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    Im not a die hard fan of this guy (more of Villar), but lately
    I have been listening to his interviews, mukhang malakas ang political will nitong tao. Parang Lee Kwan Yu.
    I want to "disect" this person and find out if he deseves to be the next President of the Philippines.

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    I've always liked Dick Gordon. He has the will, the drive and the administrative ability (witness how SBMA has fared since they removed him... )... the only problem is he lacks the exposure and recognition of other, less qualified candidates.

    And man, is the guy a good speaker.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    ang dumi ng trapo!

    he handled the red cross volunteers hostage situation badly, he was practically opposing all the effort and plans of the AFP.

    he heads a supposedly apolitical group, and yet he is a Senator of the land. how can he separate himself, his position from the red cross?

    aside from the fact that he is languishing in the bottom of all the Presidential surveys.
    Last edited by shadow; October 6th, 2009 at 12:11 PM.

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    para ba syang si Bayani Fernando?

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    Sa interview na mention about the ratings.
    He said that during his senatorial campaign ganyan din pero he was 4th overall.
    Sa red cross naman member na siya even at the time na tatay pa niya ang mayor ng Olongapo, malamang matagal na. Ramos and Binay are Boy Scout if I remember correct.
    I consider myself a no nonsense person, but when i listen to him he makes sense. Mayabang siya magsalita pero tama and sinasabi niya.
    Kung may baho itong tao na ito I want to know.

    In what specific way siya pareho kay BF?

    How can we define a TraPo (Traditional Politician)? And how is Gordon one?
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    top candidate ko ito

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    i'm not saying saying he's awfully bad but i suspect his intention of proposing an additional ray in the sun of our flag to honor muslim mindanao. . .an obvious manifestation of a trapo characteristic. . .ano pinagkaiba nya ke villar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Sa interview na mention about the ratings.
    He said that during his senatorial campaign ganyan din pero he was 4th overall.
    Sa red cross naman member na siya even at the time na tatay pa niya ang mayor ng Olongapo, malamang matagal na. Ramos and Binay are Boy Scout if I remember correct.
    I consider myself a no nonsense person, but when i listen to him he makes sense. Mayabang siya magsalita pero tama and sinasabi niya.
    Kung may baho itong tao na ito I want to know.

    In what specific way siya pareho kay BF?

    How can we define a TraPo (Traditional Politician)? And how is Gordon one?
    Some observations:

    1. 4th overall, senatorial elections - in a contest where the voter has to write 24 names, the law of probability was on his side. In the presidential elections, voters will be asked to write down (or tick if automated) 1 name only. The law of probability may not be favorable this time around.
    2. Mayabang magsalita, pero tama ang sinasabi - in many cases, yes. But it is the same yabang that turns people off and alienates the masa. Yung yabang gets in the way. Kaya siguro mababa ang ratings.
    3. TraPo - for someone who used to be a critic of PGMA, he became a pro-admin senator. That's trapo in my book. His bluster and bravado also makes him come across as one, IMO.

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    I will respect all views!

    Question.
    Why 24 names?
    Hitler and Ali where mayabang but they can mobilize and deliver.
    I dont really know kung whether pro or anti GMA siya or issue oriented ito.
    Elaborate if you can please!

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    He definitely has the political will, independent mind, and a proven action man. But he always sound like he's bragging and tend to patronize others who do not share his opinions. It is his high brow, tactless approach that made him a marked man to many. He has the feistiness just a little less than Sen. Miriam Santiago that alienated many potential allies.

    If he has the financial resources of Villar, he should make a run for the presidency. If not he should have an established political party to make a credible run. Again, if this not the case, he should wait for another six years and try to be a nicer fellow.

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    ang dumi ng trapo!

    he handled the red cross volunteers hostage situation badly, he was practically opposing all the effort and plans of the AFP.
    the way he handled that is a strong sign that he, if elected as president, could be another commander-in-cheap like pGMA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Parang Lee Kwan Yu.
    Really? In what way?

    The closest we had to someone like Lee Kuan Yew was Marcos. They both valued stability and order.

    But there were differences. LKY had zero tolerance for corruption. And LKY believed in meritocracy - that is, you get ahead in life through talent, skills and hard work. Not connections. Not through relatives. Not because you and the other person comes from the same province.

    That is why Singapore prospered and we have not.

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    bakit maraming dinidikit yun sarili nila as Lee Kwan Yu of the Philippines? first nakita ko before yun election si Lacson, then Bayani Fernando ngayon si Gordon naman

    wala na ba talagang konting hiya mga politicians natin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post

    Really? In what way?

    Determination even at the hardest time. After Mount Pinatubo and The US pullout, parang naputukan ng Atomic bomb ang Olongapo/Subic. Gordon was the one who invited investors and they came.

    Singapore had the same situation when it became Independent and Britain pulled out. It was LKY who spearheaded the campaign.

    The closest we had to someone like Lee Kuan Yew was Marcos. They both valued stability and order.

    But there were differences. LKY had zero tolerance for corruption. And LKY believed in meritocracy - that is, you get ahead in life through talent, skills and hard work. Not connections. Not through relatives. Not because you and the other person comes from the same province.

    That is why Singapore prospered and we have not.
    I will respect all views. But I have some questions.
    When the Americans left Subic what happened?
    Mag kasing laki kaya ang Subic at Singapore?
    Was Gordon instrumental in mobilizing the citizenry to make Subic what it is before the time of Payumo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    I will respect all views. But I have some questions.
    When the Americans left Subic what happened?
    Mag kasing laki kaya ang Subic at Singapore?
    Was Gordon instrumental in mobilizing the citizenry to make Subic what it is before the time of Payumo?
    I will give credit where it's due. Gordon's leadership in Subic inspired volunteerism. People watched over the place, even w/o pay so no one could loot the homes and offices left by the Americans. Unlike Clark wherein ultimong inodoro pinutakti.

    Size of Subic vs Singapore: Smaller yata. But that doesn't diminish Gordon's achievements there. Up to now, ordinary employees in Subic still talk of the good old days under Gordon.

    Re Subic's advances under Gordon - also remarkable. Same as Makati under Binay (at least accdg to the masa, and not the "Villagers" and business groups), and San Juan under Erap. But not all mayors, chairmen and administrators are cut out to become president. That's why Binay, BF and Gordon are low in the surveys. One former mayor who became pres was Erap. And we know what happened to him.

    Sidebar: One time, I was in Singapore, in a taxi from the airport to the hotel. Cab driver asked where I was from and when he found out Philippines, aba, nag-sermon ba naman about too much democracy, etc. vs. his country where there was more discipline. Nainis ako and told him, Singapore, his country is just as big as Manila, our capital city whose population is even bigger than Singapore's. The job of their prime minister could be handled by a mayor in the Phils. When I asked if a prime minister in Singapore could run 7000 islands with a population of 80+ million multi-cultural, multi-religious, multi-ethnic people, he scratched his head and shrugged his shoulders. Buti na lang he was still honest coz hindi tinaga yung fare.

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    Thank you Jackflash!

    Last year, Villar ako may experience as congressman, speaker, senator tapos senate president, businessminded, may money for the presidential campaign then I realized that is not enough. Im not saying wag natin iboto siya but sino kaya ang may experience sa pag ahon from a real problem.

    Pros and cons about Gordon welcome po as long as we can verify and confirm. Mga taga Subic at Olongapo diyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Thank you Jackflash!

    Last year, Villar ako may experience as congressman, speaker, senator tapos senate president, businessminded, may money for the presidential campaign then I realized that is not enough. Im not saying wag natin iboto siya but sino kaya ang may experience sa pag ahon from a real problem.

    Pros and cons about Gordon welcome po as long as we can verify and confirm. Mga taga Subic at Olongapo diyan
    Im from Subic, Gordon can lead just like other trapos. And take note that not only Zambalenyo volunteers after Americans left but also people from Bataan. Larger portion of SBMA is part of Bataan. But when investors came to SBMA only residence of Zambales can apply for a Job inside SMBA. If your resume says your from difference province your out.

    Admittedly Gordon saved SBMA but thats it. Corruption were rampant during his time. In Gordon's administration started exotic cars smuggling.

    And today's SBMA is way way way better than Gordon's era....You should visit SBMA to see to yourselves...

    At sabi badingerzi daw si "Dick".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Im not a die hard fan of this guy (more of Villar), but lately
    I have been listening to his interviews, mukhang malakas ang political will nitong tao. Parang Lee Kwan Yu.
    I want to "disect" this person and find out if he deseves to be the next President of the Philippines.
    magaling sya at magaling na presidente kaso mas pinipili ng pinoy ung mas sikat maski hndi magaling kaya walang mangyari sa pinas

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    Traveling woes we face everyday for us Tsikoters and here is what Gordon has to say...

    “The biggest mistake we have committed was to neglect the railroad and to depend on cargo trucks to ship produce from the producers to the consumers,” Gordon continued. “Costly transportation is also the reason we have a serious squatting problem in the urban areas. Workers want to live close to their places of work to save on time and fares. But they don’t have to be squatters in urban areas if they can commute to their homes in the provinces through fast trains. Workers in Tokyo, Japan, for example, commute everyday to their homes as far away as the equivalent of Manila to Tarlac or Pangasinan and La Union because of the Bullet Train.”

    Gordon and Fernando continued: “And that’s the reason for the traffic congestion in Metro Manila. Cargo trucks from the northern provinces going south of Manila have to pass through Metro Manila, even when they have nothing to do there, because there is no other way, and thus contribute to the traffic jams. With the railroad, cargo doesn’t have to pass through downtown Metro Manila.”

    Another cause of traffic jams is that huge truck-trailers carrying container vans from the piers to their final destinations compete with downtown traffic. There used to be railroad tracks from the piers to the Tutuban terminal and, from there, to points north and south of Manila. Why not rehabilitate these tracks and transport cargo from the piers through the railroad so cargo trucks don’t have to add to the traffic congestion?

    Gordon said one of his priorities would be to rehabilitate, modernize, and expand the railroad."


    - Neil Cruz, PDI

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquirer...ick-and-Bayani

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonCamote View Post
    Traveling woes we face everyday for us Tsikoters and here is what Gordon has to say...

    “The biggest mistake we have committed was to neglect the railroad and to depend on cargo trucks to ship produce from the producers to the consumers,” Gordon continued. “Costly transportation is also the reason we have a serious squatting problem in the urban areas. Workers want to live close to their places of work to save on time and fares. But they don’t have to be squatters in urban areas if they can commute to their homes in the provinces through fast trains. Workers in Tokyo, Japan, for example, commute everyday to their homes as far away as the equivalent of Manila to Tarlac or Pangasinan and La Union because of the Bullet Train.”

    Gordon and Fernando continued: “And that’s the reason for the traffic congestion in Metro Manila. Cargo trucks from the northern provinces going south of Manila have to pass through Metro Manila, even when they have nothing to do there, because there is no other way, and thus contribute to the traffic jams. With the railroad, cargo doesn’t have to pass through downtown Metro Manila.”

    Another cause of traffic jams is that huge truck-trailers carrying container vans from the piers to their final destinations compete with downtown traffic. There used to be railroad tracks from the piers to the Tutuban terminal and, from there, to points north and south of Manila. Why not rehabilitate these tracks and transport cargo from the piers through the railroad so cargo trucks don’t have to add to the traffic congestion?

    Gordon said one of his priorities would be to rehabilitate, modernize, and expand the railroad."


    - Neil Cruz, PDI

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquirer...ick-and-Bayani
    + 1 point for the Transformers (Gordon & Fernando)

    This is one great idea, for us to easily move our shipping in fast pace; this could even mean, more Import and Export here in our country......

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