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    #521
    Hello Sir,

    I think you feel offended kasi ikaw ang nag post ng link tungkol sa "review" ng AI?!
    Nope... I wasn't offended at all.

    backread the past pages and dami kong na-cite about the vehicle
    Yes, it's true but what I am implying here is, can you just appreciate a review from other people?

    What you said were subjective data's. However, I think a professional reviewer would point a mixed subjective and objective review.

    I'm not an official online car test driver that posts on automotive websites as my profession.
    Your initial post seemed to me that you are a reviewer/journalist in Bangkok because you were scheduled for a 3 day test drive. My apologies.
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    #522
    *THMVC

    If you have the chance, can you take a picture of the information display getting a 22-24mpg and 3o+ mpg?

    Thanks...
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    #523
    In the defense of my friend and kapwa driver na si Sir Auto.

    1) tama nga, were just ordinary motorist. We're not auto columnist which is a good thing because were not easily sold by propaganda or hypes.

    2) everyone's review is subjective, even the "professional auto columnist."

    3) I think the reason why sir Auto was talking about the "cons" of the 08 Lancer was because when we were in Bangkok everyone was raving about the Lancer to the point na akala mo they've driven in it already?

    4) the Lancer is an awesome looking vehicle outside I'll give you that. But that's just looking at the obvious and a no-brainer.

    5) eto naman ang simple and short personal take ko sa Lancer. I drove the GTS model.

    a) great looks
    b) nice interior if not for some cheap plastics on the side.
    c) great entertainment system sayang about the internal hardrive nga. Copy and paste wala man lang optional usb drive or removable hdrive for less hassle. Sound system is excellent. Another gripe about sa audio system is if you're planning to change or upgrade it, goodluck in trying to saw off the dashboard. The GTS has a touch screen monitor and bluetooth.
    d) the handling is good but not as good as the civic nor the mazda 3. I think it has to do with it's size. Nice 18" rims though.
    e)speaking of size, this is one big a$$ compact sedan. It reminded me of a fat Mazda6.
    f) tama, it's a cruising car. No gut-wrenching acceleration. Just smooth cruising. That was a let-down for me since that had a sporty theme sedan going very well. Sana di ako ma-dissapoint sa EvoX ko in the long run.
    g)hands down, this will surely outsale the "new" altis. It's better looking, bigger, better equipped and worth your money in terms of the competing brand being around P70k cheaper but comes very short in overall packaging.
    h)I managed the GTS ko get me upto 190kph+. Pretty sure it can go faster but didn't want to push it. Acceleration took awhile though. Great noise insulation. I don't know if it was because of the design or I had the stereo sound too high.

    GET THE COLOR RED!!!

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    #524
    ouch! flames too hot. me got burned.

    and in the defense of tol drey:

    there are some factors that contribute to having inconsistent numbers which include driver related factors, such as a heavy foot.

    cornering: ever tried downshifting or braking at all? i mean, they wouldn't have tuned the suspension in germany if it doesn't handle well.

    acceleration: do you have any idea of how much gadgetry, emission regulating devices and german body/chassis is incorporated in the car which contributes to your claimed hp output? for a euro III car, you should be grateful to even reach those numbers

    safety: 7 airbags, are you kiddin' me? rigidity is vital so much so on motorsports. that's why we have rollcages on rally cars, touring cars even F1's.

    lancer craze?: well, you should see the guys who fell for the ongoing civic when it was launched. atleast, mitsubishi is pretty modest in terms of commercializing here
    Last edited by safeorigin; February 23rd, 2008 at 02:09 PM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #525
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    ouch! flames too hot. me got burned.

    and in the defense of tol drey:

    there are some factors that contribute to having inconsistent numbers which include driver related factors, such as a heavy foot.

    cornering: ever tried downshifting or braking at all? i mean, they wouldn't have tuned the suspension in germany if it doesn't handle well.

    acceleration: do you have any idea of how much gadgetry, emission regulating devices and german body/chassis is incorporated in the car which contributes to your claimed hp output? for a euro III car, you should be grateful to even reach those numbers

    safety: 7 airbags, are you kiddin' me? rigidity is vital so much so on motorsports. that's why we have rollcages on rally cars, touring cars even F1's.

    lancer craze?: well, you should see the guys who fell for the ongoing civic when it was launched. atleast, mitsubishi is pretty modest in terms of commercializing here
    Huh???

    safety: it's SHOULD be that safe considering you're shelling out almost 1.2mil pesos for it. Other cars can be as equally equipped as this lancer the only difference is their marketing strategy. Most sedans nowadays at that price range come with multiple airbags. In the Phils specially we are notorious for having ill-equipped cars considering were paying the same price range tax included among other countries that have all the equipment.

    cornering: yes tried that even lashing the car in reverse hitting the hand brake and pointing it forward. Before the car was handed to us there were some local test drivers who gave us a taste on a vacant factory lot. Even those "test drivers" preferred the civic or mz3. On few occassions when we suddenly brake then accelerate we will feel a small lag na ala turbo lag ang feeling. What do you actually mean when they said the suspsnsion is "tuned." All manufacturers will of course say that specially on their top end model to make it sound more road worthy.

    acceleration: I've seen and driven other cars of the same or smaller displacement which are euro 4 compliant that pack more hp and is either lighter or heavier than the 08 lancer. They now implement a Euro 5-6 standard.

    lancer craze: there's not much hype because there's no ad to be excited about, yet.

    The only thing I can agree w/ you is the fuel economy. Lots of factors there, driving habit, landscape, traffic, w/ a/c on or just open windows.

    Still, this lancer will sell well. All it needs is just one car to be seen on the road passively advertising that the 08 lancer has arrived as in now on sale. At least, on our side, we HAVE driven the lancer.... have you?
    Just a question, no offense on that. If you have driven a lancer, pls add your findings weather it be negative or positive. This is a public forum... being objective or professional doesn't mean that you should ALWAYS point out the positive side and shun or be deaf on the negative.

    There's also a 143hp version for low emission states.

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    #526
    Simple solution to your problems. Just respect the reviews of others. We all have the freedom to say our opinions. Kung gusto ninyo ang lancer, e di gusto ninyo? kung gusto ninyo civic, altis, mazda, focus..fine. Whats with all the fuss defending these cars?

    We all have our own opinions, no need to waste your time on these. Hindi naman tayo kumikita sa pagbenta ng mga ito eh. And at the end of the day, these are all just cars.

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    #527
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    ouch! flames too hot. me got burned.

    and in the defense of tol drey:

    there are some factors that contribute to having inconsistent numbers which include driver related factors, such as a heavy foot.

    cornering: ever tried downshifting or braking at all? i mean, they wouldn't have tuned the suspension in germany if it doesn't handle well.

    acceleration: do you have any idea of how much gadgetry, emission regulating devices and german body/chassis is incorporated in the car which contributes to your claimed hp output? for a euro III car, you should be grateful to even reach those numbers

    safety: 7 airbags, are you kiddin' me? rigidity is vital so much so on motorsports. that's why we have rollcages on rally cars, touring cars even F1's.

    lancer craze?: well, you should see the guys who fell for the ongoing civic when it was launched. atleast, mitsubishi is pretty modest in terms of commercializing here
    Sabi ko wag kanang humirit pa... Talo ka rin naman eh...
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    #528
    Oh and lets see who wins in the end. Im betting it will be a tie between the altis and the civic....

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    #529
    I still love the new Lancer whichever wins. Hahaha!

    I think other peeps here are getting peronal over the topic... haha... i just find it entertaining. Pero bakit ba kasi ang "yabang" ng ibang tao dito... learn to aprreciate nga naman other peeps ideas. ^_^

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    #530
    Drey: I enjoy reading your mitsu blogs... sana ako din makagawa ng blogs gaya nung sayo. Hahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xTrememan View Post
    I still love the new Lancer whichever wins. Hahaha!

    I think other peeps here are getting peronal over the topic... haha... i just find it entertaining. Pero bakit ba kasi ang "yabang" ng ibang tao dito... learn to aprreciate nga naman other peeps ideas. ^_^
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    #532
    Quote Originally Posted by xTrememan View Post
    I still love the new Lancer whichever wins. Hahaha!

    I think other peeps here are getting peronal over the topic... haha... i just find it entertaining. Pero bakit ba kasi ang "yabang" ng ibang tao dito... learn to aprreciate nga naman other peeps ideas. ^_^

    "yabang" sir, better watch out, that's already committing character assassination to whomever individual/s it is directed to. You're talking about "appreciate" others and instead of being neutral you'll add the term "yabang" ng ibang tao.

    If you disagree with the idea then disagree with the POST of the member that's fine but don't attack the member itself. UNLESS you personally know that person, then pls just focus on the Lancer topic and not the person/people who posted it.

    Nwei, I guess it's a wait and see since we couldn't agree and keep shooting down others ideas maski naman di pa naka drive personally ng 08 Lancer.

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    #533
    Guys, it is time to call this discussion a "draw" and let us all keep our personal egos intact. The fact that this threat is supposed to discuss about the 2008 Mitsu Lancer. Let us just put this to everyone has their own style in how they review things, might we like it or not.

    If not, this thread will be closed and other more drastic measures be taken. Flaming is simply not tolerated on this board.

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    #534
    Quote Originally Posted by xTrememan View Post
    Drey: I enjoy reading your mitsu blogs... sana ako din makagawa ng blogs gaya nung sayo. Hahaha!
    hehehe... hirap din mag hakot ng updates... Pero thank you... Meron pa akong new blog, it's about SUV Rally.

    I updated it, Click Here!

    *sir djerms,

    Civic ata eh... Overpriced ang Altis for me...
    Last edited by drey; February 24th, 2008 at 12:33 AM.
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    #535
    Quote Originally Posted by drey View Post

    *sir djerms,

    Civic ata eh... Overpriced ang Altis for me...
    Overpriced nga pero dami pa din loyalists eh...this includes my dad and uncles..hehe. Civic ako.

    BTT: Let's just see overtime kung sino ang mananalo. I really love the 7 airbags of the lancer...if not for the 2.0 engine...its a good buy for me. Para kasing galant na siya para sa akin...kakatakot baka parang galant na din ang fc..hehe.

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    #536
    Di naman siguro... Baka 1.5L nga ang nakakatakot na FC.

    Let's wait for the owner to take a snapshot of his fuel mileage. At least may proof that he is getting 22-24mpgon the city. The Outlander 2.4L can even reach 9 km/l.

    They say the CVT is a let down, more biased sa fuel economy rather than acceleration. But I believe once you give it minor mods and tuning, like a K&N air filter. It should give you good numbers on output and fuel economy. Did you know that a 4B11 can reward you more output given the same mods in a 4G63 engine? I'm still waiting for more results.

    I don't know if my family is considered a loyalist... Our AE8o can still run today if being provided with batteries... Sarap mag restore...
    Last edited by drey; February 24th, 2008 at 09:58 PM.
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    #537
    Quote Originally Posted by AutoMAN View Post
    "yabang" sir, better watch out, that's already committing character assassination to whomever individual/s it is directed to. You're talking about "appreciate" others and instead of being neutral you'll add the term "yabang" ng ibang tao.

    If you disagree with the idea then disagree with the POST of the member that's fine but don't attack the member itself. UNLESS you personally know that person, then pls just focus on the Lancer topic and not the person/people who posted it.

    Nwei, I guess it's a wait and see since we couldn't agree and keep shooting down others ideas maski naman di pa naka drive personally ng 08 Lancer.
    O.K... i got your point... im just on sir drey's side kasi i just read your reply to his post and i think its just like what you've said don't "attack" the member itself.. but it looks like you just did.

    Anyway.. back to the quest for Lancer glory. LOL

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    #538
    com'on guys! mitsu deserves some lovin'! the '08 lancer is already very potent contender against the "reigning" car of the previous year. it's about time the lancer to sit in the throne
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #540
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    com'on guys! mitsu deserves some lovin'! the '08 lancer is already very potent contender against the "reigning" car of the previous year. it's about time the lancer to sit in the throne
    Yeah i agree... hope they release it after the new corolla altis! para matchup na talaga!

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