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    #101
    just VOTE for the Presidential Candidate that is worth it

    why Richard Gordon?
    - he is a Dick, a dick that knows how to enter into things and make a resolution and progress out of it.
    - a person that "walks the talk."

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    #102
    Ayos ang palitan ng opinion dito gentlemanly, sa kabila(Noynoy thread) medyo nagkaka ku*alan na...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Ayos ang palitan ng opinion dito gentlemanly, sa kabila(Noynoy thread) medyo nagkaka ku*alan na...
    Sir, i think this is a manifestation of discipline and education on the part of the participants when the discussion is about an equally disciplined and educated candidate(s). To me, this is really positive as it shows that smart pinoys take this seriously devoid of the usual funfare of showbiz and distasteful tirades involved in the candidacy of others. Proof that we can have sensible discussions if we want to and most especially, because we can when it matters.

    Sana lang eh this microcosm of gentlemen be a growing tribe for the sake of our beloved country.

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    #104
    Gordon is a great candidate. Second choice ko sya. But of course, actual voting is months away so I can always change my mind. We'll see.
    And yes, this thread is more 'civilized' compared to that of Noynoy's. Ang iba kasi mag express lang ng opinion akala mo sila na lang ang may utak or magaling.

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    #105
    Yep maganda ang talakayan wag lang pasukan ng mga bugoy. Masarap magbasa kung ganyan...

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    #106
    Got this from Noynoy's thread.
    Bugoy ba ito?

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    simple thread question that is answerable by "yes or no", bakit napasukan ng mga Dick lovers dito?

    personally I am still undecided between Gibo and Noynoy.

    I just don't get the logic of the Dick lovers that wala naman daw experience si Noynoy? sino na ba meron experience sa Presidentiable? if yan ang requirements ninyo then why don't you all just vote for ERAP? anyhow, siya lang ang meron experience to be President.

    as for Gordon, tutal pinipilit na magaling daw siya ng mga DL dito. same with BF, maliit ang MariQuote:
    Originally Posted by AnK
    simple thread question that is answerable by "yes or no", bakit napasukan ng mga Dick lovers dito?

    personally I am still undecided between Gibo and Noynoy.

    I just don't get the logic of the Dick lovers that wala naman daw experience si Noynoy? sino na ba meron experience sa Presidentiable? if yan ang requirements ninyo then why don't you all just vote for ERAP? anyhow, siya lang ang meron experience to be President.

    as for Gordon, tutal pinipilit na magaling daw siya ng mga DL dito. same with BF, maliit ang Marikina or Olongapo compare sa buong Pilipinas.

    ERAP na lang boto niyo gusto niyo naman meron experience eh. sino ba talaga ang meron experience sa lahat ng tatakbo to be our President? anong qualities or requirements dapat para maging President?
    can someone please ban stupidity in this thread.
    ina or Olongapo compare sa buong Pilipinas.

    ERAP na lang boto niyo gusto niyo naman meron experience eh. sino ba talaga ang meron experience sa lahat ng tatakbo to be our President? anong qualities or requirements dapat para maging President?"

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    #107
    Bugoy in the house!




    ^what part of SARCASM you didn't understand? don't take my comments seriously if you're for Dick then go ahead nobody's stopping you. instead of shoving your choice to us, why don't you just volunteer on his campaign para naman tumaas yun ratings niya. I think he needs all the help that he can get. kawawa eh, how many percent na nga ba yun transformer?

    panalo na si Gordon and Bayani sa mga third ***...

    meron ng dick meron pang BF.:rofl:

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    #108
    A vote for Gordon is just like my vote for the late Raul Roco...translation a vote for Gordon is a vote for Villar....

    Noynoy pa rin....

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    #109
    Bugoy nga!

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    #110
    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    A vote for Gordon is just like my vote for the late Raul Roco...translation a vote for Gordon is a vote for Villar....

    Noynoy pa rin....
    With all due respect sir. I have a question.
    Natuloy ba si Roco until election day or nag backout because of health problems?

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    #111
    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    With all due respect sir. I have a question.
    Natuloy ba si Roco until election day or nag backout because of health problems?
    Roco run for president twice, first in 1998 and then 2004, he lost in both. But I agree na on the second try his health affected his candicacy...but then my point is, his candidacy in 1998 when he had no health issues would be somehow similar to that of Gordon now...so for me, while my first choice is Goron, history and experience tells me a vote for him will only benefit a candidate i loathe to win (Villar)...so why waste my vote on him, I rather have a Noynoy presidency than a Villar administration (kuratot to the max para maka-bawi sa na-spend during the campaign, remember business man yan so all of his expenses now is just part of his investment, and the electorate voting or him is also the other part of investment, and once elected, he will reap the harvest/profits...

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    Roco run for president twice, first in 1998 and then 2004, he lost in both. But I agree na on the second try his health affected his candicacy...but then my point is, his candidacy in 1998 when he had no health issues would be somehow similar to that of Gordon now...so for me, while my first choice is Goron, history and experience tells me a vote for him will only benefit a candidate i loathe to win (Villar)...so why waste my vote on him, I rather have a Noynoy presidency than a Villar administration (kuratot to the max para maka-bawi sa na-spend during the campaign, remember business man yan so all of his expenses now is just part of his investment, and the electorate voting or him is also the other part of investment, and once elected, he will reap the harvest/profits...
    Thank you sir. I know we both only want the best result for our country.
    If only Gordon and Villar are leading the surveys(if its reliable) then we are on the same fence.

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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Tailhook View Post
    Gordon is a great candidate. Second choice ko sya. But of course, actual voting is months away so I can always change my mind. We'll see.
    And yes, this thread is more 'civilized' compared to that of Noynoy's. Ang iba kasi mag express lang ng opinion akala mo sila na lang ang may utak or magaling.
    I second the motion, Gordon is my second choice. Anyway I still have enough time to evaluate further about my first choice too. Very catchy yung mga sinasabi nya and sensible unlike Noynoy na parang kausap ay hangin.

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    #114
    I will vote for Gordon . . . but Bayani? Never!

    I did noticed some "hostile" threads here especially when it comes to Noynoy, they really love the guy. They would even go to the extent of "mob mentality" when you disagree with them.

    I hope you won't do the same with me . . . by the way, I'm a NEWBIE here.

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    Hi speed chick, welcome to tsikot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    Roco run for president twice, first in 1998 and then 2004, he lost in both. But I agree na on the second try his health affected his candicacy...but then my point is, his candidacy in 1998 when he had no health issues would be somehow similar to that of Gordon now...so for me, while my first choice is Goron, history and experience tells me a vote for him will only benefit a candidate i loathe to win (Villar)...so why waste my vote on him, I rather have a Noynoy presidency than a Villar administration (kuratot to the max para maka-bawi sa na-spend during the campaign, remember business man yan so all of his expenses now is just part of his investment, and the electorate voting or him is also the other part of investment, and once elected, he will reap the harvest/profits...
    I have a lot of friends who share the same thinking as yours, sir. Ang sa akin lang po, sana eh we vote to help our candidates win rather than to help our "hated" candidates lose. As per my observation, sa kagustuhan natin na wag manalo yung ayaw nating kandidato, we're being too clever that we're actually not giving the chance for our chosen ones to win. Malay natin... yung collective "smart" votes natin eh yun lang pala ang kailangan para manalo naman yung dapat manalo.

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    #117
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFlash View Post
    Sayang si Gordon. Well meaning, track record, bright. Except that his ego gets in the way. Unsolicited advice for him:

    1. Pay more attention to research - especially the ones where people give reasons why they won't vote for you. Instead of ignoring - as you like to claim - do something about it. Like retool your communications and pronouncements accordingly.

    2. Try a little humility. When you say "Been there, done that...", it sounds like you won't learn anything new anymore. Parang ang tigas naman ng ulo mo. Even great leaders learned new things in the course of their public service.

    3. Try a little empathy. When the poor say, "Gusto namin ng kandidatong tutulong sa amin", don't reply with "Those who don't work, don't get to eat. Bawal ang tamad." Nakaka-insulto sa mga totoong naghahanap ng trabaho pero wala namang makita. Tuloy, parang napaka-insensitive ng dating at hindi nakakintindi ng dinadaanan ng naghihirap sa buhay.

    4. Enough of Olongapo and Subic. Masyadong maliliit na lugar ang mga yan kung ikumpara sa buong bayan. Sure, the principles are the same but you can't apply everything in its entirety. It's like saying, "Nakaayos ako ng Vios, ergo kaya ko rin ang barko."
    the best argument i have seen so far

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    #118
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFlash View Post
    4. Enough of Olongapo and Subic. Masyadong maliliit na lugar ang mga yan kung ikumpara sa buong bayan. Sure, the principles are the same but you can't apply everything in its entirety. It's like saying, "Nakaayos ako ng Vios, ergo kaya ko rin ang barko."
    Thanks for sharing, Jackflash. For discussion, going in terms of your analogy, oks, at least naka-ayos si Sen Gordon ng "Vios", and to give analogy that Sen Gordon rose Subic and Olongapo from the ashes of being devastated by Pinatubo, and the sudden loss of jobs from the U.S. bases pull-out, it was like Sen Gordon even fixed a "total wreck", or even "fully flooded vios"

    Now, also using your analogy, what has the other candidates fixed, to make us think they could manage a "barko"? Nakaayos na ba sila ng "Vios"? If not, how about "motor"? "bisikleta"? "toy car"? To take away the analogy, may nagawa na ba sila sa probinsiya nila? distrito? subdivision? kalye? :dunno: Wala talaga, and yet they spent millions in our tax money while just sitting in those government positions.

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    #119
    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_taga View Post
    I have a lot of friends who share the same thinking as yours, sir. Ang sa akin lang po, sana eh we vote to help our candidates win rather than to help our "hated" candidates lose. As per my observation, sa kagustuhan natin na wag manalo yung ayaw nating kandidato, we're being too clever that we're actually not giving the chance for our chosen ones to win. Malay natin... yung collective "smart" votes natin eh yun lang pala ang kailangan para manalo naman yung dapat manalo.
    Sir voting roco then was actually my "smart" vote, I was also hoping for a collective effort from those who had a similar mindset pero the rest is history...so for me, if only to help ensure na villar will not win, noynoy na lang ako...just imagine if in 1998 election all who disliked estrada voted in unison in favor of one candidate, then erap would have not won....

    because we are not in a 2 party system so plurality of votes ang nangyari- in effect we elect a minority president

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    #120
    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_taga View Post
    I have a lot of friends who share the same thinking as yours, sir. Ang sa akin lang po, sana eh we vote to help our candidates win rather than to help our "hated" candidates lose. As per my observation, sa kagustuhan natin na wag manalo yung ayaw nating kandidato, we're being too clever that we're actually not giving the chance for our chosen ones to win. Malay natin... yung collective "smart" votes natin eh yun lang pala ang kailangan para manalo naman yung dapat manalo.
    Sir voting roco then was actually my "smart" vote, I was also hoping for a collective effort from those who had a similar mindset pero the rest is history...so for me, if only to help ensure na villar will not win, noynoy na lang ako...just imagine if in 1998 election all who disliked estrada voted in unison in favor of one candidate, then erap would have not won....

    because we are not in a 2 party system so plurality of votes ang nangyari- in effect we elect a minority president

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