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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Will never happen. Sara and BBM will be the nest leaders.


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    BBM has a lousy campaign manager. Lalamunin lang ito ng buhay ni du30 sa vp race. Instead of historical "revisionism", why not focus their campaign narrative on "redemption"? bbm should've acknowledged the bad effects of martial law, apologize to victims, pledge to return the plundered wealth, and tigilan ang pagpupumilit na nakabuti sa philippines ang termino ng erpats niya. Nagmumukha lang tuloy silang obobs ng mga supporters niya. Solid north and apologists are brainwashed and blind horses anyway so they would still support him even if bbm's campaign risks to alienate them with their redemption narrative. Ang kailangan niya eh magbago isip ng mga anti macoy, remember filipinos are forgiving and attracted to underdogs/turn-around stories sure win sana siya kung ganito ginawa nila.

    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    Exactly my thoughts! I would imagine Isko giving Digong shot as VP, kaya he would then hatch a plan to have him killed.
    I just hope that isko wouldn't suddenly turn to being a chinese lapdog too when he becomes president. Xi Jinping is like anne curtis nowadays "i can buy you, your asean neighbors, and this whole continent"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Hindi kaya sinadya ni isko na kumuha ng sure na talo na vp to give way to digong. Charot lang. [emoji111]️

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    Spot on.

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    Bro gising na, tanghali na!

    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    bbm should've acknowledged the bad effects of martial law, apologize to victims, pledge to return the plundered wealth, and tigilan ang pagpupumilit na nakabuti sa philippines ang termino ng erpats niya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Exactly. The true opposition.

    To Trillanes' point, kung dalawa lang ang candidates, one is admin and one is opposition. Supposed the opposition candidate is Leni, anong guarantee na yung voter ni Pacquiao si Leni ang iboboto kung hindi na tatakbo si Pacquiao. If you're choosing Pacquiao over Leni malamang niyan duterte yan kung hindi tatakbo si Pacquiao. Having these candidates is an advantage to the true opposition candidate kasi nagkakaroon ng ibang option yung mga ganung type of voters.

    Hindi porque running against the admin, "opposition" na. Oo by technical definition lang. But suppose there's Bong Go-Digong then Sara-BBM. Mahahati ba ang opposition because of this, of course not. Sila sila ang mag aagawan ng boto. Same logic applies kay MP, Gordon, Lacson. A true opposition voter will not fall for these trapo moves if a viable candidate is running, example Leni.

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    Wag ka maniwala sa paikot ikot na salita nila DU30 na dalawa sila tatakbo na parang 2 different administration bets running. after the filing of candidacy there will be only one true candidate na anointed ni DU30.
    Of course pwede me hidden agenda yung iba na supposedly "secret candidate", Think Villar as Supposedly PGMA secret candidate in the 2010 election or Grace Poe as Pnoys secret candidate in the 2016 election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    BBM has a lousy campaign manager. Lalamunin lang ito ng buhay ni du30 sa vp race. Instead of historical "revisionism", why not focus their campaign narrative on "redemption"? bbm should've acknowledged the bad effects of martial law, apologize to victims, pledge to return the plundered wealth, and tigilan ang pagpupumilit na nakabuti sa philippines ang termino ng erpats niya. Nagmumukha lang tuloy silang obobs ng mga supporters niya. Solid north and apologists are brainwashed and blind horses anyway so they would still support him even if bbm's campaign risks to alienate them with their redemption narrative. Ang kailangan niya eh magbago isip ng mga anti macoy, remember filipinos are forgiving and attracted to underdogs/turn-around stories sure win sana siya kung ganito ginawa nila.



    I just hope that isko wouldn't suddenly turn to being a chinese lapdog too when he becomes president. Xi Jinping is like anne curtis nowadays "i can buy you, your asean neighbors, and this whole continent"
    BBM et al in the Marcos clan would never do that. They'd rather spend their money (stolen naman eh) on promoting their version of history and covering up their image... cheaper too rather than paying off their victims. They'd been doing that since 2011 with conspiratorial and salacious videos of Luna, Aguinaldo, Cojuanco & Aquino clans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Wag ka maniwala sa paikot ikot na salita nila DU30 na dalawa sila tatakbo na parang 2 different administration bets running. after the filing of candidacy there will be only one true candidate na anointed ni DU30.
    Of course pwede me hidden agenda yung iba na supposedly "secret candidate", Think Villar as Supposedly PGMA secret candidate in the 2010 election or Grace Poe as Pnoys secret candidate in the 2016 election.
    Lol inexample ko lang ang mga du30 para ipaliwanag sayo that they have the same effect as MP, Lacson, and Gordon. Oo running against the admin pero parang 2nd duterte lang yan. A true opposition hindi boboto sa mga yan kung may standard bearer sila.

    Si Trillanes na nga nagsabi, meron pa bang mas opposition diyan. Let them all run. He thinks it's an advantage ma magtakbuhan yang mga yan and not a threat.

    Seryoso ba yang PNoy and Grace Poe or example lang? Remember, Mar Roxas tried to talk to her a few days before the election but she didn't entertain it. Desperado na LP nun, eh kung hawak pala ni PNoy si GP eh di sana naggive way siya for Mar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    Para yan sa mga dilawan ng mabawasan stress nila

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Lol inexample ko lang ang mga du30 para ipaliwanag sayo that they have the same effect as MP, Lacson, and Gordon. Oo running against the admin pero parang 2nd duterte lang yan. A true opposition hindi boboto sa mga yan kung may standard bearer sila.


    Seryoso ba yang PNoy and Grace Poe or example lang? Remember, Mar Roxas tried to talk to her a few days before the election but she didn't entertain it. Desperado na LP nun, eh kung hawak pala ni PNoy si GP eh di sana naggive way siya for Mar.

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    Ganun nga. I understand what your saying na your thinking that even if others supposedly opposition wins , the same old faces can be seen in gov't doing the same old dirty work. Problem is that a lot of people/voters don't want to see the same faces of the LP(Liberal Party) back in power. That is why you see a different type of true opposition coming out like 1Sambayan, etc. Even if most of them are former LP partymates, they are distancing themselves from the LP to attract more of the voter even those who dislike the LP.

    Can't remember the exact reason why Grace Poe(GP) wouldn't slide into VP in the last 2016 election, i recall GP was topping the surveys and Mar was in the middle pack lagging, this was before the black propaganda attacks. Why would Grace Poe slide down to Vice Pres candidate when she is topping the Presidential candidate surveys? During that time she had a better chance of winning than Mar. But in the end it worked wonders for the LP since Leni was able to win the VP race.

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    unless we are in on the planning,
    politics can be very strange and confusing...

    i suspect,
    a lot of horses are being traded as we speak.
    things will probably become clearer, come nearing election day.

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    Pacquiao-isko in the end.


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    Here's what I think and this will be my last about this.

    Ang true opposition ni Duterte si Leni, LP, Trillanes, Chel Diokno, Magdalo, Makabayan Bloc etc. Kung ayaw ng isang tao sa LP, meaning ayaw din niya kay Leni, Hontiveros, Bam, Kiko, Drilon, de Lima, LP lahat yan eh. Kung ayaw niya sa LP, opposition ba talaga ang stand niya?

    Si Gordon, Pacquiao, Isko, isn't it convenient na ngayon all of a sudden sabay sabay sila kaaway ni Duterte. So ngayon may concept na madami kaaway si duterte kelangan nila mag unite.

    Kung iboboto ng isang tao si Pacquiao over let's say Leni, if it's just between Leni and Digong this voter will most likely lean Digong kasi may choice ka na mag Leni nag Pacquiao ka pa. Yan yung point ni Trillanes. Pero yung true opposition voter, kahit sino pa tumakbo, steady yan basta may bearer sila. Gordon, Pacquiao, Lacson is clearly not theirs.

    Ang question naman talaga kung may volume pa tong mga ito or puro masa voter at talagang Bong Go Sara BBM na uwi natin eh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Here's what I think and this will be my last about this.

    Ang true opposition ni Duterte si Leni, LP, Trillanes, Chel Diokno, Magdalo, Makabayan Bloc etc. Kung ayaw ng isang tao sa LP, meaning ayaw din niya kay Leni, Hontiveros, Bam, Kiko, Drilon, de Lima, LP lahat yan eh. Kung ayaw niya sa LP, opposition ba talaga ang stand niya?

    Si Gordon, Pacquiao, Isko, isn't it convenient na ngayon all of a sudden sabay sabay sila kaaway ni Duterte. So ngayon may concept na madami kaaway si duterte kelangan nila mag unite.

    Kung iboboto ng isang tao si Pacquiao over let's say Leni, if it's just between Leni and Digong this voter will most likely lean Digong kasi may choice ka na mag Leni nag Pacquiao ka pa. Yan yung point ni Trillanes. Pero yung true opposition voter, kahit sino pa tumakbo, steady yan basta may bearer sila. Gordon, Pacquiao, Lacson is clearly not theirs.

    Ang question naman talaga kung may volume pa tong mga ito or puro masa voter at talagang Bong Go Sara BBM na uwi natin eh.


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    None of the true opposition candidates you mentioned have a good chance of winning against Sara/Packy.

    I would gladly vote for then but the sad reality is that people from our demographic are far too few to make an impact to the election results.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    None of the true opposition candidates you mentioned have a good chance of winning against Sara/Packy.

    I would gladly vote for then but the sad reality is that people from our demographic are far too few to make an impact to the election results.


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    i remember an officemate.
    "sinong binoto mo?"
    "sir, gusto ko sana si ..., but alam kong hindi siya mananalo. so binoto ko na lang yung siguradong mananalo."
    i was speechless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i remember an officemate.
    "sinong binoto mo?"
    "sir, gusto ko sana si ..., but alam kong hindi siya mananalo. so binoto ko na lang yung siguradong mananalo."
    i was speechless.
    I don't get that logic either. Its not like boxing or any sport where the spectator has no control over the outcome. No matter how hard you shout Pacman isn't going to punch any stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Tapos kumuha pa ng sure talo na VP. May something talaga dito sa ginagawa ni Isko.

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    As shadow said, pera lang talaga habol ni ishko. There is no logic at all to get willy ong as VP. I think pakawala yan ni digong to give a semblance of oppostion. Same is true for Lacson and Pacquiao. Moro-moro lang lahat para daw democratic ang election process natin. screenshot_20210923-082248_facebook.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Hahahaha 2022 election will prolly be the most legendary philippine presidential election in history if quiboloy joins the party. No need for clowns and comedy bars just watch how the epic presidential election unfolds.

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    Eto ang iboboto ko screenshot_20210923-091011_facebook.jpg

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    Kaya hinde mananalo itong si Leni eh. Dami arte sa decision, ayaw pa sabihin kung tatakbo or hinde. Parang hinde kailangan ng preparations yun election eh. Kalokohan hinde pa alam kuno, pa effect lang yan, kung ayaw mo sabihin bakit pa pa patagalin.

    Sinasabi dahil titira in pag maaga nag announce eh anong pa kaiba ng mga aattcks sa kanyan for the last 5.5 years?


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