New Mitsubishi Montero Sport [ARCHIVED]

[JB20689]

sir only my question, my engine is use to be fully mod but mid this year binalik ko sa stock and i only keep my piggy back sa injectors and commonrail. A stock is much better hindi naman tayo kakarera hehehehhehehe peace to all.

A stock is much better hindi naman tayo kakarera hehehehhehehe peace to all.

certainly true sir!! =) I dont have any plans of modding my SE nor my Strada. Im pretty satisfied with their performance as they perform brilliantly fulfilling the purpose of why I actually bought them.. Yun lng I find the 4m41 a bit rough and thirsty. But nevertheless having them stock is enough for normal use.

Sir im looking at tapping just the ecu to make things simpler. I havent rily get to try tuning a brain of a crdi engine but I guess piggybacking the ecu would suffice. I didnt know we could seperately install a piggyback comp on the common rail? Thanks for that sir!! haha

About the intercooler, thats the reason why I suggested not to use too large intercoolers for our application cause its not appropriate considering how much boost we are only getting from the stock turbo. It would definitely not match kung masyado malaki and will just make things harder to tune. The stock intercooler of a JDM Galant 8G Twin Turbo or any Evolution would do. I think anything bigger than that would more or less lead to pressure drop inside the cooling tank.

About the exhaust system, my deepest apologies sir Im not sure if I got your question right? But I guess you are asking me what would be the material for the pipings? If that so then it would be stainless steel pipes that are already mandrel bent from their manufacturers. Some shops in the metro get these from their respective suppliers and just cut/grind (tig wield it after) them according to the needs of their clients. Nvertheless, the integrity of the inner diameter of the pipings is still intact (I heard we can actually get the raw materials in Bambang or Tayuman) 1 of my cars was done by HP racing and 3 by Brodeth.

About the cone filter, yes Im expecting to see various errors in the intake sensor but pwede ring wala. Not sure. Basta for crdi engines, its better to leave the stock airbox alone (as their design ensures no hot air would be taken in the intake tract) and just upgrade the panel filter.

The reason why im looking forward to having the 4d56hp is because its like having a conservatively chipped 4m41. No need to install anything under the hood. =)

But bka sa next Monty, Strada, and Pajero pa ipasok yun. Haaaaay

[Memphis Raines]

Guys I need your opinion about the immobilizer.

Does having an immobilizer on our units make it 'unstealable'?

Do you think it can be bypassed easily?

I'm alarmed by some unconfirmed news that at least two 3.2 units have been stolen in Cebu City. Two others have been reportedly 'attempted' to be stolen in an open parking area of SM Cebu.

[Memphis Raines]

JB20689 - thank you sir for enlightening us with your profound knowledge on engine modification. I believe Niky has met his match

Sir may I ask, let's just say I could acquire a VGT (Challenger Spec) can this be simply bolted-on to a 4D56 to replace stock?

[dadz]

No problem if you really want to try, use a lightbox engine controller for the commonrail, megafire for your injectors and ecu booster for the ECU(all piggy back) ECU shop throttle booster, manual boost controller, Holex turbo, HKS waste gate valve, evo 3 intercooler with stainless pipe's, cast iron 4-1 headers, a smart guage to monitor the engine system and performance. this is my engine mods before 300+ Hp siya but hayop lumaklak nag deisel and also sobra sa power to a point na i need to change my injectors to a bigger one, since im using it off-road i went back to stock and keep only 1 piggy back and manual boost controller now im only around 200- HP pwede na sa 4L ko 1500 rpm enough to climb steep and roll over some obstacle's. By the way im using 3.2 with V5 ecu software (stock Hp is 165hp plus 25Hp with the commonrail piggy back) planning to upgrade my ECU software to V7 on my next PMS.

[JB20689]

JB20689 - thank you sir for enlightening us with your profound knowledge on engine modification. I believe Niky has met his match

Sir may I ask, let's just say I could acquire a VGT (Challenger Spec) can this be simply bolted-on to a 4D56 to replace stock?

Ay!! hnd nmn po profound... hahaha I just happened to know these things coz its related to our family business po.

Anyhows, I havent inspected the exhaust turbo manifold of our Montys since I didnt really entertain the idea of changing the factory turbocharger of my SE (it would definitely void the warranty of our engines and tranny)

For this I cant really say its gonna be a bolt on affair (bolt on meaning we remove the factory compressor and replace it with the VGT unit without any modifications done on the manifold and on the air intake tube side) However, the worst case scenario would be to fabricate the entire exhaust manifold and the respective air intake tubing needed in order to accomodate the VGT. Also, slapping a new turbo means there is a NEED to modify our fuel mapping, timing, and boost flow with the aid of a piggyback comp. But its nevertheless doable for someone who really wants to go the extra mile of modification

This is gonna be a higher level of mods and I personally do not recommend it for our Montys. The earlier set of mods I have mentioned should be our first step if we want to safely increase the power and torque production of our engines without hastily compromising the 3 year factory warranty (though if the casa finds out what we have done, tangal din yan for sure) hahaha

I have no idea po if the VGT units on the higher spec Pajero abroad is the same as the ones bolted to 4d56hp. Can someone confirm this?

[JB20689]

No problem if you really want to try, use a lightbox engine controller for the commonrail, megafire for your injectors and ecu booster for the ECU(all piggy back) ECU shop throttle booster, manual boost controller, Holex turbo, HKS waste gate valve, evo 3 intercooler with stainless pipe's, cast iron 4-1 headers, a smart guage to monitor the engine system and performance. this is my engine mods before 300+ Hp siya but hayop lumaklak nag deisel and also sobra sa power to a point na i need to change my injectors to a bigger one, since im using it off-road i went back to stock and keep only 1 piggy back and manual boost controller now im only around 200- HP pwede na sa 4L ko 1500 rpm enough to climb steep and roll over some obstacle's. By the way im using 3.2 with V5 ecu software (stock Hp is 165hp plus 25Hp with the commonrail piggy back) planning to upgrade my ECU software to V7 on my next PMS.

wow!! Your mods are really phenomenal for a CRDi engine sir Dadz! Saludo po ako sau! hahaha

Anyways, if I may ask sir? Im curious if the factory fuel pump was able to support the required fuel delivery for your mods? Especially when you upgraded na din the injectors? I assume the factory pumps we have wont be able to support 300hp even 230hp at the crank.. hmmmm... or am I wrong po?

[benchph1]

not necessarily true sir.. I just answered sir Migs question on how to tweak the 4m41 to match the others.. Just laying out the possible options for our members who might consider upgrading their engines in the future. Atleast they have an idea na =)

Honestly, with all the mods I have mentioned, our MS is still incapable of being converted into a sports car so I wont even dare to try it myself. The estimated more or less 200++ hp carrying a 2105 kg car would be lucky to hit 0-100kph as fast as a stock 2.0L diesel sedan with powershift double clutch tranny. It means it still wont be sports car fast.

As for my experience, it doesnt matter how much mods you put in to your automobile or how fast your car has become for that matter. What matter is how we drive our cars. Its all about discipline and proper ethics on the road.

Modding an suv or a pick up truck doesnt automatically mean a person is a speedfreak. There is also a possibility that they need the extra power when going off road while carrying a full load. Or more pulling prowess when taking steep mountain hills like Baguio in full load. It would be so much better if we know our engines do possess more power and torque on tap even if you dont need to use it often because when the need arises the extra ponys are there to back us up. =)

We just need to be responsible enough to know when really is the right time to use the extra power. Because if we use it rightfully, I firmly believe it would aid more to our safety and convinience rather than to a potential accident.

I have to agree with you on this one. Modding our rides is an expression of ourselves, our desire to "personalize" our cars. Whether its a truck, car or a van.

about the 4m41 upgrade, the link ive posted one page back contains info about the existence of a 4m41 equipped with VGT. but unfortunately it's only available in japan.

i think just putting in the VGT wouldn't do. (goodluck finding one here) i believe there is a need to change the ECU.

[kanuto123]

hello pipol :D long time no post .... i will be getting my bodykit from a-toy sana matapos etong project early baka abutin ng christmas :D ..

[silverend]

I have to agree with you on this one. Modding our rides is an expression of ourselves, our desire to "personalize" our cars. Whether its a truck, car or a van.

about the 4m41 upgrade, the link ive posted one page back contains info about the existence of a 4m41 equipped with VGT. but unfortunately it's only available in japan.

i think just putting in the VGT wouldn't do. (goodluck finding one here) i believe there is a need to change the ECU.

4m41 with VGT? what do we expect? we in this country always seem to have the least in anything available in the market. PARTICULARLY CAR SPECS ON THIS MATTER.

[XTO]

hello pipol :D long time no post .... i will be getting my bodykit from a-toy sana matapos etong project early baka abutin ng christmas :D ..

eiiii Kenneth!, don't forget to post pics

btw, i just replaced my stock air filter with KN&N, i timed it after the 5K PMS yesterday so tingnan natin kung ano meron 'to hahaha

[Memphis Raines]

4m41 with VGT? what do we expect? we in this country always seem to have the least in anything available in the market. PARTICULARLY CAR SPECS ON THIS MATTER.

+1. Even the gas variant isn't available here. Buti pa ang Fort may Vvt-i as a good option.

[dadz]

Hindi nga kaya kaya hindi na ako nag palit nag injectors and i went back to stock kasi padami nag padami ang kailagan palitan medyo lumaki gastos so benta and mods and went back to stock hehehehehehe

wow!! Your mods are really phenomenal for a CRDi engine sir Dadz! Saludo po ako sau! hahaha

Anyways, if I may ask sir? Im curious if the factory fuel pump was able to support the required fuel delivery for your mods? Especially when you upgraded na din the injectors? I assume the factory pumps we have wont be able to support 300hp even 230hp at the crank.. hmmmm... or am I wrong po?

[dadz]

+1. Even the gas variant isn't available here. Buti pa ang Fort may Vvt-i as a good option.

+1 also ang daming labas na hindi na released diyan sa atin even sa service like dito we can change to upgrade and downgrade our ECU version but diyan sa atin pag release yun na wala nag option to change.

[aldrichsy]

eiiii Kenneth!, don't forget to post pics

btw, i just replaced my stock air filter with KN&N, i timed it after the 5K PMS yesterday so tingnan natin kung ano meron 'to hahaha

sir.. hindi ba mavovoid yung warranty natin kapag nag K&N filter tayo?? by the way.. how much bili niyo??

[Memphis Raines]

Yes it will void the engine warranty.

Simply remove it before your PMS to hide it.

Put it back after.

[XTO]

sir.. hindi ba mavovoid yung warranty natin kapag nag K&N filter tayo?? by the way.. how much bili niyo??

aldrichsy, i have 20 pcs coming from USA. i'll let you know. presyong MSCP :shhh:

[Rho1D]

got them at mickey's autosound, around 12.5k yet you can get it cheaper at banawe only 8 to 9 k.
yes it comes with the whole head rest. 9 inches n 8 are big yet 7 inches looks more elegant and close to OEM headrest

Thanks Mikko. May I also ask what's the specific model and where in Banawe? Just had my AVX-77 installed at Winterpine yesterday and I'm quite pleased with it but I didn't like the MTECH headrest monitors they had because the uphostery is darker than what's on my Monty so I had to hold-off on that.

At the same time I had my horns replaced with a Bosch Europa which is way better than the stocks (was surprised that the stock was that small).

Rho1D

[aldrichsy]

please pm me the price nalang sir xto.. thanks.. and will do as memphis says.. just to be sure.. hehe...

[ianmitsulancer]

+1. Even the gas variant isn't available here. Buti pa ang Fort may Vvt-i as a good option.

Probably the 2.4 MIVEC 4G69 would be best suited. The problem is, MMTh hasnt ventured into this engine yet... To this date, it is still in the Grandis and Mitsubishi in Taiwan installed it in the Zinger/Fuzion.

[surg]

mga bros, pls post naman tel # of seatmate in mandaluyong. province kasi ako kaya want to call them 1st bago ako lumuwas. or baka may alam pa kayo maganda gumawa ng seat cover sa quezon city or near q.c
TIA