Gordon will!

[CVT]

^^^ Siyempre, leading sila eh.... sa jingle at rap.....

9202:toothbrush:

[Hanren]

I'm taking a second look at Gordon... He might not be a bad choice after all...

[hein]

I have seen Olongapo under GORDON and I was impressed. 1st World management indeed.

[explorer]

talaga bang dati ng mayaman si Gordon or yumanman lang din sya sa pagnanakaw sa pera ng bayan? bakit ang mga tao si Nonoy sinasabi nila na mayaman pero si Gordon walang nagsabi na mayaman sya. based on GMA7's report, 2x na mas mayaman si Gordon kay Nonoy. kahit panahon pa noon ni Marcos, nasa gobyerno na ang mga Gordons. pero talaga bang mayaman na talaga sila dati pa kahit di pa sila pumasok sa goryerno? among the 4, si Noynoy actually ang pinaka-mahirap. ang the irony is...the one claiming na galing sa mahirap, sya ang pinaka-mayaman ng di hamak.

Top bets for president grow wealth despite poll expenses:

Aquino
1998 - P8.42 million
2003 - P11.98 million
2005 - P13.47 million
2007 - P13.94 million

Gordon
1992 - P8.3 million
1995 - P11.87 million
2002 - P22.38 million
2005 - P24.92 million
2007 - P26.52 million

Teodoro
1998 - P80.17 million
2002 - P75.54 million
2005 - P102.62 million
2008 - P232.43 million

Villar
1992 - P75.43 million
1996 - P310.92 million
2002 - P481.50 million
2005 - P750.82 million
2008 - P1.05 billion

Source: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/183367/t...-poll-expenses

[4JGtootsie]

A quotation from SGT TAGA,

we all have our ideas on the good and bad sides of the candidates. thus, if i may suggest, let's stick to the facts when we reply on this issue. that is, if we have no real proof and we just have hearsays, then, at least let's mention that when we say sometihing nasty or good about a candidate. for example, "narinig ko na si gordon ay ...", "sabi ng kapitbahay ko eh si gibo raw yung ...", "nabasa ko sa tabloid na si villar daw eh ...", etc. sa ganyan, maiiwasan natin ang magtirahan ng personal sa ganitong forum. suggestion lang naman mga brader. its better not to pose as a first hand witness if we just got the news from the grapevine.
. :-)

.
Aquino
1998 - P8.42 million
2003 - P11.98 million
2005 - P13.47 million
2007 - P13.94 million

Gordon
1992 - P8.3 million
1995 - P11.87 million
2002 - P22.38 million
2005 - P24.92 million
2007 - P26.52 million

Teodoro
1998 - P80.17 million
2002 - P75.54 million
2005 - P102.62 million
2008 - P232.43 million

Villar
1992 - P75.43 million
1996 - P310.92 million
2002 - P481.50 million
2005 - P750.82 million
2008 - P1.05 billioin

What does this figure prove sir?
How long has Gordon been in Government service?
Was there a case of embezzlement or corruption filed against Gordon?
Nanalo po ba?
Maybe you can convince me not to vote for Gordon

[Autobeat]

Source: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/183367/t...-poll-expenses

Thanks for sharing, explorer. I expected Gordon to have the most sense and transparent SALN. It got confirmed as I read through the report by GMA:

"Gordon was the most detailed about the type, value, and nature of his real property holdings."

"Most transparent

Of the five candidates, Gordon is the most detailed and forthcoming in his SALN declarations. "


Now let's have a look at Teodoro's

Teodoro
1998 - P80.17 million
2002 - P75.54 million
2005 - P102.62 million
2008 - P232.43 million

Woh! That's big! And at such a few years as a politician. . .

Check-out what the report said about Gibo:

"In 2007, his arithmetic failed. Teodoro enrolled a wrong total for the value of the same real assets at P100.97 million, even as he reported only the following details: Makati condominium, P32.5 million; interest in real estate in Sampaloc, Manila, P26 million; Makati residential lot, P25 million. Based on only these assets, the correct total should still have been just P83.5 million.

A big surprise came in 2008, when Teodoro suddenly racked up the values of the same three real properties, albeit with still an erroneous total value.:doh: He reported this time that his Makati condominum unit was worth P39.98 million; interest in real estate in Sampaloc, Manila, P125.74 million; and the Makati residential lot, still P25 million. Teodoro’s SALN in 2008 reported a total value of the assets at P205.04 million, when the right sum should have been only P190.72 million."

So what was happening here? Was there some magic going on with his numbers? Even if he maybe used a lawyer or accountant, does he not proof read his own SALN before filing? OK, he made a mistake in his 2007 SALN, but did he not learn from it and made a similar very basic mistake again, this time in his 2008 SALN? How do you think Gibo will manage a country if he could not correctly manage his very own SALN twice?

[mikmik316]

2007 naging DND Sec. si Gibo. That would explain a big increase from 2005 to 2008. Laki ng kickbacks sa mga contracts e.....

[mrpink]

i wonder why gordon can't even get his nephew, other presidentiable jc delos reyes, who he claimed he's very proud off, support him ..

[4JGtootsie]

i wonder why gordon can't even get his nephew, other presidentiable jc delos reyes, who he claimed he's very proud off, support him ..

Its so simple, Dick was once JC delos Reyes but he fought and disprove his detractors. If he would do what was done to him then he is no better person.

[JackFlash]

Sayang si Gordon. Well meaning, track record, bright. Except that his ego gets in the way. Unsolicited advice for him:

1. Pay more attention to research - especially the ones where people give reasons why they won't vote for you. Instead of ignoring - as you like to claim - do something about it. Like retool your communications and pronouncements accordingly.

2. Try a little humility. When you say "Been there, done that...", it sounds like you won't learn anything new anymore. Parang ang tigas naman ng ulo mo. Even great leaders learned new things in the course of their public service.

3. Try a little empathy. When the poor say, "Gusto namin ng kandidatong tutulong sa amin", don't reply with "Those who don't work, don't get to eat. Bawal ang tamad." Nakaka-insulto sa mga totoong naghahanap ng trabaho pero wala namang makita. Tuloy, parang napaka-insensitive ng dating at hindi nakakintindi ng dinadaanan ng naghihirap sa buhay.

4. Enough of Olongapo and Subic. Masyadong maliliit na lugar ang mga yan kung ikumpara sa buong bayan. Sure, the principles are the same but you can't apply everything in its entirety. It's like saying, "Nakaayos ako ng Vios, ergo kaya ko rin ang barko."

[mikmik316]

Sayang si Gordon. Well meaning, track record, bright. Except that his ego gets in the way. Unsolicited advice for him:

1. Pay more attention to research - especially the ones where people give reasons why they won't vote for you. Instead of ignoring - as you like to claim - do something about it. Like retool your communications and pronouncements accordingly.

2. Try a little humility. When you say "Been there, done that...", it sounds like you won't learn anything new anymore. Parang ang tigas naman ng ulo mo. Even great leaders learned new things in the course of their public service.

3. Try a little empathy. When the poor say, "Gusto namin ng kandidatong tutulong sa amin", don't reply with "Those who don't work, don't get to eat. Bawal ang tamad." Nakaka-insulto sa mga totoong naghahanap ng trabaho pero wala namang makita. Tuloy, parang napaka-insensitive ng dating at hindi nakakintindi ng dinadaanan ng naghihirap sa buhay.

4. Enough of Olongapo and Subic. Masyadong maliliit na lugar ang mga yan kung ikumpara sa buong bayan. Sure, the principles are the same but you can't apply everything in its entirety. It's like saying, "Nakaayos ako ng Vios, ergo kaya ko rin ang barko."

Unsolicited talaga!

Ok na sa amin image ni Gordon na may political will at direct to the point.

[4JGtootsie]

We respect Jackflash's perspective.

Just have some inputs on why he is not doing it.

1. Pay more attention to research - especially the ones where people give reasons why they won't vote for you. Instead of ignoring - as you like to claim - do something about it. Like retool your communications and pronouncements accordingly.

He will not change to please some people.

2. Try a little humility. When you say "Been there, done that...", it sounds like you won't learn anything new anymore. Parang ang tigas naman ng ulo mo. Even great leaders learned new things in the course of their public service.

Its just someones perception that he is like that. In reality pinagdaanan niya talaga mga mahihirap na task and he succeeded.



3. Try a little empathy. When the poor say, "Gusto namin ng kandidatong tutulong sa amin", don't reply with "Those who don't work, don't get to eat. Bawal ang tamad." Nakaka-insulto sa mga totoong naghahanap ng trabaho pero wala namang makita. Tuloy, parang napaka-insensitive ng dating at hindi nakakintindi ng dinadaanan ng naghihirap sa buhay.

"Think of what you can do for the country and not what your country can do for you"
Bawal ang Tamad mali ba ito?
"Gusto namin ng kandidatong tutulong sa amin"- Give them fish or teach them to fish

4. Enough of Olongapo and Subic. Masyadong maliliit na lugar ang mga yan kung ikumpara sa buong bayan. Sure, the principles are the same but you can't apply everything in its entirety. It's like saying, "Nakaayos ako ng Vios, ergo kaya ko rin ang barko."

Naayos niya Vios na total wreck, blowby at lubog sa tubig at lahar na walang casa, pera at trabaho sa tulong ng mga kapit bahay na lubog, gutom, ubos lahat din tapos inaasahan mong tutulong ng malaki ay biglang umalis. Its not only fixing car but the situation.

Buti pa yung Barko maayos nila sa Subic, yung toyota wala pang casa doon at that time.

Honestly, confident si Gordon kasi naranasan niya mahihirap na task.
Most of the candidates had simpler problems.

Peace Jackflash and Godbless!

[CVT]

But how is his affiliation with the palace?

9303:grin2:

[4JGtootsie]

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But how is his affiliation with the palace?

I think, hindi naman bad because si Gibo and candidate nila.
He knows being close will be unwise, blaming GMA stupid
Hindi niya naman tinitira like Noynoy, Si Noynoy naman kung kelan election lang niya kaausapin ang mga pinsan niya about Luisita. What does this say?
Takot ako sa sinasabi ni Noy, No new taxes, Luisita distribution, Stopping corruption. His chewing more than he can swallow just to be elected.

[JackFlash]

We respect Jackflash's perspective.

Just have some inputs on why he is not doing it.

1. He will not change to please some people.

2. Its just someones perception that he is like that. In reality pinagdaanan niya talaga mga mahihirap na task and he succeeded.

3. "Think of what you can do for the country and not what your country can do for you"
Bawal ang Tamad mali ba ito?
"Gusto namin ng kandidatong tutulong sa amin"- Give them fish or teach them to fish

4. Buti pa yung Barko maayos nila sa Subic, yung toyota wala pang casa doon at that time.

Honestly, confident si Gordon kasi naranasan niya mahihirap na task.
Most of the candidates had simpler problems.

Peace Jackflash and Godbless!

Peace to you too, dude. But here are some reactions based on your comments above (I edited para di na humaba):
1. I did not say change to please some people. I said retool communications and messaging to address the ones who say they won't vote for him. He has to find out the reasons and address those. Any good leader would do that. It's called consensus or consultation. It's not being populist.

2. Perception: alas, in the business of politics, perception is reality. Nasa sa kanya na yan kung paano niya i-manage ang perception ng tao. Key here is "managing perception".

3. The operative word is "empathy". The ability to put yourself in the shoes of others to know what they feel. Nothing wrong w/ bawal ang tamad, etc., but if you say that or "magtrabaho ka" to someone who has been slaving away job hunting but can't find any, then you have lost touch w/ the very person you seek to serve. If it's true that he doesn't believe in surveys then he probably doesn't believe that Filipinos' self-rating on poverty, hunger and joblessness is at an all-time high, kasi sa survey rin lumabas yan. Sorry, but in the last news report where he proclaimed "Been there, done that", he did not say anything about how he intends to "teach people how to fish."

4. The analogy is this: Vios is to Subic, as barko or ship of state is to entire Philippines.

Good exchanging views w/ you bro. God bless you too.

[Tailhook]

Im from Subic, Gordon can lead just like other trapos. x x x
At sabi badingerzi daw si "Dick".

backreading ako, tapos nakita ko to. natawa ako bigla

[4JGtootsie]

Peace to you too, dude. But here are some reactions based on your comments above (I edited para di na humaba):
1. I did not say change to please some people. I said retool communications and messaging to address the ones who say they won't vote for him. He has to find out the reasons and address those. Any good leader would do that. It's called consensus or consultation. It's not being populist.

2. Perception: alas, in the business of politics, perception is reality. Nasa sa kanya na yan kung paano niya i-manage ang perception ng tao. Key here is "managing perception".

3. The operative word is "empathy". The ability to put yourself in the shoes of others to know what they feel. Nothing wrong w/ bawal ang tamad, etc., but if you say that or "magtrabaho ka" to someone who has been slaving away job hunting but can't find any, then you have lost touch w/ the very person you seek to serve. If it's true that he doesn't believe in surveys then he probably doesn't believe that Filipinos' self-rating on poverty, hunger and joblessness is at an all-time high, kasi sa survey rin lumabas yan. Sorry, but in the last news report where he proclaimed "Been there, done that", he did not say anything about how he intends to "teach people how to fish."

4. The analogy is this: Vios is to Subic, as barko or ship of state is to entire Philippines.

Good exchanging views w/ you bro. God bless you too.

1. If he listens to all the negative opinions, and makes changes then he might loose his support to others that wants him the way he is.
2. That is the problem with politics its based on perception not performance.
3. Help first those who help themselves to discourage beggars and those that pretend to be helpless.
4. I got the Anology. To explain more no presidential candidate had the same problem as Gordon in his city or district ever. Villar in LP? Noynoy in Tarlac? Gibo in his district or DND, Erap in SJ. and I can go on.

[Jakk]

Mga kasama ilang election na ba and dumaan dito sa atin pero laging may pagsisisi tayong naririnig bakit sila nahalal eh di naman sila nakakatulong para umunlad ang ating bayan. Bakit ba ang mga walang kwentang politiko ang nananalo at indi yong talagang magtratrabaho para mabangon tayo sa hirap, sa congress laging pinagtatalunan ang mga away nila hindi nila pagisipan kung paano tayo uunlad at gumawa ng programa para tayo makbangon sa hirap.Sino ba ang bomoto sa kanila? Sa aking palagay dahil sa mas nakararami ang mga botante madaling bayaran at aliwin ng ng mga politiko sa kanilang mga pangako, eh kung di po kaya natin sila payagang bomoto at ang mga nagbabayad lang ng tax ang boboto siguro lalabas ang totoo at karapat dapat na manongkulan sa atin bayan.Karamihan sa mga kandidato eh nag sasabi na para sila sa mahirap eh yong mga nagbabayad po kaya ng tax meron din kaya lugar para sa mga programa nila? Eto po ay aking mga pananaw lamang maraming salamat po uli!

[hein]

Gordon in his city or district ever. Villar in LP? Noynoy in Tarlac? Gibo in his district or DND, Erap in SJ. and I can go on.

Gordon has shown 1st WORLD Singapore style management in Olongapo. The rest are Pinoy Style Trapo management.

[4JGtootsie]

Originally Posted by lugarai
Im from Subic, Gordon can lead just like other trapos. x x x
At sabi badingerzi daw si "Dick".

backreading ako, tapos nakita ko to. natawa ako bigla

This happens.
His first and last.
I think hindi niya kaya panindigan at patunayan ang sinabi niya. Nakakaawa!

Sir lugarai JOIN and prove what you said. REMEMBER what SGT TAGA said.