Fortuner Skyway accident (4 perished)

[badsekktor]

at what speed would the combination of airbags and seatbelt would still be effective?

[oj88]

ok

driving at low speed, hit concrete barrier, roll over and over, passengers ejected from vehicle

driving at low speed, tire blew out, hit concrete barrier, roll over and over, passengers ejected from vehilce

yeah, makes more sense

Dunno if this pertained to my post. Overspeeding, by definition is driving beyond the legal speed limit. 100kph in SLEX/Skyway/SCTEX is not overspeeding. But the point I was trying to arrive at is the inherent flaw on the vehicle's stability. So even if the Fortuner was running 90-100kph (hence, not overspeeding), it's still prone to tip over.

Even its brother, the Hilux, which shares almost all components with the Fortuner, failed the "Moose" or Child Evasion test. The test, I believe is done at 90kph... which is well within the legal speed limit in most of our highways.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZF8N9NItHI"]YouTube- Toyota Hilux fails the Moose test[/ame]

[uls]

Dunno if this pertained to my post. Overspeeding, by definition is driving beyond the legal speed limit. 100kph in SLEX/Skyway/SCTEX is not overspeeding. But the point I was trying to arrive at is the inherent flaw on the vehicle's stability. So even if the Fortuner was running 90-100kph (hence, not overspeeding), it's still prone to tip over.

bottom line -- when you're driving at a speed that will make your SUV tip over when you make a sudden swerve, then it's too fast

[lazyfoot]

Judging from the wreck
1.the fortuner isn't that fast 100KPH on the skyway is just normal (it's even less than half the top speed of most modern cars)
2. The pillars need to be stronger
3. there is a big chance that the rear and middle seat passengers could have survived if they were wearing their safety belts
4. side airbags are useless if the pax in the middle is unbelted

Cathy: if the steering feels heavy, it's actually good, that means that the tyres are still gripping. if you're going fast and the steering feels light and crosswind affects you, then be afraid.
i find white fortuner drivers drive faster than the ones in black, just my opinion.

[oj88]

bottom line -- when you're driving at a speed that will make your SUV tip over when you make a sudden swerve, then it's too fast

That's true. But what is THAT speed? Too bad you won't find the roll-over speed limit indicated on the manual. And it's even more perplexing to Fortuner owners that a similar SUV could've survived the same situation, only because the latter was designed better.

Anyway, it's a given that the Fortuner becomes relatively unstable past a certain speed (I'm guessing 70kph or 80kph?), which I think is too low. The Fortuner is capable of maybe twice that speed or more. Toyota knows this. The least they could do is to add stability assist on these vehicles as standard. Either that or give it a better suspension.

[uls]

speed is relative

depends on the vehicle

let's say 150 kph

150 kph is a walk in the park if you're driving a low wide car with wide sticky tires

150 kph is too fast if you're driving a tall vehicle

in a straight line, both will be ok at that speed

but when you have to swerve suddenly to avoid something, one of them is gonna tip over

it's all about center of gravity

[XTO]

yup, without excessive speed, that 2.7 G fort will not sustain that kind of terrible damage (mainly because of the roll over). burst front tire, miscalculation or any reason prior to the roll over might only be answered by the mom but sadly she died. hopefully those who survived the crash can tell what really happened.

RIP to those died and speedy recovery for the others.

[water]

Sa mga car delearship sa quezon avenue napansin ko malulungkot mga mukha taga toyota.

[_Cathy_]

^Because sales suffered?!?

I think people will still keep on buying Toyotas. Accelerator issue didn't stop loyal Toyota fans from getting me an Altis.

[sm2by]

What if this was the scenario the Mom encountered;
While on the skyway, the Fortuner's gas pedal / accelerator got stuck or the engine itself surged making the SUV speed-up, she tries to stop her SUV before she comes to the end of the Skyway which is the off-ramp back to SLEX. Most likely she burned out her brakes, with no other way to stop she could've pulled her E-brake as a result the Fortuner swerves and rolls over.

My friend from Thailand who works as a Toyota Service Tech, told me the ECU of the 2.7 VVT-i engine of the Fortuner is also the same with the Camry engine being recalled in the US.. but since Toyota keeps saying it just a sticky gas pedal the true causes of sudden acceleration problem might be a corporate secret...