians (Catholics) calling a crusade against Christians (Ortodox)!

    How about the Crusade against the Cathars --- a group of Christians who got pissed off at the Church and decided to worship God directly. They were branded as Heretics by the Church and a crusade was called against them. In one particular siege, the Catholic leader was asked what to do with the occupants of the Cathar City, since the occupants were a mixture of Cathars and Catholics. The leader said, "Kill them all, God knows his own."

    Then there's the Children's Crusade.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by samcoy View Post
    Woah! Guys cool lang kayo and peace. I'll try to answer your questions one by one. For now work muna ako ha. Bukas I'll try to answer. ;)


    you're just gonna quote Bible verses

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    #256
    let's put things into proper perspective

    what you believe in, that which you consider to be truth, is just one of many myths

    Creation myths by region:

    African:
    Fon creation myth, Kaang creation story (Bushmen), Kintu myth (Bugandan), Mandé creation myth, Mbombo (Kuba, Bakuba or Bushongo/Boshongo), Ngai (Kamba, Kikuyu and Maasai), Unkulunkulu (Zulu), Yoruba creation

    American:
    Coatlicue (Aztec), Maya creation of the world myth, Popol Vuh (Quiché Mayan), Anishinaabeg creation stories, Cherokee creation myth, Choctaw creation, Creek creation, Hopi creation, Kuterastan (Plains Apache), Navajo creation story, Raven in Creation (Tlingit, Haida, and Tsimshian), Zuni creation myth, Legend of Trentren Vilu and Caicai Vilu (Chilean), Viracocha (Incan)

    Asian:
    Mongolian creation myth, Tungusic creation myth, Ainu creation myth (Japan), Chinese creation myth, Dangun creation myth (Korean), Izanagi (Japanese), Nüwa (Chinese), Pangu (Chinese), Samseonghyeol legend (Korean), Hiranyagarbha creation (India)

    European:
    Greek cosmogonical myth, Pelasgian creation myth (Greek), Väinämöinen (Finnish), Völuspá (Norse)

    Middle Eastern:
    Myth of cattle and grain, Ancient Egyptian creation myths, Enûma Eliš (Babylonian), Genesis creation narrative (Hebrew), Islamic creation belief (Arabic), Mashya and Mashyana (Persian), Sumerian creation myth

    Pacific Islander/Oceanic:
    Kumulipo (Hawaiian), Māori myths, Rangi and Papa (Māori), Sureq Galigo (Buginese)

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    #257

    Christians on a Murderous campaign called the Crusades

    Quote Originally Posted by samcoy View Post
    There's no account of that in the Bible TRUE Christians doing that. What's the Bible text maybe I've missed?

    Isn't the above clearly work of lawlessness?
    Eh TANGA mo kasi. The Crusades happened centuries after the Bible was written. How could it be there?

    Excuse me, but the Crusades was sanctioned by the pope.

    And yes, it was a lawlessness by the so-called TRUE Christians, which caused the MURDER of hundreds of thousands of people.

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    #258
    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Eh TANGA mo kasi. The Crusades happened centuries after the Bible was written. How could it be there?

    Excuse me, but the Crusades was sanctioned by the pope.

    And yes, it was a lawlessness by the so-called TRUE Christians, which caused the MURDER of hundreds of thousands of people.
    sir wag naman ganyan. pag-uumpisahan yan ng gulo e, I believe we are merely exchanging ideas here.

    I suggest you review this: What is Forum Etiquette?

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    #259
    marg/Monserato,

    Obviously you didn't get what I meant. And don't make assumptions that I don't know history. True Christians in the Bible who lived in the 1st century CE are non-violent people because they were taught by Jesus to love their neighbor as themselves and they were taught to not repay evil against evil. They are selfless people helping others to know Christ and His father. In fact, they are the ones being persecuted by the people just like how Jesus was persecuted. Some were stoned and some were burnt at the stake. So, professing Christians you and andywesteast are referring to are in fact false Christians because they're not leaving on the standard set forth by Jesus Christ. Worst, they're doing the opposite. People like them are responsible why many don't believe in God anymore. Sad but this is what really happening.

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    #260
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    quote ko lang sarili ko (from page 11)



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    very typical na sinasabi ng fundamentalist Christians

    pag wala sa Bible hindi totoo

    encyclopedia nila ang Bible

    everything in the universe is written in the Bible

    so pag wala sa Bible, questionable ang information

    kaya di nila ma-explain sa mga kids nila ang dinosaurs
    You're now stereotyphing which is not true to everybody professing Christian. Anyway I don't blame you for what you believe in right now because of wrong doings other professing worshiper of God do.

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