2022 Presidential Elections

[Flipo]

No chance Leni will win


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Eh di kung sino nga sa opposition candidate ang malaki ang chance na manalo yun ang suportahan nilang lahat if they have a noble heart for the sake of our nation.

[Little Missy]

That's traditional Politics done by Politicians. Surprised that they now call it Enablers. hahah
Those things have been Happening before any of us are born and will still happen when we are gone.

Each candidate or Party always has its core voters whether it be Dutertards, Dilawan, Solid North, Muslim South, Visayas coalition, etc.
Which is why those seeking the Pres candidacy would pick a VP that would include solid core voters with it, increasing his/her chance to win an election. That is why a few peoples eyebrows shot up when Willie Ong was announced as VP bet. I am guessing his core voters are those internet savy people who follow his shows.

Kaya nga eh. Yung opposition voter, ayaw kay duterte, ayaw na sa admin na to, boboto sa trapo at sa mga kakampi ni duterte nung simula? So I doubt na mahahati nila ang totoong opposition voter. Ang boboto sa mga yan mga core voters nila or yung kahit sino basta hindi dilawan.

Isko is another story. Ayoko sa kanya pero he is undeniably popular. He really is like Grace Poe, not the best bet but popular enough para makakuha ng votes that can change the result. Sinilip ko facebook posts about him, pinutakte ng mga dds-bbm supporters.

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[travajante]

Because LP still had momentum in 2016. Mar still had 10M votes. Residual equity from those who were happy with the Aquino administration.

Today, LP is a sunken ship. I fully agree that Leni is the best bet for President. But Presidential elections are a numbers/masa game. Doesn’t matter what the few, educated people think.

You need to tap into the middle and lower classes to win.


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8/10 & rising? We're doomed.

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[ratboy]

Isko Moreno and Digong Duterte are going to be the next pres-vp of the Philippines. Isko will be the next ramon magsaysay after digong sends order to assassinate him and reclaim the iron throne.

[Little Missy]

Hindi kaya sinadya ni isko na kumuha ng sure na talo na vp to give way to digong. Charot lang. [emoji111]️

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[ale828]

Kaya nga eh. Yung opposition voter, ayaw kay duterte, ayaw na sa admin na to, boboto sa trapo at sa mga kakampi ni duterte nung simula? So I doubt na mahahati nila ang totoong opposition voter. Ang boboto sa mga yan mga core voters nila or yung kahit sino basta hindi dilawan.

Isko is another story. Ayoko sa kanya pero he is undeniably popular. Sinilip ko facebook posts about him, pinutakte ng mga dds-bbm supporters.

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Anyone who doesn't vote for the Administration bet is by definition an Opposition. Since we are not in a 2 party system, there are several candidates seeking the Opposition tag and thus a lot will be labelled as Opposition.
The True Opposition is the core voters of that particular opposition candidate it will very hard talaga to convince the core voters to change sides.
But core votes alone don't win elections, you need the so called swing/undecided votes.
That is why these traditional politicians swing sides during election to garner those undecided votes.

[Little Missy]

Anyone who doesn't vote for the Administration bet is by definition an Opposition. Since we are not in a 2 party system, there are several candidates seeking the Opposition tag and thus a lot will be labelled as Opposition.
The True Opposition is the core voters of that particular opposition candidate it will very hard talaga to convince the core voters to change sides.
But core votes alone don't win elections, you need the so called swing/undecided votes.
That is why these traditional politicians swing sides during election to garner those undecided votes.

Sabi mo kasi sa unang post mo, even if half of the country vote opposition, dahil 6 yung candidate ng opposition paghahatian nila yung half na yun. Which I don't think so. It doesn't make sense na ayaw mo na sa duterte admin tapos you'll vote for Lacson, MP, Gordon. Yes they will have voters. But not the core opposition.

Isko I think is different kasi parang Grace Poe siya.

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[_Cathy_]

These are currently the opposition candidates for president:
-Lacson
-Paquiao
-Isko
-Gordon(?)
-Trillanes(!)
-Leni

Can tsikoteers please help me out kasi I don't follow politics that much. Si Trillanes right from the start he was anti admin na diba?

Pacquiao and Isko used to be pro admin?

How about Lacson and Gordon? If Leni doesn't run, I'm thinking between Isko and Gordon



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[shadow]

Isko Moreno and Digong Duterte are going to be the next pres-vp of the Philippines. Isko will be the next ramon magsaysay after digong sends order to assassinate him and reclaim the iron throne.

Will never happen. Sara and BBM will be the nest leaders.


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[_Cathy_]

Saan na lang pupulutin Pilipinas?

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[thearsenal1205]

Can tsikoteers please help me out kasi I don't follow politics that much. Si Trillanes right from the start he was anti admin na diba?

Pacquiao and Isko used to be pro admin?

How about Lacson and Gordon? If Leni doesn't run, I'm thinking between Isko and Gordon



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Gordon probably for me..

[Little Missy]

Can tsikoteers please help me out kasi I don't follow politics that much. Si Trillanes right from the start he was anti admin na diba?

Pacquiao and Isko used to be pro admin?

How about Lacson and Gordon? If Leni doesn't run, I'm thinking between Isko and Gordon



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Remember the time na sobrang outnumbered ng mga opposition senators, yan si Gordon and Pacquiao are on the other side. Lacson ata is neutral pero yoko kasi din ng past history niya sa politics during the Erap days (Kuratong Baleleng, Dacer case).

If I'm a Sanders supporter (Leni), Isko might be my Joe Biden. Not a fan pero basta may chance against Sara /BBM. Jusko mahabagin.

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[bugsmobile]

Isko Moreno and Digong Duterte are going to be the next pres-vp of the Philippines. Isko will be the next ramon magsaysay after digong sends order to assassinate him and reclaim the iron throne.

Exactly my thoughts! I would imagine Isko giving Digong shot as VP, kaya he would then hatch a plan to have him killed.

[babkalakal]

Matakot sila kay sara and BBM. Sure win itong dalawa, ang pwedeng may laban lang diyan is mag slide down to VP si Isko kay Manny.


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my cousin is actually pro-bongbong. she is hoping that there will be a switch before election time. wherein bbm will run for pres. and sara for vp

[ale828]

Sabi mo kasi sa unang post mo, even if half of the country vote opposition, dahil 6 yung candidate ng opposition paghahatian nila yung half na yun. Which I don't think so. It doesn't make sense na ayaw mo na sa duterte admin tapos you'll vote for Lacson, MP, Gordon. Yes they will have voters. But not the core opposition.

Isko I think is different kasi parang Grace Poe siya.

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True with the core voters. If you are a LP member you most likely will vote straight LP or pure Opposition.
Why can't people who don't like du30 vote for Lacson, MP or Gordon? because they used to be friends with DU30? Hindi ba sila pwede matauhan and mabuksan ang mata sa mali ng Administration. Isko is also neutral to DU30 and only started biting back when election nears.
Even some Liberal Party politicians used to be cozy with GMA and Erap. Turning tails after disagreements.
That is Politics. its not pure Black and White. a lot of grey areas.

Can tsikoteers please help me out kasi I don't follow politics that much. Si Trillanes right from the start he was anti admin na diba?

Pacquiao and Isko used to be pro admin?

How about Lacson and Gordon? If Leni doesn't run, I'm thinking between Isko and Gordon

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In reality DU30 should only anoint one presidential candidate, which will be considered the administration bet for president. every other candidate is considered an Opposition even if he used to be cozy with the Admin before.
Pick one that you find has a good track record, knows how to implement changes well, and has a good platform and a good plan for the phil in the future.

[jut703]

Actually i have tons of friends who regret voting for duts.
Almost all will vote for Leni next year.
Theyre voting for the candidate and not due to the political party.
Also, her vp might not be LP din.


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I’m sure your friends are part of SEC ABC. Look at the pyramid Travs posted above, you’ll see how small that segment is compared to the rest of the voting population


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[Little Missy]

True with the core voters. If you are a LP member you most likely will vote straight LP or pure Opposition.
Why can't people who don't like du30 vote for Lacson, MP or Gordon? because they used to be friends with DU30? Hindi ba sila pwede matauhan and mabuksan ang mata sa mali ng Administration. Isko is also neutral to DU30 and only started biting back when election nears.
Even some Liberal Party politicians used to be cozy with GMA and Erap. Turning tails after disagreements.
That is Politics. its not pure Black and White. a lot of grey areas.

Exactly. The true opposition.

To Trillanes' point, kung dalawa lang ang candidates, one is admin and one is opposition. Supposed the opposition candidate is Leni, anong guarantee na yung voter ni Pacquiao si Leni ang iboboto kung hindi na tatakbo si Pacquiao. If you're choosing Pacquiao over Leni malamang niyan duterte yan kung hindi tatakbo si Pacquiao. Having these candidates is an advantage to the true opposition candidate kasi nagkakaroon ng ibang option yung mga ganung type of voters.

Hindi porque running against the admin, "opposition" na. Oo by technical definition lang. But suppose there's Bong Go-Digong then Sara-BBM. Mahahati ba ang opposition because of this, of course not. Sila sila ang mag aagawan ng boto. Same logic applies kay MP, Gordon, Lacson. A true opposition voter will not fall for these trapo moves if a viable candidate is running, example Leni.

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[shadow]

Alisin na ninyo si Leni sa laban, will never win.

Sa 3 ngayon nag announced Lacson, Isko and Manny. Sino diyan makakatalo kay sara? [emoji23]

Gumagawa lang ng pera itong si Scott. [emoji23]

Sino makakatalo sa sara-bbm? Solid north and solid south.

If Scott will get a ₱10B funding hinde na rin niya ubusin yan he'll spend let's say ₱5B and keep the rest. Bakit niya ubusin yun pera kung wala naman siyang chance manalo kay sara?

Pahinga ng 3 years and enjoy the loot then run for mayor again.

Kung gusto talaga niya mag serve, the right thing to do is run for VP diyan malaki chance manalo. In a 3 way fight sa mga nag announce Isko, sotto and dutiti. Isko will be the runaway winner. Kaso gumagawa ng pera eh

Pacquiao hinde na aatras yan. Win or lose all in na yan anyway madami na siya pera.

So ang may chance na dumikit sa sara-bbm is MP-isko tandem lang. Wala ng iba.


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[glenn_duke]

my cousin is actually pro-bongbong. she is hoping that there will be a switch before election time. wherein bbm will run for pres. and sara for vp

Sinabi naman ni sarah iyan, isang duterte lang tatakbo. Kaya kino convince c digong not to run.

[Little Missy]

Tapos kumuha pa ng sure talo na VP. May something talaga dito sa ginagawa ni Isko.

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