Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

**glenn_duke** · November 26th, 2015 02:22 AM

AFAIK, correct me if Im wrong, the Toyota SUA is different from the MS SUA.

Majority of the Toyota SUA in the US, the car is already in motion when the SUA occurred.
The SUA incidents were not isolated to one Toyota model but to different models including a model of its sister company Lexus.
And the SUA incidents were not confined to the US but it also happened in Europe and probably also in China.

While in the MS case in the Phil, the SUA happened while starting the vehicle.
SUA is only isolated to MS, despite it shared the same platform with Strada.
SUA is only reported in the Phil, despite the MS in SE Asia are all manufactured and assembled in Thailand

In the case of the Toyota SUA, it can be assumed that its a part defects, because the incident happened across different Toyota models.
In the case of the MS SUA, it cannot be assumed that the defect is symptomatic to all MS as it only affects a few Phil units.
If the MS SUA is a part defect, then we should be seeing the same SUA across all Mitsu vehicles sharing the same parts, i.e, Strada/Triton, Pajero Sports, Challenger, etc.

**rene_tagle** · November 26th, 2015 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by jaggerx3

Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case

pwede mangyari yan sir kasi nga computer error yan, parang PC lang yan kapag nagloko or nagha-hang, kahit ano click mo sa mga apps di gagana, pati HDD light indicator di umiilaw. tsaka impossible na magshift pa sa drive yung driver sa ganyang sitwasyon, instinct agad nyan tapakan yung brake or itaas ang handbrake ng montero nya, kung naisip naman nya na ishift sa PARk dapat pataas at hindi pababa papuntang DRIVE kasi nga nasa REVERSE sya. yung starex namin dati kahit hindi inaapakan yung brake naka ilaw pa din yung brakelight, dinala namin sa casa nireset lang daw yung ECU ayun ok na ulit.

**glenn_duke** · November 26th, 2015 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by rene_tagle

pwede mangyari yan sir kasi nga computer error yan, parang PC lang yan kapag nagloko or nagha-hang, kahit ano click mo sa mga apps di gagana, pati HDD light indicator di umiilaw. tsaka impossible na magshift pa sa drive yung driver sa ganyang sitwasyon, instinct agad nyan tapakan yung brake or itaas ang handbrake ng montero nya, kung naisip naman nya na ishift sa PARk dapat pataas at hindi pababa papuntang DRIVE kasi nga nasa REVERSE sya. yung starex namin dati kahit hindi inaapakan yung brake naka ilaw pa din yung brakelight, dinala namin sa casa nireset lang daw yung ECU ayun ok na ulit.

Ibig mobang sabihin na ang brake system ng Starex ay brake by wire na?
Nag upgrade ako ng brake lights ng Starex ko from single point to double dual point contacts, very straightforward yung ginawa ng installer, walang binutinting sa ECU.
The only time na hindi umiilaw yung brake lights ko is when it is busted.

**rene_tagle** · November 26th, 2015 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Ibig mobang sabihin na ang brake system ng Starex ay brake by wire na?
Nag upgrade ako ng brake lights ng Starex ko from single point to double dual point contacts, very straightforward yung ginawa ng installer, walang binutinting sa ECU.
The only time na hindi umiilaw yung brake lights ko is when it is busted.

hindi po ako may sabi nun sir, si hyundai balintawak ang nagsabi at nagdiagnose nun, una iniinsist ng pinsan ko sa brakelight switch, pero nung ginawa nila hindi daw sa switch yun reset lang daw ecu ginawa nila, since umayos nman at wala naman na pinalitan na piyesa, malamang totoo sinabi ng SA. nagbayad lang sya para sa pagreset, di ko na matandaan kung magkano pero less than 1k lang.

**kik0matsing** · November 26th, 2015 05:45 AM

Buhay na buhay na naman tong thread na to ah!

**glenn manikis** · November 26th, 2015 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by car_fan

bro, nabasa mo naman siguro kung pano mag react yun mga experts. Lol. Pinako sa cruz yun natutong gumamit ng kaliwang paa for braking. It's the lack of ones perspective kaya di matanggap na pwede naman palang gamitin ang kaliwang paa kung yun ang kinagisnan ng tao.

I use my right foot to brake and i wouldnt even try using my left foot to do that. The current pedal set up may have been designed for right foot braking, but if someone is comfortable with left foot braking and has done that ever since tehn i think it will be second nature for that person to use the left foot. It's that simple. No one is saying that it should be that way. Lol

Meron talagang tao na hindi nakaka intindi ata ng safety....

Safety should always comes first...

No amount of experienced nor talent should overcome safety....

Hindi purkit magaling na AKO sumingit sa kalsada eh puro singit na ang Gagawin Ko...
Hindi purkit magaling ako mag drive, eh kas kas dito kas kas dun...
Hindi purkit-- NASA subd. Ka Lang, mabagal Lang naman ang takbo mo, hindi ka na mag seatbelt...
Hindi purkit-- magaling ka matalino-- may technique, eh gagamitin mo na ang left foot mo for braking...

Magaling ba yan o mayabang?

Ganun Lang ka simple Lang yan...

Madami talagang tao-- ang magagaling at Sobrang talino--

Akala nila magaling sila--- Pero paano naging magaling ang Isang tao kung--- if they are the one's who also endanger the lives of fellow motorist...

Why not drive SAFELY?

magaling ba o mayabang ang tawag dun?

**Monseratto** · November 26th, 2015 06:15 AM

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**frostmourn** · November 26th, 2015 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Ibig mobang sabihin na ang brake system ng Starex ay brake by wire na?
Nag upgrade ako ng brake lights ng Starex ko from single point to double dual point contacts, very straightforward yung ginawa ng installer, walang binutinting sa ECU.
The only time na hindi umiilaw yung brake lights ko is when it is busted.

You are right sir. Natawa ako dun ah. Napansin ko lang sa mga dealer, kung wala ka alam sa sasakyan kung ano ano lang sasabihin sayo ng mga sales advisor sa CASA para makapag dahilan sila. Maybe yung wire is grounded. ECU basically controls engine. Yung mga ilaw sir mechanical na yan. All of them has switch and hindi si ECU nagdedecide nyan to turn it on or off, yung driver itself. Hehe. Balik na tayo mga ka-SUHA sa montero.

**frostmourn** · November 26th, 2015 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by jaggerx3

Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case

Oo nga ano. Ito vid. Mukang kailangan nila ng malaking xmas bonus ah. Ang sipag magreport. Hehehe. Maniniwala ako dito pag may SUA na montero sa ibang bansa at strada. Hindi naman nila aaminin na error nila kasi last resort nila isisi sa manufacturer para makapag claim since hindi naman pala insured mga yan. Saklap. Sayang lang oras nila dyan.

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**car_fan** · November 26th, 2015 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by glenn manikis

Why not drive SAFELY?

magaling ba o mayabang ang tawag dun?

Definitely, everyone should drivr safely. Is it safe for us drivers who from the very start learned right foot driving? It's definitely unsafe. Because muscle memory dictates our left foot to stomp hard on whatever pedal it steps on.

Is it unsafe for those drivers who from the very start learned to use the left foot for braking and never drove an MT, I dont know coz i did not learn it that way. And probably, their left foot muscle memory is quite different from mine.

Now, just take away your perspective if it's kagalingan or kayabangan then maybe, just maybe, you can convince people like me who give other people the benefit of a doubt with your perspective.

Peace 😁