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    Quote Originally Posted by niwde11 View Post
    Marcos=centralized corruption
    after Marcos= decentralized corruption.
    This is how to best describe this country's goverment leaders.

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    Especially for those born after EDSA revolution... and falling for Marcoses' propaganda.



    raissa robles | Stopping the Marcoses from erasing their crimes from history

    Here is my speech for the forum sponsored by the University of the Philippines Third World Studies Center on My husband's lovers: Why Martial Law babies to the president generation love and hate Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos.
    Sino ulit nag sabi nito...

    In the absence of an extensive history covering the Marcos regime, the Marcos family was able to hawk the following myths to new voters:

    1.That Martial law was a “benevolent dictatorship”

    2.That there were no human rights abuses during the period. As Senator Bongbong Marcos said, the alleged victims are only after money.

    3.That the economy boomed under Marcos

    4.That Marcos was the greatest president since he built the most number of infrastructure, notably the Cultural Center, Folk Arts Theater, Film Center, Heart Center, Kidney Center, Lung Center and San Juanico Bridge. You can see this particular claim all over the social networking sites Facebook and Youtube.
    For Marcos lovers like Irene Vinluan, such displays of corrupt practices apparently does not matter. She wrote on the Facebook page of Marcos’ daughter, Imee:

    “I love the Marcoses! During the time of his Presidency, despite of his corruption, at the same time, he also did good for the country, the streets was cleaner, not much street crimes, the Philippines was one of the richest in Asia.”

    Let’s replace the word “Marcos” with Hitler; and use Germany instead of the Philippines, and see how that reads:

    “I love Hitler! During the time of his Chancellorship, despite of his corruption, at the same time, he also did good for the country, the streets was cleaner, not much street crimes, Germany was one of the richest in Europe.”

    Unfair?

    Not at all. Marcos himself disclosed that one of the things he studied in preparation for declaring Martial Law was how Hitler took control of Germany.
    Marcos lovers throw at critics is – Forgive your enemies.

    A person who does not forgive his enemies is often labeled vindictive. And if he’s a politician, he’s called politically vindictive.

    I remember that during the presidency of Corazon Aquino, the board of censors chief Manoling Morato said the public should stop demonizing Marcos in the spirit of reconciliation.

    We are now reaping the consequences of that advice. Marcos’ children and his wife to this day insist their father did no wrong; there were no human rights abuses; and he is the country’s greatest president.
    Understandably, the dictator’s children are trying to reinstate their father politically.
    But they are doing it with our tax money.

    For instance, many key activities of Governor Imee Marcos for Ilocos Norte is intended to praise her father Ferdinand Marcos. Last year, she held the:

    “President Marcos cup” for practical shooting;
    A rock concert called “DaReal Makoy Concert 2”;
    A “Marcos fiesta 2013 Flash Mob Full” which details the life of Marcos in dance; and
    “The First Ferdinand Marcos Sirib Intercollegiate debates 2013.”
    September 11, Marcos’ birthday, was dubbed “Marcos Day”.

    Imee Marcos held a “Little Macoy and Imelda sing-alike”, a “Marcos quiz”, a “Marcos heritage trail free tour.”

    In 2012, the family published a book on the arts and culture of the Marcos era.
    And of course there is the year-round exhibit of Marcos’ waxed figure as well as a museum of remembrance.

    All these are intended to project the Marcos version of history. Before Facebook and Twitter came about, such goings-on would have been confined in Ilocos. But not anymore.

    The Marcoses are now using Facebook and YouTube to project their father as the greatest president this country ever had.
    The Marcoses destroyed our country and now they are covering up for their crimes.
    Last edited by Monseratto; February 9th, 2014 at 10:38 PM.

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    If there is anything Marcos has achieved in his 20 yrs reign, he has built dams to address power & irrigation needs that no one in 28yrs none of his predecessor has ever thought of.

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    To the many guilable Marcos lovers out there...

    5 Pernicious Marcos Myths
    Thu, 02/25/2010 - 00:00

    By Alan C. Robles

    MYTH 1. UNDER MARCOS THE COUNTRY WAS PROSPEROUS

    A few people were prosperous. People like Herminio Disini, Danding Cojuangco, Imelda Marcos. Ferdinand Marcos, junior -- Bongbong -- got his own island, Calauit -- as a hunting preserve. He demanded, and was handed, millions of pesos from a private company, Philcomsat. "What could we do," a company officer said later, "he was the president's son." Imelda turned the Philippine National Bank into her private piggy bank and Philippine Airlines into her personal air service. She bought condos in New York, ordered posh department stores to close their doors so she could shop inside in peace, handed out hundred dollar tips to Americans. Where'd all this money come from?

    Marcos ruled unchecked for almost 14 years, free to write his own laws as he went along (after he was overthrown, investigators discovered dozens of secret decrees he'd kept handy for all possible contingencies). With those awesome powers, what progress did he bring to the country? In 1974, the poverty rate was 24%. By 1980 it was 40%. When Marcos assumed the presidency, the country's foreign debt was US$1 billion. By the time he fled, it was US$28 billion. Where'd all the money go? Investigators later estimated the Marcoses stole at least US$10 billion, most of it salted away abroad. Martial Law sustained a plunder economy run for the benefit of the Marcos family, its relatives and associates. Everyone else was just an afterthought.

    MYTH 2. UNDER MARCOS THE COUNTRY WAS PEACEFUL

    During Martial Law, not only did the Communist New People's Army increase in strength, from a few hundred to more than 20,000 soldiers, but crime in Manila became so bad that at one point Marcos actually ordered the deployment of "secret marshals." These were armed plainclothes military agents who pretended to be passengers in jeeps and buses, with orders to shoot and kill anybody they thought were criminals.

    The worst threat to peace and order was none other than Marcos himself. Historian Alfred McCoy estimates the Martial Law regime killed more than 3,000 Filipinos and made hundreds disappear. Dinampot (picked up) entered the venacular to describe what happened to Marcos critics, who were usually labeled "subversives" or "dissidents." Another word coined under the dictatorship, "salvage" -- murder committed by the authorities -- acquired international notoriety. If there was "peace" in the country it was the graveyard silence produced by fear and repression.

    MYTH 3. MARCOS BUILT MANY ROADS, SCHOOLHOUSES, DAMS, ETC

    True. He could build and build because it wasn't his money that was being used, it was the taxpayers'. And of course, Marcos made sure he got a cut. The biggest, most famous construction project, the billion-dollar Bataan Nuclear Power Plant, was an overpriced, graft-ridden structure which paid Marcos millions of dollars in kickbacks. His crony Herminio Disini got such a large commission he could afford to flee to Austria, buy a castle and settle down. The country took years to pay off the BNPP. It still hasn't been used. Imelda also had an "edifice complex." She was in such a hurry to have the Film Palace in Roxas Boulevard finished, part of it collapsed, reportedly burying workers alive.

    Imelda's idea of infrastructure for the poor was a high whitewashed concrete wall around Manila's squatter areas, the better to hide the poverty and misery, and so avoid depressing passing motorists and tourists.

    MYTH 4. IN 1986 MARCOS COULD HAVE ORDERED HIS TROOPS TO RUN OVER THE CITIZENS ON EDSA BUT REFUSED TO DO SO, EVEN IF IT MEANT HE WOULD LOSE

    Actually he was urging his generals to attack, but in front of the TV cameras made a big show of concern over civilian casualties. Reporter Sandra Burton, who was there, wrote: "Viewers had just witnessed another bit of play-acting, or moro-moro, between Marcos and (General Fabian) Ver, which seemed intended to impress upon his official US audience the president's concern for preventing bloodshed, even as the Americans' sensitive communications devices were intercepting his generals' orders to fire on rebel headquarters."

    The truth was the dictator's generals were reluctant to attack. According to Beth Day Romulo, one general later said his huge amphibious assault vehicles could have "rammed through the crowds." However, "I didn't want to be known as the Butcher of Ortigas Avenue."

    Marcos kept up the pretense. Burton wrote how: " Hyperventiliating again, Ver grew more and more excited. 'Just give me the order, sir and we will hit them.' Marcos, looking reasonable, compared to his bellicose chief of staff, refused. Yet even as he spoke, his generals were ordering Colonel Balbas to stop making excuses and fire the mortars he had positioned early that morning on the golf course inside Camp Aguinaldo." Marcos never let a few broken, maimed bodies stand in his way. He wasn't about to stop.

    MYTH 5. MARCOS MEANT WELL, BUT IMELDA AND THE CRONIES RUINED EVERYTHING

    He refused to share power. He kept a closet full of secret decrees. His word was law. The judiciary, legislative and military were his puppets. If Ferdinand Marcos could claim credit for all the nice buildings constructed during his regime, he should also take responsibility for everything else.

    The truth was, Marcos was evil from the get-go. As a young man, he assassinated his father's political opponent -- through a coward's way, sniping from long range in the dark of night. He fabricated a record as an alleged guerrilla leader during World War II. He opened a secret Swiss bank account -- under the pseudonym "William Saunders" -- with Credit Suisse in 1968, years before he declared Martial Law.

    Marcos was all of a piece. He intended to run the country purely for the benefit of his family and friends, and to set up a dynasty that would continue the plunder. He was prepared to do anything to hang on.

    During the snap election campaign in 1985, he sneered that his opponent, Cory Aquino, was a mere housewife with no experience. Cory fired back with a statement that summed up the dictator: “I concede that I cannot match Mr. Marcos when it comes to experience. I admit that I have no experience in cheating, stealing, lying, or assassinating political opponents.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    If there is anything Marcos has achieved in his 20 yrs reign, he has built dams to address power & irrigation needs that no one in 28yrs none of his predecessor has ever thought of.
    I really don't like Macoy, but I have no choice but to agree to this post.

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    Kelan kaya matatapos ang usaping Marcos?

    Ilan na ang dumaang presidente. Si Erap convicted, bakit hindi pinag-uusapan? Si Pandak, isang bulate na lang ang pipirma. Si Cory, sya nag restore ng democracy kuno, bakit ayaw nyong pag-usapan?

    Si Makoy, convicted ba? Dalawang Aquino na ang presidente, isama nyo na si Kris.

    Sino ngayon ang pinakamagaling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    If there is anything Marcos has achieved in his 20 yrs reign, he has built dams to address power & irrigation needs that no one in 28yrs none of his predecessor has ever thought of.
    Agree. Buhay na buhay ang taniman noong araw.
    Nung wala na si Marcos, tinaniman ng mga squatters yung daanan ng irrigation.

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    No facts can sway these Marcos lovers.

    Our well educated members here is a proof of that, then they blame the Government after Marcos for all the short-coming. Baliw?

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    Sa mga marcos lovers na nanaginip...

    US$ rate was 3.90 = $1 in Dec 1965 and 20=$1 in Feb 1986 making the total depreciation 512% in 20 years. From 1986 to today, 28 years (~44=$1) the peso has only depreciated 225%. He did more in 20 years than 5 presidents did in 28.


    For every project Marcos produced, how much in kickbacks went into his Swiss Bank Accounts?
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 25th, 2014 at 11:48 AM.

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    ^ Sir, 2014-1986 = 28 years

    Bakit 45:1 pa rin?

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