Things you need to know before idolizing marcos

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It's hard to argue with close minded people. It's what they saw nung Marcos era and blinded by the means to get there.

"ok lang corrupt, basta may ginawang maganda"

[ZENMasterTYL]

It's hard to argue with close minded people. It's what they saw nung Marcos era and blinded by the means to get there.

"ok lang corrupt, basta may ginawang maganda"

+1 to this. naka program na sa utak ng karamihan ng mga pilipino ang ganito. kaya wala talagang asenso ang pilipinas dahil sobrang baba ng standard natin. okay lang magnakaw basta may nagawang dams at highways

when marcos started to institutionalise corruption, that's where our problems started.

[Tj_abs]

+1 to this. naka program na sa utak ng karamihan ng mga pilipino ang ganito. kaya wala talagang asenso ang pilipinas dahil sobrang baba ng standard natin. okay lang magnakaw basta may nagawang dams at highways

when marcos started to institutionalise corruption, that's where our problems started.

+2 problem is yung highway at dams na ginawa ay my "tongpats" at "kickback" ang mga pulitiko. Worse, substandard pa ito. To aggravate the situation, yung contractor pa is kamag anak pa ng pulitiko.. Wala na talaga pag asa...


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[glenn_duke]

Sub-standard pala yung mga dams na sinasabi ng mga govt experts na due for replacement na dahil they already passed their design service life. At sub-standard din pala yung mga tulay na giniba nalang dahil they outlived their designed.

As if nung martial law naimbento na madaling pagka kitaan ng mga LGU ang taunang pagsira at pag-semento ng daan.
As if hindi isa ang mga Oreta-Aquino sa biggest baggers of government contracts ng road construction after martial law.
As if... .... (too many to mention, too little popcorn)

[vinj]

Hindi naman nila ginusto maging bobo. It's the fault of the influential and powerful who ensured that the systems are in place to keep then uneducated.

How do you expect to have a smarter generation to come when our basic education is so woefully inadequate?


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Unfortunately, a lot of those who ensure the bobo system continues, and their offspring whom they groom to continue their kagaguhan, aren't exactly bright bulbs either.

I always believed a fundamentally sound educational system is a big must for us to move forward for good.

[cardict]

Unfortunately, a lot of those who ensure the bobo system continues, and their offspring whom they groom to continue their kagaguhan, aren't exactly bright bulbs either.

I always believed a fundamentally sound educational system is a big must for us to move forward for good.

And there lies the problem,political dynasty,most politicians say they want the very best for this peolple,sad to say good for print and broadcast media only but lacking in actions

[TopEngine]

Lahat naman ng mga yan nagkaroon ng corruption... pero sino sa kanila nagkaroon ng maraming projects? Sino ang meron mga ginawang batas na hanggang ngayon batas pa rin na napapakinabangan ng Pilipinas? Sino talaga ang meron malasakit sa bayan, mga Oligarchs ba? Kung talagang mas matinding corrupt si Marcos kesa sa ngayon, bakit marami siyang naipatayong infrastructures, at mas pro-farmer agrarian reforms.

Oo nangutang nga siya sa panahon niya, natural yan kasi bini-buildup pa ang Pilipinas [from 3rd World country] nasa investment stage pa lang. Kasalanan ni Cory yan, kung itinuloy niya sana o hinayaan lang niya gamitin ng Pilipino mga projects na yan, for sure from 1986 up to now, bumalik na ang Return of Investment [ROI] ng mga yan, kumita pa. Pinagkaisahan ng mga dilawan, media, oligarchs at pati komunista si Marcos. Ginamit ang black propaganda na ipinapatay daw ni Marcos si Ninoy, mga 2% population ng Pilipinas naging emosyonal naman, pumunta sa EDSA, kumusta buhay kaya ng mga taong yun ngayon? gumanda kaya?

Nagwagi sila [dilawan]... kaya ngayon dumami mga corrupt, lumaki ang corruption, mas lumiit na ang bilang ng mga projekto [solusyong tagpi-tagpi pa], at nag-piyesta na ang mga oligarchs.

[dr. d]

in my opinion, cory's failure was in failing to moderate population growth.
she didn't even try..
you can say anything, but in my view, many of our problems today stem from our huge population.
my 90 centavos' worth.

[Monseratto]

Why do Marcos lovers always point out the number of infrastructure projects. Have they ever thought how many years he was dictator? And how much control he had over everything, no questions asked?

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Yep that's how they see it.

It's what they saw and turn a blind eye on everything else.

[confused shoes]

Much as the Ferdinand E. Marcos haters turning blind eyes to what are happening after 1986 where in fact, they are already the living witnesses.

Ayan si tanda, si ***y, at si pogi. Si Pandak arrested, si Erap pardoned. Tsk..tsk. Nasampaham ba ng kaso si Apo?

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Ummm maybe look at the economic evidences AFTER his regime. Or concentrated pa rin sa infrastructure?

[TopEngine]

I just can't rationalize people giving more importance to plain Talker than a Man of actions and accomplishments, tsk. There are still people who are blinded/brainwashed by yellow media, and what their idol just had to do were to change names of projects and programs of the true achiever, or even acquired [for their cronies, family] those supposed projects for Filipinos. These people are happy being ran now by Oligarch, lol.

https://www.facebook.com/PhilippinesShockingHistory

from the link above it says;

Cory Aquino, Ramos, Estrada, Gloria Macapagal, Ninoy Aquino III in 26 years-----
1) ZERO - every new power plant built During their time were all privately Owned ( mostly by Lopezes, AboitIz, Aquino And Cojuanco Family) and is now owners of some Power Plants completed during Marcos.

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And people blinded by infrastructure. Di bale bumagsak economy basta may infrastructure.

I rest my case.

[A121]

And people blinded by infrastructure. Di bale bumagsak economy basta may infrastructure.

I rest my case.

and these people always forget that the money behind that infrastructure is debt. by the 1980s, we were so deep in debt, we failed to pay them. no one would want to lend us money to kickstart the economy.

[TopEngine]

Freedom? Democracy?

I just saw this article, kaka-post lang ng Rappler, mainit-init pa. Please find time to read. Anyway, mabuti 'to nang magkapalitan tayo ng kuro-kuro.

Too much freedom

quoted from the article
"Then came the dreaded unsolicited advice: “ I think Filipinos have too many freedom. In Singapore, if people want 10 things, the government just give six. Only what’s good for us. Filipinos want 10 things from government and not happy if they don’t they get all. Too many freedom not too good.”

Some erudite political/socio-economic analysts share the taxi driver’s insight. They favor a more commanding and authoritative leadership style, like that of Singapore’s Lee Kuan Yew and Malaysia’s Mahathir Mohammad."

[ClaNker]

Yung mga squa-squa na wala pinag aralan ay maiintindihan ko kung bakit ang dali nilang mauto.

Infrastructure daw... Abay magkano ba ang perang nag laro dyan.

Authoritative leadership style daw... Abay ano ba ang ginawa ni macoy nung panahon nya.

[Monseratto]

If you are wondering where the Philippines is...understand the country was suffering from negative growth.

[ClaNker]

and these people always forget that the money behind that infrastructure is debt. by the 1980s, we were so deep in debt, we failed to pay them. no one would want to lend us money to kickstart the economy.

Ah basta may infrastructure! Masyado akong boboo para sa pag account ng perang inutang na nalustay. Ang importante may infrastructure.

Bow.

[ClaNker]

Galing sa article ni TopEngine:

"But for democracy to work better, the voting public must be knowledgeable. They must find out about issues and determine which candidate offers the best course of action."

Action sa kanila is infrastructure, yung nakikita nila. Di bale na yung mga economic evidences, di bale na negative numbers, di bale na bankrupt central bank... Basta may naitayo = may nagawa.

Key word: "knowledgeable"

Yung mga di nakapag aral eh wala nga nyan at kung isa kang FBI na pinanganak at tumanda na sa Ilocos ay exempted ka din dyan.

Ano na lang yung iba?