Philippine Economy Talk

[dr. d]

kung ano ang ugali ng tao ganyan din ang gobyerno

tao is gobyerno.
gobyerno is tao.

[uls]

dalawang lang naman ang reaction ng mga bansa noong nabalitaan may virus kumakalat sa China

1 - "oh sh#t we gotta get ready for that! it's gonna reach us in no time" (Taiwan, Vietnam, SK)

2 - "that's not gonna happen here" and "it's just the flu" (rest of the world)

[uls]

tao is gobyerno.
gobyerno is tao.

ugali ng tao ugali ng gobyerno

kaya huwag mag expect ng Taiwan-like or SK-like response to the virus

hindi characteristic ng pinoy ang pagiging proactive

[shadow]

dalawang lang naman ang reaction ng mga bansa noong nabalitaan may virus kumakalat sa China

1 - "oh sh#t we gotta get ready for that! it's gonna reach us in no time" (Taiwan, Vietnam, SK)

2 - "that's not gonna happen here" and "it's just the flu" (rest of the world)

"Sampalin ko lang yan veerus", "we have the money, I assure you"

[emoji23]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[uls]

when the virus entered SK, they already had around 100 PCR labs and locally manufactured test kits

we entered the lockdown in March with 2000 test kits from WHO and 1 freaking lab

[Ry_Tower]

Imho another thing that is sorely lacking now that should have been there from the start is a CLEAR AND SUSTAINED INFORMATION DRIVE on how to go about what should be the new normal. Blast that protocol every hour on all channels so it gets drilled down to the stubbornest of brains until following it becomes second nature.

From what I see every time I go outside, a lot of people are still not wearing masks, removing them in public, wearing them with their noses out, touching their faces and social distancing is a token <1 meter.

If we can't expect satisfactory contact tracing and mass testing, can we at least expect that from this government?

Aside from that, tougher implementation sana ng wearing of facemasks. Sobrang dami na hindi nagsusuot at karamihan sa squatter, palengke at mataong lugar pa. Ano aasahan mo kapag ganyan ka-lax ang policing ng government.

Sent from my SM-N960F/DS using Tapatalk

[jut703]

i'd describe it as typical pinoy way of doing things

always reactive never proactive

pag nandito na ang problema tsaka hanapan ng solusyon

kung ano ang ugali ng tao ganyan din ang gobyerno

I used to not understand why the rich like to operate only within a certain bubble - only going around in Rockwell, High Street etc, living in certain neighborhoods, etc etc.

But really it's because you can't expect a certain level of decency, competence, discipline and governance from the entire country, so they create smaller bubbles on their own where they can enjoy a semblance of first-world life.

So while the pandemic hits everyone, those belonging to neighborhoods and organizations with proper systems in place are better prepared to react.

Unfortunately for the vast majority of Filipinos, they don't have that option so they have to live with the way the government treats them (aka dispensable).

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

[jut703]

What if hindi nag ECQ/GCQ lockdown?
Is the situation going to be better or worst?

From an infection and hospital capacity measure, it'll be worse, but it's not as if the current situation is better. From an economic perspective, impact would have been less than now.

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

[shadow]

So dapat nag herd immunity na lang tayo from the get go? keep the vulnerables isolated/lockdown while let the able bodies go and do their usual things.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[uls]

from the corona thread:

You are being redirected...

and yet another layoff from Cebu Pacific groundhandling services.....

Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk

Diyan ako mas natatakot sa mass layoff.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

coz pag madami wala trabaho mas dadami kriminal?

aside from that

ang economy natin domestic consumption driven

pag madami mawalan ng trabaho we'll have less consumer spending

so when there's less demand, manufacturers will produce less, importers will import less

everybody makes less money

[jut703]

So dapat nag herd immunity na lang tayo from the get go? keep the vulnerables isolated/lockdown while let the able bodies go and do their usual things.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Dapat may malinaw na plano from the getgo.

Kung magheherd immunity tayo kasi wala naman tayo capablity for mass testing and contact tracing, dapat di na naglockdown to minimize economic losses.

Kung maglolockdown tayo dapat maaga, absolute, and may isolation via contact tracing at the minimum - aka Vietnam execution.

Eh yung nangyari worst of both worlds. High economic losses tapos high number of cases pa rin [emoji28]

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

[Dr. Strange]

Dapat may malinaw na plano from the getgo.

Kung magheherd immunity tayo kasi wala naman tayo capablity for mass testing and contact tracing, dapat di na naglockdown to minimize economic losses.

Kung maglolockdown tayo dapat maaga, absolute, and may isolation via contact tracing at the minimum - aka Vietnam execution.

Eh yung nangyari worst of both worlds. High economic losses tapos high number of cases pa rin [emoji28]

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

Add mo pa kahit me krisis corruption still rampant.

[shadow]

Kahit meron corruptions. Kung competent pa rin yun mga nagpapatakbo, we'll still be in better shape.

Bobo na nga corrupt pa.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[uls]

Dapat may malinaw na plano from the getgo.

Kung magheherd immunity tayo kasi wala naman tayo capablity for mass testing and contact tracing, dapat di na naglockdown to minimize economic losses.

Kung maglolockdown tayo dapat maaga, absolute, and may isolation via contact tracing at the minimum - aka Vietnam execution.

Eh yung nangyari worst of both worlds. High economic losses tapos high number of cases pa rin [emoji28]

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

be careful what you wish

[jut703]

Ang nakakatawa eh marami pa rin supporters yung admin na to kahit sobrang f'd up ng COVID response and tinatamaan na sila directly.

So minsan ang hirap maawa sa mga tinamaan - eh ginusto nila yan eh.

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

[uls]

so meron maglalabas daw ng pera sa isang bangko ililipat sa ibang bangko

what makes them so sure ung lilipatan nilang bangko walang problema

all the banks are exposed to bad loans

just pray Bangko Sentral have their back

[_Cathy_]

Ang nakakatawa eh marami pa rin supporters yung admin na to kahit sobrang f'd up ng COVID response and tinatamaan na sila directly.

So minsan ang hirap maawa sa mga tinamaan - eh ginusto nila yan eh.

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

Crush was able to speak with several people who lost their jobs and they still support the admin, ang common na sagot "ganyan talaga ang buhay" Hindi ko alam kung maiinis ako o mabibilib ako sa dutertards.

This is what I saw when I opened my email "Kindly note that the retirement fund has been impacted by the market downturn due to the COVID-19 pandemic"

[greenlyt]

so meron maglalabas daw ng pera sa isang bangko ililipat sa ibang bangko

what makes them so sure ung lilipatan nilang bangko walang problema

all the banks are exposed to bad loans

just pray Bangko Sentral have their back

meron term/category sa bank na Too Big to Fail, banks like BPI and BDO, BSP will do everything it can to prevent closure of said banks, LandBank din nga pala since depository bank ng phil government

[shadow]

Ang nakakatawa eh marami pa rin supporters yung admin na to kahit sobrang f'd up ng COVID response and tinatamaan na sila directly.

So minsan ang hirap maawa sa mga tinamaan - eh ginusto nila yan eh.

Sent from my SM-N970F using Tapatalk

Kaya nga ako matagal ko post dito, pag affected ngayon tapos nagreklamo kung binoto nila si duterte wala ng awa-awa. Mabuti nga sa kanila.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Little Missy]

So dapat nag herd immunity na lang tayo from the get go? keep the vulnerables isolated/lockdown while let the able bodies go and do their usual things.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Herd immunity is sasadyain macontract yung sakit assuming malakas naman at makakasurvive para immune na sila at hindi mahawaan yung mga vulnerables. Won't work in the PH setting imo dahil hindi naman tayo tulad ng UK or US that the young move out of their homes, we live with our elderly may extended family pa. Hindi rin uso dito ang home for the aged. Also, this won't be achieved without many deaths dahil hindi naman guaranteed na bata at healthy, magsusurvive. Will likely collapse healthcare system too. Pag tumagal ito ng walang vaccine, I think we will eventually get to herd immunity. But by then marami na din namatay.

I think the lockdown helped keep the situation under control nung una, problema lang kasi tumagal tapos walang bagong ginawa, lockdown lang.

Sent from my HUAWEI VNS-L31 using Tapatalk