Nissan Frontier Navara [continued]

[fierari]

finally ordered my light duty spring and struts for my lift in CND :D

OLD MAN EMU COILS SPRINGS 2607 2 per case 1 x $158.57
OLD MAN EMU NITROCHARGER SPORT STRUTS (90003) 2 x $145.91

magkano ba ito sa atin?

[lawrence_acc]

sir, ilang inch yung result nyang upgrade mo sa shock and struts?

[cydepx44]

finally ordered my light duty spring and struts for my lift in CND :D

OLD MAN EMU COILS SPRINGS 2607 2 per case 1 x $158.57
OLD MAN EMU NITROCHARGER SPORT STRUTS (90003) 2 x $145.91

magkano ba ito sa atin?

mahal sa mga dealer dito. inaabot 30k yung set of 4 (2 shocks / 2 struts). sa US din maganda bumili, around 22k-25k landed sa pinas

[Wh1stl3r]

*fierari
Yup super cheap na yan, shocks dito mas mahal pa sa kuha mo sa struts.

*12vdc
Nice work bro. So fake pala lahat ng binebenta nung dealer na yun? Even the ones that have country of origin? Re: dealers sa Banawe you mentioned nabentahan na rin nila ako ng fake medyo wala na rin akong tiwala sa kanila hehe.

[12vdc]

[SIZE=2]Yup super cheap na yan, shocks dito mas mahal pa sa kuha mo sa struts.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Mura sa 199orh pero hindi rin kasi order din nila abroad..Better buy online then ipakabit sa shop.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]*12vdc[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Nice work bro. So fake pala lahat ng binebenta nung dealer na yun? Even the ones that have country of origin?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Not all fake pero they mix it then may old stock pa na kinalawang, and some have colapsed spring umaalog ang element , kaya ayaw kona rin ng FG or baka sa US na lang ako bumilii. [/SIZE]


[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]This FG(right) is made in Turkey but upon opening, the quality is not convincing.[/SIZE][/SIZE]

[SIZE=2][/SIZE]

[SIZE=2][SIZE=2]Somehow im more inclined using the Baldwin, they are solid filters thou sometimes hindi ganoon ka kapal ang canister. What makes me happy with Volmax is hindi pa ako nakakuha ng fake.. [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Baldwin uses Parker Anti-drainback valve.. Have different styles and materials for the bypass-valve. Media and construction is neatly packed. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2](LF3400 on the left is the direct cross for our OEM Lube filtre)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Filtre: no of pleats/pleat depth(cm) /element height / bypass valve/ADBV/weight (grams)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]LF3400: 81 / 1.8 / 6 / 9.43 PSi Nitrile rubber / yes / 472[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]B233: 51 / 2 / 8 / 8 PSi Nitrile-front type / yes-Parker / 427[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]B229: 57 / 1.8 / 8 / 20 PSi metal / yes-Parker / 435[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]If you will sum up for the the surface area of media, LF3400 has larger area and that explains the weight.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]

Re: dealers sa Banawe you mentioned nabentahan na rin nila ako ng fake medyo wala na rin akong tiwala sa kanila hehe.

Yup thats true, karamihan replacement ang naka display nila. Pero sila lang ang merong almost complete OEM parts for Nissan and OEM shows up upon request.. hehe.. Bihira kasi bumenta yung orig, mahal kasi kaya kung makabili ka man old stock na.[/SIZE][/SIZE]

[dvldoc]

That Fleetguard FF5116 is a fake, First thing the pleated media is white, only the microglass is that color second, The Turkey plant does not come online until 2012. It's not even built yet.
Those Chinese kill me with there sure level of counterfeits they are using a country of origin in which the plant is not even been built yet.

http://www.fleetguard.com/pdfs/produ...03-2011-GB.pdf
Cummins to build first manufacturing site in Turkey — Luxury Yacht Charter & Superyacht News

I think I would just scratch that place off of my list of places to buy filters they have way to many fakes. They obviously have no kind of quality control. I would at least stay away from anything not made in USA from that place..

Thanks for all the filter cuts though, good to see someone spend some of their own money to help people out.

Baldwin are defiently solid as are most made in USA Fleetguards (non fakes) That's also the Baldwin for my Elgrand How much are those going for?

[Wh1stl3r]

*12vdc
Rats! Medyo nagduda na rin ako nung may nakasabay akong nagpapasadyang magpafabricate ng filter. Should've seen that as a red flag. Dami ko pa namang nabili. Tsk!

*dvldoc
Funny thing is, they have this sign that says "Beware of fake Fleetguards being sold in <place x, y>". Cummins should really review their being an "Authorized dealer" status.

[Wh1stl3r]

While we're on the topic of shocks and struts, I thought I might post up some info about shock absorber construction types.

KYB America LLC Shocks & Struts | Technical Information | Monotube vs Twin-Tube

Monotube vs Twin-Tube

All vehicles are equipped with some form of suspension damping control. They may use hydraulic fluid, air, gas or be electrically controlled. The two most widely used internal designs are twin-tube and monotube.
The twin tube design is the most common one in use on cars, light trucks, SUV’s and vans. It’s a cost effective unit that provides excellent handling & control characteristics for most driving conditions. The monotube design offers additional performance and can have a more aggressive ride.

A twin-tube shock or strut has two cylinders:

The inner, or working cylinder, is where the piston and shaft move up and down. The outer cylinder serves as a reservoir for the hydraulic fluid. There are fluid valves in the piston and in the stationary base valve. The base valve controls fluid flow between both cylinders and provides some of the damping force. The valves in the piston control most of the damping. The term Gas Shock usually refers to the same twin-tube design, but with one improvement. Low pressure Nitrogen gas is added to replace any oxygen air. The effect lessens aeration and performance fade.

The monotube design has a single cylinder:

The cylinder is divided into sections: A fluid area and a gas chamber. The piston and shaft move in the fluid portion. It uses a single fluid valve assembly in the piston. The diameter of the single working cylinder and piston valve is larger than in a twin tube even though the outside dimensions of each may the same. There is no need for an air or gas in the fluid area so the valve can operate more responsively and without any aeration or performance fade. The high pressure gas chamber is separated from the fluid area by a floating piston & seal. That provides an expansion area for the excess fluid movement during the compression stroke. On more aggressive movement the floating piston is pushed further into the gas chamber which increases gas pressure quickly and provides additional damping force. Because of its higher performance capabilities, the monotube design is used as original equipment on some vehicles and offered as an upgrade on vehicles that came equipped with the twin tube design.

While valving has more to do with its behavior (performance), construction has more to do with a shock absorber's service life (durability) and resistance to shock fade. Monotubes last much longer than traditional twin tubes because they are a more simple design with less moving parts (seals, springs, etc). They also reduce unsprung weight, being lighter and able to be mounted upside down.

[Ry_Tower]

*12vdc
Rats! Medyo nagduda na rin ako nung may nakasabay akong nagpapasadyang magpafabricate ng filter. Should've seen that as a red flag. Dami ko pa namang nabili. Tsk!

*dvldoc
Funny thing is, they have this sign that says "Beware of fake Fleetguards being sold in <place x, y>". Cummins should really review their being an "Authorized dealer" status.

Bad trip ganyan ah. Kaya ako sa Ace na nagpabili para sure. Alam ko bawal fake dun eh. Madali nga lang maubos purolator.

[12vdc]

That Fleetguard FF5116 is a fake, First thing the pleated media is white, only the microglass is that color second, The Turkey plant does not come online until 2012. It's not even built yet.
Those Chinese kill me with there sure level of counterfeits they are using a country of origin in which the plant is not even been built yet.

http://www.fleetguard.com/pdfs/produ...03-2011-GB.pdf
Cummins to build first manufacturing site in Turkey &mdash; Luxury Yacht Charter & Superyacht News

I think I would just scratch that place off of my list of places to buy filters they have way to many fakes. They obviously have no kind of quality control. I would at least stay away from anything not made in USA from that place..

Thanks for all the filter cuts though, good to see someone spend some of their own money to help people out.

Baldwin are defiently solid as are most made in USA Fleetguards (non fakes) That's also the Baldwin for my Elgrand How much are those going for?

Now im a believer that China is so advanced, they can produce modern filters even if the factory is not yet operational..

B233 P500, B229 P600

[12vdc]

*12vdc
Rats! Medyo nagduda na rin ako nung may nakasabay akong nagpapasadyang magpafabricate ng filter. Should've seen that as a red flag. Dami ko pa namang nabili. Tsk!

*dvldoc
Funny thing is, they have this sign that says "Beware of fake Fleetguards being sold in <place x, y>". Cummins should really review their being an "Authorized dealer" status.

Haha..nakita ko rin yan nakasulat near the door.. Ibig sabihin nun sa kanila ka lang daw bumili ng fake..

Bad trip ganyan ah. Kaya ako sa Ace na nagpabili para sure. Alam ko bawal fake dun eh. Madali nga lang maubos purolator.

May fake din daw na purolator sa ace, sabi lang sa kabila thread? Dapat mabuksan yan para magkaalaman.

[Ry_Tower]

Agnun ba? tsk

Haha..nakita ko rin yan nakasulat near the door.. Ibig sabihin nun sa kanila ka lang daw bumili ng fake..


May fake din daw na purolator sa ace, sabi lang sa kabila thread? Dapat mabuksan yan para magkaalaman.

[fierari]

sir, ilang inch yung result nyang upgrade mo sa shock and struts?

1.5" lang ang lift ng light duty at 2 inches naman daw ang heavy duty pero designed yun para sa arb bumper at winch kaya ang ending 1.5" din lol

ayun ke sir otep 1.5" lang daw talaga ang allowed sa australia higher than that kailangan pa ng certificate.

dahil bihira naman ako mag load di ko muna likutin ang likod para lang level, front rake kasi etong frontier sagwa naka subsob lol

[cwoo13]

please help me with my navara, this happened after a 5k pms at nissan crvi, ive noticed that there is a thud sound after breaking my car , with aircon on and off. i hear a thud sound, has anyone encountered this problem? but everything seems working propoerly, except for that irritating sound when breaking. i seem to hear it in the center part or the hood.

[fierari]

did you mean braking? at any speed? or speed specific? or are you talking about your aircon turning on and off?

[jick.cejoco]

please help me with my navara, this happened after a 5k pms at nissan crvi, ive noticed that there is a thud sound after breaking my car , with aircon on and off. i hear a thud sound, has anyone encountered this problem? but everything seems working propoerly, except for that irritating sound when breaking. i seem to hear it in the center part or the hood.

hehehehe it sure is irritating when your car breaks or is breaking. have your suspension bushings checked for shrinking and hardening if they are still present and check for looseness.

[Wh1stl3r]

please help me with my navara, this happened after a 5k pms at nissan crvi, ive noticed that there is a thud sound after breaking my car , with aircon on and off. i hear a thud sound, has anyone encountered this problem? but everything seems working propoerly, except for that irritating sound when breaking. i seem to hear it in the center part or the hood.

"Braking" naman yata, hindi breaking hehe. CRVI says its the fuel sloshing in the tank when its below 3/4 full. Maybe a lack of baffles in the tank?

[12vdc]

From my understanding, what he means is - after 5k kms and break-in period, he noticed a thud sound when the aircon switches on/off

please help me with my navara, this happened after a 5k pms at nissan crvi, ive noticed that there is a thud sound after breaking my car , with aircon on and off. i hear a thud sound, has anyone encountered this problem? but everything seems working propoerly, except for that irritating sound when breaking. i seem to hear it in the center part or the hood.

If you are referring to the "thud" sound when applying the brake, check the brake linings for loose clips, bolts, or brake parts.

If its coming from the aircon (thud..pssshhhh sound), thats the normal sound of the aircon and you will be used it. By the time you reach the next PMS probably youd barely recognize that sound.

Most common rattle occurence experienced by owners here is the metal-to-metal sound that originates from the hood latch- Simple DIY like insulating with 3m vinyl tape would shut that sound. Also look at the shocks for leaks, busted shocks could cause rattles too..

Welcome and enjoy the forum.

[fierari]

ayus na may solusyon na sa braking, brake in at breaking. posters replied in every possible angle gj

[cwoo13]

oops, sorry, i mean braking. applying the brakes. i hear a thud sound even when the aircon is turned off. tnx for all the replys, il probably send it back to crvi and note all your comments.