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    Im not a die hard fan of this guy (more of Villar), but lately
    I have been listening to his interviews, mukhang malakas ang political will nitong tao. Parang Lee Kwan Yu.
    I want to "disect" this person and find out if he deseves to be the next President of the Philippines.

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    I've always liked Dick Gordon. He has the will, the drive and the administrative ability (witness how SBMA has fared since they removed him... )... the only problem is he lacks the exposure and recognition of other, less qualified candidates.

    And man, is the guy a good speaker.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    ang dumi ng trapo!

    he handled the red cross volunteers hostage situation badly, he was practically opposing all the effort and plans of the AFP.

    he heads a supposedly apolitical group, and yet he is a Senator of the land. how can he separate himself, his position from the red cross?

    aside from the fact that he is languishing in the bottom of all the Presidential surveys.
    Last edited by shadow; October 6th, 2009 at 12:11 PM.

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    para ba syang si Bayani Fernando?

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    Sa interview na mention about the ratings.
    He said that during his senatorial campaign ganyan din pero he was 4th overall.
    Sa red cross naman member na siya even at the time na tatay pa niya ang mayor ng Olongapo, malamang matagal na. Ramos and Binay are Boy Scout if I remember correct.
    I consider myself a no nonsense person, but when i listen to him he makes sense. Mayabang siya magsalita pero tama and sinasabi niya.
    Kung may baho itong tao na ito I want to know.

    In what specific way siya pareho kay BF?

    How can we define a TraPo (Traditional Politician)? And how is Gordon one?
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    top candidate ko ito

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    i'm not saying saying he's awfully bad but i suspect his intention of proposing an additional ray in the sun of our flag to honor muslim mindanao. . .an obvious manifestation of a trapo characteristic. . .ano pinagkaiba nya ke villar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Sa interview na mention about the ratings.
    He said that during his senatorial campaign ganyan din pero he was 4th overall.
    Sa red cross naman member na siya even at the time na tatay pa niya ang mayor ng Olongapo, malamang matagal na. Ramos and Binay are Boy Scout if I remember correct.
    I consider myself a no nonsense person, but when i listen to him he makes sense. Mayabang siya magsalita pero tama and sinasabi niya.
    Kung may baho itong tao na ito I want to know.

    In what specific way siya pareho kay BF?

    How can we define a TraPo (Traditional Politician)? And how is Gordon one?
    Some observations:

    1. 4th overall, senatorial elections - in a contest where the voter has to write 24 names, the law of probability was on his side. In the presidential elections, voters will be asked to write down (or tick if automated) 1 name only. The law of probability may not be favorable this time around.
    2. Mayabang magsalita, pero tama ang sinasabi - in many cases, yes. But it is the same yabang that turns people off and alienates the masa. Yung yabang gets in the way. Kaya siguro mababa ang ratings.
    3. TraPo - for someone who used to be a critic of PGMA, he became a pro-admin senator. That's trapo in my book. His bluster and bravado also makes him come across as one, IMO.

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    I will respect all views!

    Question.
    Why 24 names?
    Hitler and Ali where mayabang but they can mobilize and deliver.
    I dont really know kung whether pro or anti GMA siya or issue oriented ito.
    Elaborate if you can please!

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    He definitely has the political will, independent mind, and a proven action man. But he always sound like he's bragging and tend to patronize others who do not share his opinions. It is his high brow, tactless approach that made him a marked man to many. He has the feistiness just a little less than Sen. Miriam Santiago that alienated many potential allies.

    If he has the financial resources of Villar, he should make a run for the presidency. If not he should have an established political party to make a credible run. Again, if this not the case, he should wait for another six years and try to be a nicer fellow.

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    Pwede, pwede....

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    ang dumi ng trapo!

    he handled the red cross volunteers hostage situation badly, he was practically opposing all the effort and plans of the AFP.
    the way he handled that is a strong sign that he, if elected as president, could be another commander-in-cheap like pGMA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    I will respect all views!

    Question.
    Why 24 names?
    Hitler and Ali where mayabang but they can mobilize and deliver.
    I dont really know kung whether pro or anti GMA siya or issue oriented ito.
    Elaborate if you can please!
    1. 24 names - in the last senatorial race, voters were supposed to write down 24 names. Or was it 12? Can't recall for sure. But regardless of the nos., if a candidate had decent poll ratings, the law of probability puts him in a greater chance to be part of the 24 (or 12).
    2. Hitler and Ali - captured the imagination of the people. Hilter's yabang was inspirational to the Germans of that era. Ali's bravado was amusing. Gordon's is neither, hence he doesn't capture people's imaginations, based on poll nos.
    3. Pro or anti-GMA - he's an admin senator. What other elaboration do you need? But as 4wrider pointed out, he turns off even his allies, kaya wala siya sa admin ticket. Imagine, the admin party imported Gibo from the NPC, supposedly an opposition party, overlooking Gordon the ally who was already prisintado even before Teodoro declared his intentions.

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    He can spring into action during calamities fast due to his experience with SBMA/Pinatubo and Red Cross but as a politician; However, when i go to Zambales and talk to some parties over there, i've been getting the feedback that this guy is one hellava trapo and does have his share of kickback and vested interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    I will respect all views!

    Question.
    Why 24 names?
    Hitler and Ali where mayabang but they can mobilize and deliver.
    I dont really know kung whether pro or anti GMA siya or issue oriented ito.
    Elaborate if you can please!
    maybe he just mixed up the number we only votes 12 Senators during elections...
    Hitler, who will oppose Hitler during that time. while Ali has the angst but he's just an athlete. and not a politician...both of their angst can't be compare to Gordon's.

    he was pro then anti then pro then anti then now I don't know...

    no difference from Joker Arroyo, when the Kampi party bankrolled his candidacy last election, naputol na bigla yun dila at wala ng sinasabi kahit anong issue against the admin..nakalimutan na yun election slogan niya "pag bad ka, lagot ka!"

    anyway, unless the earth knock off from it's axis then Gordon, doesn't stand a chance to win in the Presidentail election.

    bakit pareho sila ni Bayani Fernando? parehong delusional na mananalo sa PResidential election, eh pareho naman nasa kangkunang sa survey. ulitmo sariling party nila hinde sila pinapansin.

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    Good observation and feedback Shadow and Vinj!

    "Pro or anti-GMA - he's an admin senator. What other elaboration do you need? But as 4wrider pointed out, he turns off even his allies, kaya wala siya sa admin ticket. Imagine, the admin party imported Gibo from the NPC, supposedly an opposition party, overlooking Gordon the ally who was already prisintado even before Teodoro declared his intentions."

    Maybe natatakot Admin masilip or masisi ni Gordon or BF(in case they win) kaya si Gibo ang gusto nila na walang kaalam alam sa mga ginawa ni PGMA dahil bagong sali lang siya. Kung minsan pro minsan anti sila sa admin maybe the reason na hindi sila sinuportahan, baka ilabas nila mga maling nagawa ng admin once President na sila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    Good observation and feedback Shadow and Vinj!

    "Pro or anti-GMA - he's an admin senator. What other elaboration do you need? But as 4wrider pointed out, he turns off even his allies, kaya wala siya sa admin ticket. Imagine, the admin party imported Gibo from the NPC, supposedly an opposition party, overlooking Gordon the ally who was already prisintado even before Teodoro declared his intentions."

    Maybe natatakot Admin masilip or masisi ni Gordon or BF(in case they win) kaya si Gibo ang gusto nila na walang kaalam alam sa mga ginawa ni PGMA dahil bagong sali lang siya. Kung minsan pro minsan anti sila sa admin maybe the reason na hindi sila sinuportahan, baka ilabas nila mga maling nagawa ng admin once President na sila.
    Gordon has apparently alienate his former allies with his bullheadedness aka political will. Gibo, on the other hand, has managed to spring to the top the administration party from practically out of nowhere. Although, for sure he is not Gloria's personal choice he was able to get the admiration and approval of the his new partymates.

    Personal amiability is what Gordon should have cultivated but did not causing him to lose even his natural political allies. And this is what is needed for a minority president (whoever will be elected) to get the support of the majority. Gordon is like a male version of GMA, personally obnoxious. But the big difference is that GMA was able to project herself as a la Aunor (Ate Guy) to the masses - usually typecast as "api". However, it is this lack of personal appeal that compelled GMA to buy the "loyalty" of her "allies", this is political patronage par excellance.

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    he made a fool of himself in last sunday's uaap championship game.

    ang dami tuloy na-burat sa kanya na kapwa niya atenista

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    maybe he just mixed up the number we only votes 12 Senators during elections...
    Shadow, thanks for pointing out. My bad. There are 24 senators but only 12 are voted in every 3 yrs. Like I said, because a voter writes 12 names on the ballot, those w/ good standing in the ratings stand a good chance of making it.

    In the case of Gordon, maybe what the ratings are telling him is that people can accept him as senator, but not as president. In the case of BF, he is an appointee, never elected by anyone to become MMDA chief. How can he even think that people would want to vote for him as pres? Yun ang ilusyon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    he made a fool of himself in last sunday's uaap championship game.

    ang dami tuloy na-burat sa kanya na kapwa niya atenista


    Bakit.....ano ginawa nya, Bro?

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