2008 Mitsubishi Lancer EX GLX / GLS / MX / GT / GTA [ARCHIVED]

[oliver1013]

Here's an interesting article from edmunds.com: Drum vs Disc

Nice read....very informative

[Newcomer123]

Kumusta na kaya yung MX? Itutuloy pa kaya ng Mitsubishi ang pag-produce nito?

Feeling ko kasi lugi ako sa specs ng EX GLS compared sa same priced models ng Toyota at HOnda. MX lang ang competively priced sa 950K bracket...

[Newcomer123]

Sa lakas kasi ng engine ng EX, bakit naman inalis yung ABS sa GLS/GLX...

Masyadong makitid na ang margin of safety, imo, unless pwedeng i-request na idagdag. Pero duda akong meron ngang ABS kit na basta na lang i-install. Wala pa akong narinig na ganun...

[moipogi]

Why would they price the Evo with the STI when the STI sucks bigtime! Watch Topgear videos and see how the Evo dismantled the STI with ease.

Yes yes yes. . the part where the EVO runs rings around the STi. My point was the product positioning should reflect the pricing. In terms of state of tune, Ralliart is at par with WRX, EVO at par with STi. No assumptions on which one is better. . .

[moipogi]

I don't agree with the idea.

1) Drum brakes have a higher tendency of locking up. That happened to me a lot on different vehicles and to a couple of my friends too since there's not much ventilation for the brakes to cool off since it's conformed to a shell.

2) If ever you drive under a knee water deep road you'll experience not having brakes at the rear or they'll be a sloshing sound and will result in a tail spin even when you have ABS. Reason is that the shell of the drum is filled up with water and it'll take a long time for the water to drain off. The ABS can't detect if your drum brakes have been compromised.

3) It's a lot easier to maintain a disc compared to a drum. Specially when it comes to aligning the brake pads of the drum types, there's a spring mechanism there and that could bite your fingers off. The brake pad alignment for drum brakes are hard.

You don't even have to drive fast or on the edge to feel the difference in stopping power, braking distance and brake control of these 2 setups.

No arguments here bro. These are based on my experience. Yours may probably be different.

Really depends on the situation and the style of driving. At normal city and highway driving, you very rarely, if ever will lock up your brakes, assuming you maintain a proper distance and don't drive at the edge. Been driving disc-drum cars and some disc-disc cars and by my experience almost all of the time it does not matter. Locking up my brakes and invoking ABS only happened a few times, but that's through my over-eagerness to overtake (the spirit was willing, but the car was weak ).

The situations you suggest are quite on the extreme side. Running through knee-deep water is ill-advised. And if are able to invoke ABS right after running through knee deep water, you're in a very big hurry indeed. The prudent way would be to do the time-honored tradition of slightly riding on your brakes and driving carefully just after passing through a heavily flooded area.

Likewise, in normal driving the advantages of disc vs drum (better heat dissipation, can shed water/dirt faster) are really only maximized by the fronts. . .

But no worries. To each his own.

[sumo_pil]

Just got my new Lancer EX GLS.....Wala ako masabi ang ganda....

[SaberRider]

Here's an interesting article from edmunds.com: Drum vs Disc

Noong Year 2000 pa etong article na eto. What caught my attention here is that NOTHING specific was mentioned about the so-called "advancements/improvements" made on drum brakes done over the decades. Generally, they just said that improvements have been made over the years? Well, to find out, just open up the rear of your box type and the rear of your latest generation compact sedan with a drum brake and you'll see if there are any differences.... which are, none. Maniniwala sana ako if they mentioned like there was a change in materials being used for making drum brakes or maski simpleng brake pad compnonent pero wala eh.

[SaberRider]

Here's an interesting article from edmunds.com: Drum vs Disc

No arguments here bro. These are based on my experience. Yours may probably be different.

Really depends on the situation and the style of driving. At normal city and highway driving, you very rarely, if ever will lock up your brakes, assuming you maintain a proper distance and don't drive at the edge. Been driving disc-drum cars and some disc-disc cars and by my experience almost all of the time it does not matter. Locking up my brakes and invoking ABS only happened a few times, but that's through my over-eagerness to overtake (the spirit was willing, but the car was weak ).

The situations you suggest are quite on the extreme side. Running through knee-deep water is ill-advised. And if are able to invoke ABS right after running through knee deep water, you're in a very big hurry indeed. The prudent way would be to do the time-honored tradition of slightly riding on your brakes and driving carefully just after passing through a heavily flooded area.

Likewise, in normal driving the advantages of disc vs drum (better heat dissipation, can shed water/dirt faster) are really only maximized by the fronts. . .

But no worries. To each his own.

As mentioned, water can stay for days on end inside your drum lalo na pag madumi yung tubig ang dinaanan mo. So even if you drive to a crawl on and off water it wouldn't matter. Why? Because the water is stuck inside the drum. Like what I said before "You don't even have to drive fast or on the edge to feel the difference in stopping power, braking distance and brake control of these 2 setups."

Also what you said "Likewise, in normal driving the advantages of disc vs drum (better heat dissipation, can shed water/dirt faster) are really only maximized by the fronts. . ." then please read this, there's a good reason why we still utilize drum brakes.

http://cars.about.com/od/thingsyoune...discvsdrum.htm

[raponskie]

guys is it true na meron lancer EX 1.5? balak ko kc bumili ng EX kaso laking engine malamang malakas sa gas e

[Horsepower]

I don't understand how water can stay for so long when the braking system is one of the hottest in a car due to metal-metal friction. The water will evaporate abruptly.

After going through a flood, I usually brake intermittently to "wipe" away water. Never failed so far.

I have driven disc-drum and All-disc, never really felt the difference except that the all-disc can be replaced with cross-drilled discs which looks so good (for me).


*Raponskie: not necessarily sir. May power:load factor pa kasi. Kung mahina ang engine masyado for such a big car, poor economy din kalalabasan.

Meron nang Lancer EX Di-D sana ilabas dito! hehehe

[Chrionic]

guys is it true na meron lancer EX 1.5? balak ko kc bumili ng EX kaso laking engine malamang malakas sa gas e

The 1.5 EX was only released as a euro version. The 2.0 is not that gas hungry. City driving gives me an average of 9 to 10 km/li. This includes traffic, a lot of inclines (Baguio), redlining every other week. If i probably try to be conscious of the gas, it might even give me an average of 10 - 12 km/li. It's quite fun to drive that it why I just have to floor it once in a while so my gas consumption is not quite conservative. Kuha na kayo sir.

Tama rin si horsepower. I would not want a heavy car pulled around by a small engine. Baka mas matakaw sa gas because I would have to depress the gas further to get to an acceptable speed or I might be using the lower gears most of the time to get me up the hills.

[ianmitsulancer]

i do agree with Chrionic- matipid ang 2.0 4B11.

it is very unlikely to get the 1.5li engine for the local market as well as asia since this is made in europe... it is expensive to send the engine to japan, assemble it there then ship it here to be sold!

D-iD? lets wait for 4N1 series engines...

[moipogi]

I agree on the need for a match on engine vs car size. Big car + small engine = underpowered car = bad fuel economy.

Case in point:

My Suzuki APV (gen 1) has the 1.6L auto. FC = 5.5km/l average
Lancer MX 2.0 CVT has FC = 7-8km/l city; 9-12km/l highway

On both, the measurements were taken using odometer reading + pump reading on automatic fill + same gas station + same pump so as to keep things equal.

[Newcomer123]

Napakadalang pa rin nitong bagong Lancer EX. Wala halos akong makita pa nito.

Bakit kaya di mag-takeoff ang benta nya?

[Horsepower]

Takot ang tao sa 2.0 iniisip nila malakas sa gas.

[oliver1013]

Onga takot tao sa 2.0...tsaka sa mitsubishi

[gwapster]

Mukha ngang dahil sa generalization na 2.0L = malakas sa gas. Kasi kahit yung ever-popular Honda Civic, di naman nagkalat ang 2.0L na high-end nya. Ganun din sa bagong Toyota Corolla.

[abcerase]

mga sirs, ask k lang po kc m looking at the 2009 1.6 cvt gls..but seeing on the mitsu price list, m also looking at the EX gls but it is 200k more...ask k lang po kung sulit ba yun 200k more in terms of over-all features such such as Interior, Suspension, Leg Room and a bit of FC? Thanks po

**eto lang po yun kasi yun kasya s budget k..thanks!

[Newcomer123]

Kagabi sa EDSA, may nakita ako, isa lang, red GT-A pa.

Litaw na litaw talaga yung singkit na rear brakelights. Galit na galit tignan. ;)

Mabagal nga lang umandar, mukhang break-in pa.

*abcerase

Kung ika-pupulubi mo naman yung 200k, di talaga worth.

Ang binibili mo talaga dyan ay pride of ownership ng isang bagong designed na kotse. If that's worth it to you, without buyer's remorse biting you after the purchase, then go for it!

[Newcomer123]

Sa tingin ko nga na-miss ng Mitsu ang sweet spot na 1.8L engine size. Ngayung erratic ang price ng fuel, di nga sya magiging competitive sa market.