2008 Mitsubishi Lancer EX GLX / GLS / MX / GT / GTA [ARCHIVED]

[OUT-101]

right on dude! mitsu phis are "more overpriced" (but i still like mitsu though)

the way they priced their cars is so disappointing (lancer ex gls and mx prices are too close and yet the only difference is paddle shifter and sportronic mode... then lancer mx and gt-a, well the sounds, tires, body skirts, spoiler! who cares!?) if i buy a gt-a, its because of the break system, airbags)

and also Offtopic, isnt it funny? why buy a fuzion when you can buy a montero which is only a 100k petot more but way better and convenient and its a DIESELl!?

[ianmitsulancer]

yah thats one of the downside in buying a car here in phil.. in the US, cars are necessity, you cannot move around without a car, so government makes sure that its affordable to everyone.. now, cars in the US are so cheap coz of the recession, most of the dealers are giving big discounts.. the lancers are $2K plus off from the srp..

actually, about 10-12 years ago when this country was affected by the currency crunch, prices went up! before the crisis started July 1997, we got the Space Wagon A/T at 750k. a year and a half later, it ballooned to almost 850k until it ceased production. If the Philippines had the same thought as the Americans, we would be purchasing cars at a lesser price!

Yes, i do recall MMPC's PR of 4 cars to be launched in 2009... to my understanding, the Lancer EX GLS CVT and the Montero Sport 4x2 are the first two. aside from that, i think the Pajero 2009 will on sale as well as a Mystery Model- which is either the Fuzion CRDi or the facelifted Strada.

[OUT-101]

actually, about 10-12 years ago when this country was affected by the currency crunch, prices went up! before the crisis started July 1997, we got the Space Wagon A/T at 750k. a year and a half later, it ballooned to almost 850k until it ceased production. If the Philippines had the same thought as the Americans, we would be purchasing cars at a lesser price!

Yes, i do recall MMPC's PR of 4 cars to be launched in 2009... to my understanding, the Lancer EX GLS CVT and the Montero Sport 4x2 are the first two. aside from that, i think the Pajero 2009 will on sale as well as a Mystery Model- which is either the Fuzion CRDi or the facelifted Strada.

..too bad..

..but on a second thought, fuzion crdi is very much welcome! my wife likes it! hopefully the price is as competitive as innova and livina!

[gwapster]

Speaking of Lancer EX GLS...

I still don't see the Lancer EX GLS competing price-wise with Civics and Corollas in its price range. For that price, both Honda and Toyota offer much more features. Because of model positioning, there's a possibility that Mitsu Philippines will soon bump up the price of the MX, otherwise who would buy the GLS if for about 50K more you can get the much better MX (which is right now the only competitively priced EX, IMHO). Besides, that CVT would be boring without paddle shifters, hehe.

But if price has been matched better with competition, Lancer EX would beat the crap out of both Civic and Corolla, lalo na kung alam sana ng mga tao na yung mga Lancer EX ay built in Japan. If that becomes common knowledge (apparently it isn't commonly known), people would immediately trust the Lancer EX for quality, on the basis of the Japan CBU thing alone. Di ba, ano mas tiwala ka, gawang Japan or gawang Thailand. Hehe.

Pero tama ba ang narinig ko, na any model below MX (GLX and GLS) of the Lancer EX, walang ABS at EBD? That's about as ridiculous as those Civics with no airbags (well at least lahat ng EX merong airbags). Sa panahon ngayon, di ba safety ang huling binabawas na features when you cut-cost on the entry level?

Actually yung MX ko nga, disappointed ako sa rear brakes nya, hindi man lang disc. That's about my only gripe about the MX, actually. But still, safety related.

[oliver1013]

Yun nga e, disc nalang tinipid pa, pero if you look at the other features parang trade off na din sa presyo nya, 6 speed sportronic and paddle shifts, adaptive front lighting system...parang hi end na camry..

[ianmitsulancer]

^^^ --IMO--

Disclaimer: I'm not an employee of MMPC but if I was to put myself in a product planner's shoe, here is my response:

Pricing the Lancer EX GLX and GLS was a challenge by MMPC because they had to contend with the fact that the 2.0 MIVEC engine is only engine choice available from Japan. So to price it to the level of the Civic 1.8 V/S or the Altis 1.6 E and G, they have to cut out on some of the features given the high price of having a big engine. It is like creating a balance or should i say "dagdag/bawas". I'm sure they had every intention of retaining most safety features the rear discs + ABS/EBD feature among others are one of the items that can be easily removed of the spec list.

Looking at the PDF brochure of the Lancer EX GLX (and i presume it would be the same with the GLS) its more than the rear discs + ABS/EBD that was deleted. Some notable features that were taken off were the AFS (Auto Focusing Headlamps), the 6 disc in dash cd changer, the gray/carbon fiber like interior to name a few... haiz.

Just curious... is there a way to buy the rear discs found in the Grandis? pareho lang naman siguro, plus it is a similar 5 stud design pa!

[gwapster]

Yun nga e, disc nalang tinipid pa, pero if you look at the other features parang trade off na din sa presyo nya, 6 speed sportronic and paddle shifts, adaptive front lighting system...parang hi end na camry..

Sabi naman ng father ko, di naman daw magma-matter ang disc rear brakes given that the MX model is not intended for the track. Well, I'm still wondering how big a deal it is, especially for people who like spirited driving on the expressways. Mas delikado ba kapag hindi disc ang rear brakes, even if the car is front-wheel driven naman, and front-biased weight distribution?

Baka naman kasi the designers thought the rear discs are the least important, and thus one of the first things to go for the MX.

Now, as for ABS+EBD being taken off the GLS, I'm quite sure those two safety features are very important, possibly as important as air bags (which entry level Civics lack).

Maangal lang talaga ako, hehehe, pero the GT-A should have been given an Electronic Stability Control, IMHO.

[ianmitsulancer]

Sabi naman ng father ko, di naman daw magma-matter ang disc rear brakes given that the MX model is not intended for the track. Well, I'm still wondering how big a deal it is, especially for people who like spirited driving on the expressways. Mas delikado ba kapag hindi disc ang rear brakes, even if the car is front-wheel driven naman, and front-biased weight distribution?

Baka naman kasi the designers thought the rear discs are the least important, and thus one of the first things to go for the MX.

Now, as for ABS+EBD being taken off the GLS, I'm quite sure those two safety features are very important, possibly as important as air bags (which entry level Civics lack).

Maangal lang talaga ako, hehehe, pero the GT-A should have been given an Electronic Stability Control, IMHO.

*gwapster- ok lang yun, bro... there have been several instances when Mitsubishi failed to meet my expectations...

i might know of another reason (aside from cost cutting) kung bakit drum brakes ang napadpad diyan... i just have to confirm it muna...

stories and reasons are best told over coffee...

ESC? or that would be the ASC (active stability control- i think) like the one found in the Outlander 3.0 GLS Sport...

otherwise, pasensyahan nalang tayo... :consoling2:

[alainroyce]

Actually yung MX ko nga, disappointed ako sa rear brakes nya, hindi man lang disc. That's about my only gripe about the MX, actually. But still, safety related.

same here... actually i plan to replace my 2005 lancer GLS cvt... kaya lang rear drum brake yung MX.. yun ang nakasira sa tingin ko sa MX... kaya isip isip muna...dapat cguro ibalik nila yung all wheel disk brake nila, buti pa dati kahit low end naka disk brake... parang pa atras nanaman sila...

[oliver1013]

Nakaka turn off talga yung drum, pero naisip ko din noon bago ko magdecide on MX...Sa dinami dami nang namaneho ko sasakyan na drum at disc, 90% city driving then the rest sporadic out of town trips, wala naman akong naexperience na kakaiba na masasabi kong uy kasi drum kaya ganon or uy buti nalang disc brake ako kaya ganito, so parang wala lang humihinto naman sila lahat pag umapak ako sa pedal ng brake..

Yung Pajero nga doble pa, drum in disc ang gawa, e ganun din wala naman akong napansin na kakaiba sa ibang sasakyan naka disc man o drum..

Kung meron man, mas maganda tingnan ang disc brakes...

[tool_46n2]

the beauty behind buying lowest-end model is the opportunities in modding it. For me Lancer GLX is the prime example.
Same 2.0 engine as the top of the line, manual transmission, bare electronics/radio, non-disc brakes, 15inch wheels. If your really into racing then modding becomes a second sight. and How difficult it is to replace a rear drum compared to an engine change?

[pajero gmbh]

Mga Sir meron na ba kayo alam saan tayo makakbili ng accesories
for our lancers preferrably oem parts :D
-scuff plates
-emblem
-black rear tail lights
-etc.

[moipogi]

I admit during my younger days, I was salivating on the prospect of converting my big body Corolla's rear drums to discs. What stoppped me then was the added complexity of the swap, since mine had ABS and the tech was unsure if the swap would change the proportioning of the ABS system.

That being said, fast forward some years and I find myself an owner of a Lancer EX MX. Not the top of the line variant, but still pretty good. I grimaced at the sight of rear drums (vs the rear discs of the 2.0 Civic) but decided to go for it.

Drive wise, I find no discernible difference in city and usual highway driving between rear disc and drum-brake equipped cars. More accurately, I don't seem to feel the need for rear discs.

*gwapster - The EX MX has far more braking potential compared to older cars with disc-disc setups. Just came from a May 1 weekend in Bataan and Subic, and I can tell you the Lancer EX MX has the chops in more "spirited" driving. I can brake later and harder vs an older Corona 2.0 or a Galant shark nose (assuming stock sila ha).

Consulting a mechanic and the net, I found that 60-70% of braking power is by the front wheels. Thus, unless you drive fast and on the edge most of the time, you likely will be satisfied with a disc-drum combo. Also, ABS is far more important that rear discs alone.

[ianmitsulancer]

I admit during my younger days, I was salivating on the prospect of converting my big body Corolla's rear drums to discs. What stoppped me then was the added complexity of the swap, since mine had ABS and the tech was unsure if the swap would change the proportioning of the ABS system.

That being said, fast forward some years and I find myself an owner of a Lancer EX MX. Not the top of the line variant, but still pretty good. I grimaced at the sight of rear drums (vs the rear discs of the 2.0 Civic) but decided to go for it.

Drive wise, I find no discernible difference in city and usual highway driving between rear disc and drum-brake equipped cars. More accurately, I don't seem to feel the need for rear discs.

*gwapster - The EX MX has far more braking potential compared to older cars with disc-disc setups. Just came from a May 1 weekend in Bataan and Subic, and I can tell you the Lancer EX MX has the chops in more "spirited" driving. I can brake later and harder vs an older Corona 2.0 or a Galant shark nose (assuming stock sila ha).

Consulting a mechanic and the net, I found that 60-70% of braking power is by the front wheels. Thus, unless you drive fast and on the edge most of the time, you likely will be satisfied with a disc-drum combo. Also, ABS is far more important that rear discs alone.

noted... we just have to be a bit more aware of the wear and tear of the brake pads then when it comes to spirited driving... the fun to drive factor would mean tossing the accelerator to high heavens! hehehe...

[moipogi]

i was really impressed with the lancer ralliart when i saw it in the US..
i hope twill not go beyond 2m petot coz when i converted the US price, its only around 1.5m petot.. mitsu shud bring it here coz in time like this (crisis), i dont think people will buy evo.. (i rather buy a bmer) hehehe...

To be competitive, Ralliart should be priced close to the Impreza WRX/Forester Turbo. The EVO should be close the the WRX STI.

[vice]

Mga Sir meron na ba kayo alam saan tayo makakbili ng accesories
for our lancers preferrably oem parts :D
-scuff plates
-emblem
-black rear tail lights
-etc.

Had to get all of these from Japan. Have not seen any shops selling these, especially the Ralliart Tail Lights.

[OUT-101]

To be competitive, Ralliart should be priced close to the Impreza WRX/Forester Turbo. The EVO should be close the the WRX STI.

sir, how much is the subaru impreza wrx/forester turbo?

[SaberRider]

I admit during my younger days, I was salivating on the prospect of converting my big body Corolla's rear drums to discs. What stoppped me then was the added complexity of the swap, since mine had ABS and the tech was unsure if the swap would change the proportioning of the ABS system.

That being said, fast forward some years and I find myself an owner of a Lancer EX MX. Not the top of the line variant, but still pretty good. I grimaced at the sight of rear drums (vs the rear discs of the 2.0 Civic) but decided to go for it.

Drive wise, I find no discernible difference in city and usual highway driving between rear disc and drum-brake equipped cars. More accurately, I don't seem to feel the need for rear discs.

*gwapster - The EX MX has far more braking potential compared to older cars with disc-disc setups. Just came from a May 1 weekend in Bataan and Subic, and I can tell you the Lancer EX MX has the chops in more "spirited" driving. I can brake later and harder vs an older Corona 2.0 or a Galant shark nose (assuming stock sila ha).

Consulting a mechanic and the net, I found that 60-70% of braking power is by the front wheels. Thus, unless you drive fast and on the edge most of the time, you likely will be satisfied with a disc-drum combo. Also, ABS is far more important that rear discs alone.

I don't agree with the idea.

1) Drum brakes have a higher tendency of locking up. That happened to me a lot on different vehicles and to a couple of my friends too since there's not much ventilation for the brakes to cool off since it's conformed to a shell.

2) If ever you drive under a knee water deep road you'll experience not having brakes at the rear or they'll be a sloshing sound and will result in a tail spin even when you have ABS. Reason is that the shell of the drum is filled up with water and it'll take a long time for the water to drain off. The ABS can't detect if your drum brakes have been compromised.

3) It's a lot easier to maintain a disc compared to a drum. Specially when it comes to aligning the brake pads of the drum types, there's a spring mechanism there and that could bite your fingers off. The brake pad alignment for drum brakes are hard.

You don't even have to drive fast or on the edge to feel the difference in stopping power, braking distance and brake control of these 2 setups.

[oliver1013]

humahataw pa ba kayo pag umuulan? lalo na kung kakadaan sa baha? kahit naka disc kung basa ang kalsada or lalo na kakadaan sa baha diba marapat na dahan dahan lang muna at testing brakes bago bumilis ng konti?

[SaberRider]

humahataw pa ba kayo pag umuulan? lalo na kung kakadaan sa baha? kahit naka disc kung basa ang kalsada or lalo na kakadaan sa baha diba marapat na dahan dahan lang muna at testing brakes bago bumilis ng konti?

Common sense naman po syempre hindi! What you fail to think is that weather you're going slow or fast eh malulubog yung drum brakes mo and it'll fill up with water.... yun lang po ang point ko! Besides, disc brakes don't accumulate water.