Impeachment against CJ Corona..

[umi001]

Seriously if you were a caliber lawyer who would you offer your free services to? Alam mo naman ang turo sa law school regarding SC.

Kaya ng puro kulelat ang mga nasa prosecution.

True, but I think the private prosecutors are being paid, and were hired by the House of Representatives - you wonder why they didn't get lawyers who have some trial experience (because they are all getting owned so hard by Cuevas, Defensor-Santiago and Enrile). The only reason they aren't any worse if is because of the help of chief-senator-judge-prosecutor Drilon, along with the other senator-judge-prosecutors (Osmena, Guingona, Pangilinan, Alan Cayetano, etc).

[CoDer]

True, but I think the private prosecutors are being paid, and were hired by the House of Representatives - you wonder why they didn't get lawyers who have some trial experience (because they are all getting owned so hard by Cuevas, Defensor-Santiago and Enrile). The only reason they aren't any worse if is because of the help of chief-senator-judge-prosecutor Drilon, along with the other senator-judge-prosecutors (Osmena, Guingona, Pangilinan, Alan Cayetano, etc).

Cheap wa budget ang gobyerno. Mas mahal mga abogado ni Corona.

[wowiesy]

naku hindi po ako lawyer. yung issue regarding admisability eh hindi po pasok yan, dahil the annex will never marked as evidence.

yung parating sinasabi ng defense na fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine eh di rin pasok yan dahil hindi naman criminal case to at hindi i offer as evidence ng prosecution yung annex. now the issue on whether the annex are fake or not is best answered by another forum.

So kung hindi nai present bakit binasa pa? Papaano naging relevant? Sayang oras ng lahat Dapat baguhin uli impeachment rules maging malinaw sa ganito. Laking sayang sa oras... Pati media laking saysng ng air time...

[wowiesy]

So either you have the data beforehand, which is against bank secrecy laws, or you ask permission to open it, which Enrile won't allow?

Which is it, Honorable Senator?

Dyan ata papasok yung galing o husay sa pag craft or wording ng impeachment complaint... The way it is stated, parang nag expose lang ala senate or house blue ribbon committee hearing...since nasanay mga senador at kongresista natin na court of public opinion lang ang laging laban nila...

Kung pinag isipan ng husto yung articles, their work during the impeachment trial proper is a lot easier...

[Monseratto]

Enrile: "“This is the trouble of your Articles of Impeachment, you are not very careful in your allegations and you want to expand it at the course of the trial. I have warned you several times. You know there is a limit to the patience of this court,”

All the documents from PAL are good as trash. Walang tumulong senate-judges ngayon sa prosecution... Alam ni Drillon et al na naiinis na si JPE. Yung evidence galing sa BPI gusto akuin ng prosekusyon, eh galing sa subpoena ng senator-judges.

Susunod na alas si DOJ sec. De Lima. I bet Brenda is gonna go balisitic again with the witness.

[Retz]

langhya, supalpal ang prosecution today. ang bilis natapos ng article 3. sa article7 na ba tayo bukas?

[Retz]

isa pang pretty lady sa impeachment trial. d who?

[niwde11]

So either you have the data beforehand, which is against bank secrecy laws, or you ask permission to open it, which Enrile won't allow?

Which is it, Honorable Senator?

niky, try to watch the replay nung show ni tina monzon palma (Talkback yata title) last monday evening. you may forget about one guest (son of Maceda yata) and maybe the other one if you are pro pnoy(libarios). but i think maganda yung sinabi ni ex sandiganbayan Palatao(who happens to be the one who issued a warrant of arrest kay erap at si erap din ang nag upo). parang sinabi nya na yung ganung info ay dapat wag ginagawang primary evidence. yun dapat ay mga tips on how you will gather evidence and plan how will you show evidence na pagdating sa dulo e lalabas yun. in other words dapat talaga strategy at hindi bara bara lang.

[CoDer]

niky, try to watch the replay nung show ni tina monzon palma (Talkback yata title) last monday evening. you may forget about one guest (son of Maceda yata) and maybe the other one if you are pro pnoy(libarios). but i think maganda yung sinabi ni ex sandiganbayan Palatao(who happens to be the one who issued a warrant of arrest kay erap at si erap din ang nag upo). parang sinabi nya na yung ganung info ay dapat wag ginagawang primary evidence. yun dapat ay mga tips on how you will gather evidence and plan how will you show evidence na pagdating sa dulo e lalabas yun. in other words dapat talaga strategy at hindi bara bara lang.

Excerpt ng section 2 ng Law on Secrecy of Bank Deposit.

are hereby considered as of an absolutely confidential nature and may not be examined, inquired or looked into by any person, government official, bureau or office, except upon written permission of the depositor, or in cases of impeachment, or upon order of a competent court in cases of bribery or dereliction of duty of public officials, or in cases where the money deposited or invested is the subject matter of the litigation.

Kahit account number lang yung alam mo at nakuha mo dahil nagtanong ka sa banko kung ano yung account number ni so and so eh illegal pa rin yan. Kung ako ang defense papa squash ko yan, mas madaling daan sa technicalities yan kesa explain mo kung bakit wala sa SALN ni Corona yan.

Kaya nga panay media ng defense regarding sa source ng mga accounts ng PSBank eh. Tong mga judges naman ayaw pa pigil. Labas na sa kanila yan kung peke ba yan o hinde, or trabaho ng defense na prove kung peke ba yan.

Kung ginaya na lang sana ni enrille ang nang yari nung time ni Erap na pina subpoena ang lahat ng account ni Jose Pidal eh ok na sana sabi ng dean ng college of law ng UST.

[CoDer]

“There is question that the prosecutors attached the document. When I signed the subpoena duces tecum, I did not question it because I gave credence to the House (of Representatives). But it now appears that, as per testimony of the PSBank president and Katipunan branch manager, there are differences with the original,” the Senate president noted.

Enrile said he was convinced that the leak did not come from the bank but likely from the team of the BSP, which conducted the audit of bank accounts classified as “politically-exposed person” (PEP), which included Chief Justice Corona.

“I am convinced that the leak did not come from the bank. They submitted it by virtue of respecting the authority of the Central Bank and the Anti-Money Laundering Council. Whether the AMLC or the BSP was the source of the leak is a conclusion that can be drawn from the questions I asked,” Enrile said in an interview prior to the start of Day 21 of the Corona trial yesterday.

The Senate president was careful in saying whether the evidence will be stricken out by the body.

Sorry ng lang mga prosecutor, pomoporma na si manong jhonny na basura lahat ng bank documents and testimonies from PSBank.

Corona is off the hook, pwede na syang sumayaw sa tuwa.

[CoDer]

Ayaw gumana ng edit.

He added that the Senate body still needs to wait for the Supreme Court because there is a prohibition and there is an exclusionary provision under Republic Act 6426, which pertains that bank accounts “cannot be inquired into or looked into or examined.”

Enrile shared the view of Sen. Joker Arroyo who had expressed alarm that government offices may be used in going after personalities believed to be going against the Aquino administration.

“Yes, because the AMLC is not supposed to examine any account without going to court,” Enrile added.

Langya parehas pala sila ng isip ni Joker.

Bye bye na si PNoy nito. It will be SC and Senate vs President after the impeachment.

Hindi na kukurap pinas nito hangang matapos ang term ni PNoy, it will be a painful term indeed.

[wowiesy]

Not offered as evidence but used as support in applying for a subpoena. That said, the prosecution did not vouch for the genuineness of the attachment now being disputed as fake or spurious. The impeachment court, in the meantime, is dwelling too much on how the document was leaked or if the source was from a public officer or a private individual --- all of which should be tackled in a separate investigation or forum.

Curious...

If prosec didnt vouch for the authenticity of the attached document for purposes of the subpoena, would that mean they were still on data gathering /investigation mode? Fishing nga lang talaga... Granted that the court should allow for discovery... Lalong nagiging relevant ang pre trial...

Kung ganyan nga mukhang dapat talaga may pre trial and that should be integrated into the senate rules on impeachment para mas smooth ang process sa trial proper... That way.. Mas productive ang trial..

All that is being accomplished here is ma publicize lahat...

And sa media all they care about is the scoop... The deadlines... Madali nilang ilagay na as of this time the other side has yet to comment, pero tinitira na nila sa editorial nila and commentaries... Wala talaga due process sa media... Kaya din siguro nahawa ang prosec na a media na lang.

[Ry_Tower]

Corona may be off the hook because of poor planning from prosecution but the for me, the damage is done.

[Retz]

AMLC denies auditing PSBank ?

[niwde11]

Corona may be off the hook because of poor planning from prosecution but the for me, the damage is done.

not yet. but if yes, yan naman talaga plan. kasi kung damaging talaga ang kanilang evidence i dont think they will present so many articles. Farinas is very much correct in his observations re; drafting ng articles of impeachment. yung kay del Castillo ayan di minamadali.

[niwde11]

AMLC denies auditing PSBank ?

i think medyo di klaro. masyado general. nag audit yata pero ang ibig sabihin nila di nila touch yung accounts ni corona. technicalities again.:D

[jonski]

Sabik na sabik na si De Lima sa exposure sa TV mamaya para sa senate elections.

[Retz]

^

article 7 na tayo. bumilis na.

[niwde11]

Sabik na sabik na si De Lima sa exposure sa TV mamaya para sa senate elections.

mas sabik na si Drilon magtanong kay deLIma sa harap ng camera.:D

[CoDer]

AMLC denies auditing PSBank ?

Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas - Publications and Research

Only BSP conducts regular audits to the bank. PSBank President is lying

Mas may weight daw ang testimony ng President of PSbank because he was under oath according to the defense. Therefore BSP is lying. Hindi ka talaga pwedeng maging lawyer kung di ka pilosopo oo.

The danger here is that Enrile share the sentiments of Arroyo, and he believes BSP leaked those documents and not PSBank.

Maghanda-handa na ang prosecution nito, talo na sila sa kaso. Enrile will surely not allow those bank documents be admitted as evidence.