2010 Mitsubishi Strada [continued 2]

[jun_gats]

Hello po baka may naka experience po kayong ganito? yung unit ko po is 2012 strada na may 16k mileage ang issue ko po is yung driver side na fog lamp nung sasakyan ay nag momoist covering yung buong glass at 2 to 3 days sya bago mawala even with use of fog lamp light. para saakin at sa mga nakausap ko hindi po ito normal. yung sa passenger side na fog lamp ay hindi naman nag moist kahit kelan. Tumawag narin po ako sa MMPC at yung technical na taong nakausap ko ay sinabing hindi daw normal yung ganito at product defect ito. Nung nag claim naman ako sa EMC sabi nila dineny daw ng MMPC yung warranty claim nila. Meron po bang naka ranas ng ganito? sana po may makatulong. salamat

[CtrlAltDel]

...Nung nag claim naman ako sa EMC sabi nila dineny daw ng MMPC yung warranty claim nila. Meron po bang naka ranas ng ganito? sana po may makatulong. salamat

Bro I suggest you get your warranty booklet and owner's manual. Basahin mo doon ang coverage ng warranty. Minsan ko lang binasa ang booklet madali pa kaya hindi din ako sigurado kung covered ang mga ilaw. Sakaling covered, then you can formalize your complaint in a letter citing the coverage. Kung hindi covered, you can still write your complaint stating your disappointment for a defective product.

Good luck! By the way ano yung EMC?

[jun_gats]

Bro I suggest you get your warranty booklet and owner's manual. Basahin mo doon ang coverage ng warranty. Minsan ko lang binasa ang booklet madali pa kaya hindi din ako sigurado kung covered ang mga ilaw. Sakaling covered, then you can formalize your complaint in a letter citing the coverage. Kung hindi covered, you can still write your complaint stating your disappointment for a defective product.

Good luck! By the way ano yung EMC?

Maraming salamat bossing pero covered sya. 3 yrs ang warranty nila or 100k m kaso ang pagkakaintindi ng mga tao from MMPC and EMC ang magulo. Would you agree na dapat magkaroon ng tubig sa fog lamp at headlight mo? This is defenitely not normal but they are saying it is normal.

[nivraarvin]

Maraming salamat bossing pero covered sya. 3 yrs ang warranty nila or 100k m kaso ang pagkakaintindi ng mga tao from MMPC and EMC ang magulo. Would you agree na dapat magkaroon ng tubig sa fog lamp at headlight mo? This is defenitely not normal but they are saying it is normal.

Ang nasa manual, it is normal na magka moisture sa headlights / foglamps.

Ang hindi normal e mag moist tapos hindi nawawala after a few days. Or kung mawala man, e may water spots sa loob. If you can, try to see kung tama ang pagka mount ng bulbs sa fogs mo. Nasa manual din ang instructions kung pano gawin yun.

Please read the manual.

[RF02]

Almost the same as my question before... Sayang yung 16" mags so para mas malapad at konting taas kesa stock tire na 205/80-R16 pwede pamalit yung 245/70-R16. Ang pagkakaiba nila:

Width 245-205=40mm
Thickness (245*0.7)-(205*0.8)=171.5-166.4=5.1mm
Or additional 10.2mm sa diameter

I already saw 245s fitted on 16" stock rims on a strada here in Pasig city. Sinulat ko talaga yung size ng makita ko. Astig sya tingnan sa unmodified glx body. Itong goma ipapalit ko once napudpod na stock tires.

wow thanks so much sa info na ito matry nga magcanvass atleast meron na hope!!

hindi po ba mavvoid warranty kung goma lang papalitan sir?

[D3nb3r]

Not so sure as to what kind of rubber seal. Basta medyo makapal and seems to resemble the rubber sealing on the doors. However kapag napakalakas na ng ulan, minsan may tumutulo...

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ah, ganun ba sir. so hindi parin pala water tight yung seal na ginamit nila. may pics po ba kayo nang seal na ginamit?

Hello po baka may naka experience po kayong ganito? yung unit ko po is 2012 strada na may 16k mileage ang issue ko po is yung driver side na fog lamp nung sasakyan ay nag momoist covering yung buong glass at 2 to 3 days sya bago mawala even with use of fog lamp light. para saakin at sa mga nakausap ko hindi po ito normal. yung sa passenger side na fog lamp ay hindi naman nag moist kahit kelan. Tumawag narin po ako sa MMPC at yung technical na taong nakausap ko ay sinabing hindi daw normal yung ganito at product defect ito. Nung nag claim naman ako sa EMC sabi nila dineny daw ng MMPC yung warranty claim nila. Meron po bang naka ranas ng ganito? sana po may makatulong. salamat

Anong basis nila to say na normal lang ang ganun ka tagal na moisture inside fog lights? more improtantly on what grounds bakit na deny yung claim mo? Check the written report if there is any.

[GTi]

ah, ganun ba sir. so hindi parin pala water tight yung seal na ginamit nila. may pics po ba kayo nang seal na ginamit?

Hmm... Medyo mahirap makita yung goma but this pic shows a bit of it. Some of it is visible from the upper corners. I doubt they can really make an utterly watertight seal since it wasn't really designed for that.

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[jun_gats]

ah, ganun ba sir. so hindi parin pala water tight yung seal na ginamit nila. may pics po ba kayo nang seal na ginamit?



Anong basis nila to say na normal lang ang ganun ka tagal na moisture inside fog lights? more improtantly on what grounds bakit na deny yung claim mo? Check the written report if there is any.

Ito ang reply nila sir.

Our Customer Care Team has coordinated your concern with our Service Department and your servicing dealer, Evolander Motor Corporation (EMC). Based on their technical findings, the headlight usually has moisture inside its body. As the headlight is turned on, the temperature of the light bulb with its surrounding parts will increase and the water around those parts will evaporate. Thus, the absolute humidity inside the headlight goes up. If the front surface of the headlight (i.e. front lens) is cooled down by rain shower, car wash, or even cold wind, the temperature of the lens becomes lower than dew point of the air inside the headlamp body. Under this condition, dew concentration will occur on the headlight lens inner surface. Please understand that this is a normal phenomenon called "Condensation" and is not a product defect.

Humihingi ako ng spec sheet ng fog lamps pero wala daw sila. I cant believe na wala sila nito kasi requirement ito ng product at dito nakalagay yung details ng fog lamps. Tinatanong ko din yung breather kung single or dual ang function nya hindi rin nila alarm. Sa tingin ko its more on the technical knowledge ng taga MMPC at sa EMC. kasi hindi nga nila alam yung spec sheet. Sabi ko din pari ang fog lamps, left and right pero right lang ang nag kaka ganito, sabi ko din sa kanila na hindi dapat naghahala ang water at electricity. I think I had enough sa kasang ito at lilipat nako sa iba. salamat

[D3nb3r]

Hmm... Medyo mahirap makita yung goma but this pic shows a bit of it. Some of it is visible from the upper corners. I doubt they can really make an utterly watertight seal since it wasn't really designed for that.

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ah ok sir. thanks for sharing the pics. And your right medyo mahirap nga na maging watertight yan since iba ang movement nang main cabin sa cargo bed natin pag tumatakbo. Well at least if di naman ganun ka lakas ang leak nag cool air dun sa seal ok lang yun, lalo na sa mga extra passengers na na sa cargo bed

Ito ang reply nila sir.

Our Customer Care Team has coordinated your concern with our Service Department and your servicing dealer, Evolander Motor Corporation (EMC). Based on their technical findings, the headlight usually has moisture inside its body. As the headlight is turned on, the temperature of the light bulb with its surrounding parts will increase and the water around those parts will evaporate. Thus, the absolute humidity inside the headlight goes up. If the front surface of the headlight (i.e. front lens) is cooled down by rain shower, car wash, or even cold wind, the temperature of the lens becomes lower than dew point of the air inside the headlamp body. Under this condition, dew concentration will occur on the headlight lens inner surface. Please understand that this is a normal phenomenon called "Condensation" and is not a product defect.

Humihingi ako ng spec sheet ng fog lamps pero wala daw sila. I cant believe na wala sila nito kasi requirement ito ng product at dito nakalagay yung details ng fog lamps. salamat

Langya, at naka quote pa ang condensation na word ha. Pareho pala tayo nang dealer, evolander din sa akin. Anyway, yes normal ang condensation in a certain percentage dahil na experience ko na rin sa headlights ko yan. di ko lang sure ilan yung allowable. but as you mention 3days na di parin nawawala ang moisture. Then that's a different story. Also wag ka nang umasa about technical matters sa mga taga casa. they're dumb when it comes to those things (or just playing dumb).

Edit: sabi nila dyan na "based on their technical findings" meaning yung nag sulat nang report, either servicing department or evolander. If they reported a minor moisture lang then the management will most likely deny your claim.

[jun_gats]

ah ok sir. thanks for sharing the pics. And your right medyo mahirap nga na maging watertight yan since iba ang movement nang main cabin sa cargo bed natin pag tumatakbo. Well at least if di naman ganun ka lakas ang leak nag cool air dun sa seal ok lang yun, lalo na sa mga extra passengers na na sa cargo bed




Langya, at naka quote pa ang condensation na word ha. Pareho pala tayo nang dealer, evolander din sa akin. Anyway, yes normal ang condensation in a certain percentage dahil na experience ko na rin sa headlights ko yan. di ko lang sure ilan yung allowable. but as you mention 3days na di parin nawawala ang moisture. Then that's a different story. Also wag ka nang umasa about technical matters sa mga taga casa. they're dumb when it comes to those things (or just playing dumb).

san kayo naka tira banda sir? muzon lang ako. oo nga, hassle tlga itong casa na ito, lilipat nako sa may valle verde, I've heard na ok dito. I told them i wawaranty claim din nila ito sa OEM which is denso kaya paper work lng ang dagdag na trabaho nila dito at walang cost. I do not believe that they should be dumb/ playing dumb kasi kung hindi nila alam ang kanilang ginagawa dapat e lumipat na sila ng trabahong para sa kanilang skill set. they are being payed for something they are not capable. I believe in the Mitsu brand sayang lang at nasisira ito ng mga ganitong tao.

[D3nb3r]

san kayo naka tira banda sir? muzon lang ako. oo nga, hassle tlga itong casa na ito, lilipat nako sa may valle verde, I've heard na ok dito. I told them i wawaranty claim din nila ito sa OEM which is denso kaya paper work lng ang dagdag na trabaho nila dito at walang cost. I do not believe that they should be dumb/ playing dumb kasi kung hindi nila alam ang kanilang ginagawa dapat e lumipat na sila ng trabahong para sa kanilang skill set. they are being payed for something they are not capable. I believe in the Mitsu brand sayang lang at nasisira ito ng mga ganitong tao.

naku ang layo ko sir. nasa Mindanao po ako. Dyan ko lang kimuha sa Manila yung unit ko. Approachable naman mga taga Mitsu casa dito sa amin. Lipat nlang nga siguro kayo sir nang casa.

About the dumb or playing dumb thing, that is base on my experience. Di ako mag bibitaw nang salitang ganun if they are not like that.
For example: last time I told my wife to buy a cabin filter since our rig doesn't have one when it came out of the dealer. Then I told my wife na isabay na ang pag palit nang cabin filter sa routine PMS (I'm an OFW kaya wala ako sa pinas). Nung mag PMS na and my wife told them to install the filter, ang sagot is, we'll see na lang maam dahil di pa kmi nka kabit nyan sa strada. monty lang daw. I said,to my self Holy sh** pareho lang ang cabin filter nang strada at monty. then they told my wife na sabay nalng daw sa next PMS pag nag linis nang aircon. so antayin muna dumumi bago lagyan nang filter. Kaya I hope you see my point.

[ezrydre]

Sir mas maganda ma picturan mo foglight. then compare left and right. mmpc kasi nagrerely lang yan sa report ng warranty officer ng casa. tsaka subukan mo dalhin sa ibang casa. dvv is a good casa interms if warranty claim as far as i read. good luck.

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[jun_gats]

ah ok sir. thanks for sharing the pics. And your right medyo mahirap nga na maging watertight yan since iba ang movement nang main cabin sa cargo bed natin pag tumatakbo. Well at least if di naman ganun ka lakas ang leak nag cool air dun sa seal ok lang yun, lalo na sa mga extra passengers na na sa cargo bed




Langya, at naka quote pa ang condensation na word ha. Pareho pala tayo nang dealer, evolander din sa akin. Anyway, yes normal ang condensation in a certain percentage dahil na experience ko na rin sa headlights ko yan. di ko lang sure ilan yung allowable. but as you mention 3days na di parin nawawala ang moisture. Then that's a different story. Also wag ka nang umasa about technical matters sa mga taga casa. they're dumb when it comes to those things (or just playing dumb).

Edit: sabi nila dyan na "based on their technical findings" meaning yung nag sulat nang report, either servicing department or evolander. If they reported a minor moisture lang then the management will most likely deny your claim.

oo nga sir. sabi ko sa EMC certified sila ng MMPC kaya dapat trabahong certified ang gawin nila. kausap ko na yung manager nila pero hindi rin sya makapag decide.

"As the headlight is turned on, the temperature of the light bulb with its surrounding parts will increase and the water around those parts will evaporate." sinabi ko na ngang 2 to 3 days bago mawala kahit ginagamit yung fog lamp pero hindi parin nya magets na hindi nga nag evaporate. Well lessoned learned ito na hindi porke malapit walang hassle.

[killer_eyes]

di talaga normal yan kung ganun katagal.

do you have a regular SA sa casa? usually they can help lalo na kung good terms kayo. pwede nya lakarin na ma claim mo.

sa crosswind nun sinabihan ako agad ng barkada ko from plant na may issue ang headlight ng crosswind. so kung matapat daw na mag moist, wag daw ako papayag na i reseal, papalitan ko daw at papalitan din naman ng planta.

siguro naman pareho lang situation nun.

usually pag ganyan may prob sa seal ng headlight, yung aftermarket fog ko ako na lang nag reseal. kaso ibang usapan yan kasi may warranty pa dapat yan

[monty_GTV]

anyone looking for Racechip Pro 2? i'm selling my 1 month used RCP2, complete with box and manual, PM me if interested...TIA

[dj ian]

Sir bakit mo bebenta?

[monty_GTV]

Sir bakit mo bebenta?

upgrade lang sir ng mas bagong diesel tuning chip..

[RF02]

mga sir kapag po ba pinalitan ko mags and tires ko maVOID po warranty?

[dj ian]

upgrade lang sir ng mas bagong diesel tuning chip..

Ok sir tnx.. akala ko may negative feedback..

[dj ian]

mga sir kapag po ba pinalitan ko mags and tires ko maVOID po warranty?

Ang alam ko hindi sir, as long na nasusunod pms mo sa kanila. D naman mahigpit ang mitsu sa warranty. Di gaya ng honda, sobrang higpit.