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    Very tragic accident happened today at the SLEX Skyway. I was in deep shock to learn this..

    3 kids, aged 10, 10 & 5 y/o, seated at the back not strapped on their seatbelts died when they were thrown out of the car by the impact of the crash.. And sadly the driver also succumbed to her injuries.. My deepest condolences to their Families..

    RIP.

    http://www.gmanews.tv/video/60272/3-...-road-accident
    Last edited by ghosthunter; May 16th, 2010 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Correction for the location of accident. SLEX and not SCTEX.

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    It's weird that they could readily conclude that the accident was caused by over-speeding. Even when driving within the SCTEX legal speed limit of 80-100kph, almost any tall vehicle has a potential to flip over when mishandled... and Fortuners, for one, are a bit top-heavy.

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    Every parents nightmare... That's why hanggat maaari gusto ko ako magdrive para sa family ko.

    bakit po SCTEX/skyway? di ba papunta ng south ang skyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    It's weird that they could readily conclude that the accident was caused by over-speeding.
    +1.

    There seems to be way more to this crash than what is apparent from the wreckage. It's so, so easy to pin the blame on "speeding" when in reality that's not the actual cause of the crash. I think it's a shoddy job of investigation.

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    ok

    driving at low speed, hit concrete barrier, roll over and over, passengers ejected from vehicle

    driving at low speed, tire blew out, hit concrete barrier, roll over and over, passengers ejected from vehilce

    yeah, makes more sense

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    How fast is fast? In one of the reports they mentioned that the vehicle was probably at 100 kph which in my opinion is not reckless. Skyway tends to be clear on Sundays and I assume that other vehicles were travelling at that speed as well.

    There's just a disconnect for me thinking of a mother or lady driver with children as passengers driving recklessly. I also don't wanna think that they are correct about the stereotype on fortuner drivers (black at that).

    It's so offensive how the police would make hasty statements without even conducting a thorough investigation.
    Last edited by _Cathy_; May 19th, 2010 at 01:26 PM.

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    people are looking for another cause coz it's too horrible to accept

    it's the familiarity

    a Fortuner, a lady, small kids -- dami dito naka Fortuner, meron wife, small kids

    and it's coz of the proximity -- skyway lang

    many of us use the skyway

    if this happened somewhere in Tawi Tawi, we wouldnt see emotional outbursts like this

    BTW, why dont we see reactions like this pag may namatay sa motorbike accident?

    coz they deserve it?

    galit kasi mga car users sa mga naka motor?

    pero pag naka fortuner, all of a sudden, coz we can identify with it, we can empathize, we get all emotional?
    Last edited by uls; May 19th, 2010 at 01:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    How fast is fast? In one of the reports they mentioned that the vehicle was probably at 100 kph which in my opinion is not reckless. Skyway tends to be clear on Sundays and I assume that other vehicles were travelling at that speed as well.
    You have to consider that a Fortuner weighs more than a Corolla. So at the same speed (example 100 kph), the Fortuner will still have more kinetic energy than the Corolla.


    It's so offensive how the police would make hasty statements without even conducting a thorough investigation.
    The police do not care what is the truth as long as they have something to say to the media/press regarding to the accident's cause. The truth is the local police have no technical expertise nor training to evaluate a vehicle accident properly to find it's actual cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ok

    driving at low speed, hit concrete barrier, roll over and over, passengers ejected from vehicle

    driving at low speed, tire blew out, hit concrete barrier, roll over and over, passengers ejected from vehilce

    yeah, makes more sense
    Dunno if this pertained to my post. Overspeeding, by definition is driving beyond the legal speed limit. 100kph in SLEX/Skyway/SCTEX is not overspeeding. But the point I was trying to arrive at is the inherent flaw on the vehicle's stability. So even if the Fortuner was running 90-100kph (hence, not overspeeding), it's still prone to tip over.

    Even its brother, the Hilux, which shares almost all components with the Fortuner, failed the "Moose" or Child Evasion test. The test, I believe is done at 90kph... which is well within the legal speed limit in most of our highways.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZF8N9NItHI"]YouTube- Toyota Hilux fails the Moose test[/ame]

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    Dunno if this pertained to my post. Overspeeding, by definition is driving beyond the legal speed limit. 100kph in SLEX/Skyway/SCTEX is not overspeeding. But the point I was trying to arrive at is the inherent flaw on the vehicle's stability. So even if the Fortuner was running 90-100kph (hence, not overspeeding), it's still prone to tip over.
    bottom line -- when you're driving at a speed that will make your SUV tip over when you make a sudden swerve, then it's too fast

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    sa SLEX po sya actually......sa may bandang parañaque...

    kawawa nga naman, walang nakasurvive...
    Last edited by prince777; May 16th, 2010 at 09:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prince777 View Post
    sa SLEX po sya actually......sa may bandang parañaque...

    kawawa nga naman, walang nakasurvive...
    Nagkamali pala ako diyan sa SLEX Skyway pala instead of SCTEX. Dalawa kase iyung nabasa ko na accidents. sa SCTEX and SLEX.

    May mga survivors ata mga adults something like four or five.

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    Ouch.

    Kawawa ang mga kids. Tsk tsk tsk.

    Malamang hataw ng hataw yan, mom not thinking that he has 3 kids on board.

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    My friend also told me about this around 2PM, good thing the bus she was riding stopped or else something more happened.

    Tsk, please drive carefully, Powerful vehicle + Loss of control = Accident.

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    The kids may have been playing inside enough to cause the driver to lose concentration. Madalas din ang makita ng forts with crushed roofs...





    Last edited by Monseratto; May 16th, 2010 at 10:43 PM.

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    Rollover prone talaga mga cars like Fortuner. Truck base, high ground clerance tapos medyo payat... They could have survived kung meron curtain airbags...

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    everybody onboard died 3 children included.

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ps-over-Skyway

    4 killed as SUV flips over Skyway
    By Miko Morelos
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 16:06:00 05/16/2010

    MANILA, Philippines – (UPDATE) Three children and a driver were killed when a speeding sports utility vehicle flipped over along the Skyway near Sun Valley in Parañaque city, the Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) said on Sunday.
    Radio operator Virgilio Dupaya said the Toyota Fortuner (license plate ZMU-898) could have been running over the speed limit in the Skyway when it flipped over around 2 p.m. Sunday.
    “It could have been going at over 100 kilometers per hour,” the radio operator told the Philippine Inquirer in a phone interview.
    Killed from the accident include Cheryl Joy Rondon, 10; Shelimar Rakiin, 5; and Daryl Lopez, 10; were killed instantly while the 35-year-old driver, Sehawi Rakiin (not Marilyn as earlier reported), died while undergoing treatment at the Parañaque Doctors Hospital.
    Dupaya added that based on their initial investigation, the driver might have lost control of the vehicle, causing her to crash into the road barrier. He said there were no other vehicles in the area at that time.
    Ed Nepomuceno, Somco operations manager, said that after the SUV hit the barrier, it flipped over several times before coming to a rest upside down, nearly 100 meters away from the site of impact.
    He added that one of the vehicle’s tires was busted, which might have triggered the accident.
    Nepomuceno also said they were checking if the victim’s car was in a convoy with another vehicle. The victims were reportedly on their way to a theme park in Laguna when their vehicle hit the road barrier.

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    very sad news.

    lets all be careful when driving our vehicles especially when kids are on board.

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    kawawa naman mga bata... may they rest in peace...

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    SUV drivers tend to feel totally safe and invincible

    big vehicle, high ground clearance, see everything

    nakakalimutan yata nila SUVs cannot take corners and curves as fast as a sedan

    ayan... taob

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