Impeachment against CJ Corona..

[shadow]

If psbank allowed the accounts to be seen and checked by BSP and AMLC w/o court orders then it's no difference with the impeachment court..

So Wala na yun hirit ng defense na Huwag tnagapin yun accts as evidence.

Saka hinde naman pala illegal yun pagkuha ng acccts ah it was legally obtained thru subpoena issued by the IC

[Monseratto]

Did the prosecution's copies of the signature card come from BSP and AMLA? Bakit ayaw aminin na lang agad? Or galing sa utos ng Malacanang?

[CoDer]

Did the prosecution's copies of the signature card come from BSP and AMLA? Bakit ayaw aminin na lang agad? Or galing sa utos ng Malacanang?

Joker can answer your question. 2010 pa yung last audit, pina imbestigahan daw.

[shadow]

Pahiya si joc joc eh, sabi niya investigation daw sabi ni ogie Diaz routine audit and hinde lang account ni corona na under PEP ang na audit so basag na gusto niya palabasin na ang target lang ng audit eh si corona, kaya palusot na lang siya na natatakot daw dahil sunod sunod na investigation, eh meron illegal na ginawa eh natural meron investigation. Bakit siya yun chairman pa siya ng blue ribbon nag investigate din naman siya ah.

[CoDer]

If psbank allowed the accounts to be seen and checked by BSP and AMLC w/o court orders then it's no difference with the impeachment court..

So Wala na yun hirit ng defense na Huwag tnagapin yun accts as evidence.

Saka hinde naman pala illegal yun pagkuha ng acccts ah it was legally obtained thru subpoena issued by the IC

Ang ginawa lang naman ng AMLC representative was to check if the bank was complying with AMLC requirement. Hindi tiningnan ang Account details ni Corona. At tsaka from the questioning ot Guingona, it was a regular BSP audit accompanied by AMLC representative from BSP.

Hindi illegal ang pagka kuha ng bank documents that will offered as evidence it was through a subpoena. Defense only way to squash the subpoena is if they can prove that the annex was handed over by a government employee now that the annex cannot be categorically labeled as fake.

And most important part is that the annex closely resembles the original document.

[CoDer]

Pahiya si joc joc eh, sabi niya investigation daw sabi ni ogie Diaz routine audit and hinde lang account ni corona na under PEP ang na audit so basag na gusto niya palabasin na ang target lang ng audit eh si corona, kaya palusot na lang siya na natatakot daw dahil sunod sunod na investigation, eh meron illegal na ginawa eh natural meron investigation. Bakit siya yun chairman pa siya ng blue ribbon nag investigate din naman siya ah.

Nasisiraan na ng bait si Joker.

[shadow]

Masama loob dahil hinde yata sinuportahan ni penot maging senate president.

Sa wakas last term na niya ito magpahinga na siya kasama Tatad and maceda

[niwde11]

Impeachment proceedings just became a senate investigation in aid of legislation

i think mas appropriate ang term na "Senate Investigation in Aid of Impeachment".

[CoDer]

i think mas appropriate ang term na "Senate Investigation in Aid of Impeachment".

Well put.

Blue ribbon committee ng impeachment court yan.

[Retz]

sa AMLC galing ang Annex A? abswelto na ba si "little lady"?

[CoDer]

sa AMLC galing ang Annex A? abswelto na ba si "little lady"?

Kung may kumanta. Otherwise Senate should move on, nalilihis na eh.

Ang natumbok lang ni Marcos kanina eh... Since naireport ng AMLC na walang PEP marking yung mga signature cards during the Audit at ang Annex that was presented eh meron... Meaning the annex did not came from AMLC.

[CoDer]

Ang laking wow mali kay Joker to.

BSP denies it leaked Corona's accounts | ABS-CBN News

PSBank President is really trying hard to deflect the source of the document away from them. Even to the point of saying that AMLC audited them and pointing finger to Jerry Leal, which turned out to be not a member of AMLC but of BSP.

[Retz]

Just a query, Why is there 42 discrepancies in Annex A if it is a faithful reproduction of the original? Will the senate look into the document from AMLC and BSP just to compare it from Annex A? Nalilihis na talaga.... but Senate wants to settle this issue and get the bottomline of this. Natatagalan na tayo dito sa article 2. Gusto ko na marinig article 3.

[Monseratto]

Pustahan papatawag ng Imspitment court yung taga AMLC at iproduce yung kopya nila...Pagkatapos pa ng Holy Week yung susunod na Article.

[CoDer]

Just a query, Why is there 42 discrepancies in Annex A if it is a faithful reproduction of the original? Will the senate look into the document from AMLC and BSP just to compare it from Annex A? Nalilihis na talaga.... but Senate wants to settle this issue and get the bottomline of this. Natatagalan na tayo dito sa article 2. Gusto ko na marinig article 3.

Di na dapat nila push yan, nawawala na sila sa kaso eh. Tsaka hindi document at signature expert ang President ng PSBank.

Ibang forum na dapat yan Annex issue na yan. Wala nang kinalaman sa kaso yan eh.

[Altis6453]

Just a query, Why is there 42 discrepancies in Annex A if it is a faithful reproduction of the original? Will the senate look into the document from AMLC and BSP just to compare it from Annex A? Nalilihis na talaga.... but Senate wants to settle this issue and get the bottomline of this. Natatagalan na tayo dito sa article 2. Gusto ko na marinig article 3.

It's hard to say without examining the original, but from experience, the discrepancies could be markings made by whoever the custodian of the record is. What's not being explored or considered further is whether or not the signature appearing on the document presented by the prosecution and the one in custody of the bank is genuine.

[Retz]

It's hard to say without examining the original, but from experience, the discrepancies could be markings made by whoever the custodian of the record is. What's not being explored or considered further is whether or not the signature appearing on the document presented by the prosecution and the one in custody of the bank is genuine.

That is why sen. judge Lacson is suggesting that this be examined by handwriting experts from PNP or NBI. But presiding officer declined it ang prosekusyon daw ang dapat gumawa niyan. But then again, hindi daw ito evidence ng prosecution. ang gulo.

[niwde11]

TBut then again, hindi daw ito evidence ng prosecution. ang gulo.

so does that means lahat ng lumabas sa particular evidence na yan ay inadmissible in the impeachment court?

[Retz]

so does that means lahat ng lumabas sa particular evidence na yan ay inadmissible in the impeachment court?

From what I understand, ung Annex A supplemental document lang un na naka attach sa subpoena. Prosecution did not mark it as their evidence. Kaya nga they are discussing this Annex A na irrelevant naman kasi hindi ito ni offer ng prosecution as evidence. Tama ba pagkaintindi ko coder?

[niwde11]

From what I understand, ung Annex A supplemental document lang un na naka attach sa subpoena. Prosecution did not mark it as their evidence. Kaya nga they are discussing this Annex A na irrelevant naman kasi hindi ito ni offer ng prosecution as evidence. Tama ba pagkaintindi ko coder?

lawyer ba coder? baka kay altis6453 mo tinatanong?